'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[Irish Insanity]

Wingman should be banned.

I approve this message

 

[NDShark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

Would love GT to get him so ND can kick his overrated ass all over the field.

This guy is a friggin joke. This kid is the definition of me first. Just the arrogance that everyone will wait around with bells on for when he decides he wants to grace a school with his presence.

Hope whatever school he commits to he never gets off scout team.

Not sure how to embed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

 

[pkt77242]

Would love GT to get him so ND can kick his overrated ass all over the field.

This guy is a friggin joke. This kid is the definition of me first. Just the arrogance that everyone will wait around with bells on for when he decides he wants to grace a school with his presence.

Hope whatever school he commits to he never gets off scout team.

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[pkt77242]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

Not sure how to embed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

I took care of it for you.

 

[NDShark]

I took care of it for you.

What is this sorcery!?

 

[pkt77242]

What is this sorcery!?

If you go to youtube and click the share button it pulls up a menu across the first one is share and then next to it is embed, if you click embed it then shows the code that you need to copy and paste to embed the video. Now go and try it.

 

[BeauBenken]

Going to temporarily close the thread until at least discussing it with the other mods. Posters are simply getting way too emotionally involved right now.

 

[Irish#1]

Going to temporarily close the thread until at least discussing it with the other mods. Posters are simply getting way too emotionally involved right now.

Wingman Ray makes one of his foolish statements and you want to close it? Ban him but closing the thread is foolish.

 

[koonja]

Every team should write this guy off, and the one team that gets him will get a nice surprise. No real other way to look at this IMO/

 

[IrishGlory]

In all fairness to this kid, it's his life, his decision. I can relate in that when I was about to join the Marines, I was shipped to MEP in Richmond, VA and when it came time to put that ink on the paper, I could not do it and decided not to sign my contract at that time. They gave me a bus ticket back home to rethink my options. 30 days later, I stood on the yellow footprints on Parris Island and I have no regrets whatsoever.

I don't think this kid has a case of the "T.O.'s", he is just weighing his options and trying to do what's best for him. Can't hate on that at all.

 

[greyhammer90]

Wingman Ray makes one of his foolish statements and you want to close it? Ban him but closing the thread is foolish.

He's one of the worst posters on the site. As soon as there's a hint of drama in a recruitment he consistently bashes recruits and takes it way over the line calling them "stupid" and "selfish" and "idiot". I'm actually kind of amazed he's been allowed to last this long. People like that usually get shown the door fairly quickly around here.

 

[Blaise]

Glad we aren't grounded from this thread anymore... Felt like a 6 year old in time out...

I am surprised people get so angry with this kid because he is taking his time. No one says you have to sign by NSD... Unless ND tells him no thanks, he will have a spot here if he wants it.. Let him make up his mind. If he comes here I want him to be 100% certain and not regretting it in July

 

[BeauBenken]

Wingman Ray makes one of his foolish statements and you want to close it? Ban him but closing the thread is foolish.

The thread was closed for less than 24 hours, and if you really think that he's the only one who has been acting foolish, you're wrong. There has been little to no actual news or appropriate discussion in this thread.

 

[Luckylucci]

The thread was closed for less than 24 hours, and if you really think that he's the only one who has been acting foolish, you're wrong. There has been little to no actual news or appropriate discussion in this thread.

I support Beau's decision. Nothing has happened in the last 24 hours that was news worthy. So, IE members shouldn't feel like they "missed out". It was solid precautionary measure to ensure it didn't get out of hand and allowed the mods time to discuss further.

 

[koonja]

Personally feel this thread should have live chat but whatevs.

 

[NDty9]

Looked like he had an AMAZING time at Bama this weekend (based on Snapchat)

He was showing a lot of love to Bama (obviously he would while there), but took the campus tour, did some clubbing, and stopped by Saban's house to have some dinner and celebrate D Robs birthday. Some of the cars in Saban's garage were INSANEEEEE... D Rob DEFINITELY LOOKED IMPRESSED!

I know that's not any ground breaking news or anything, just figured I'd share when I saw

 

[dad4aa]

Has anyone confirmed whether or not our coaches can visit again? I know there is a limit for contact but does that "reset" or become a non-issue after NSD?

 

[Luckylucci]

A few bullets from aRivals update on Saturday. Nothing earth shattering and more of what we already know. This is from Andrew Ivins who spoke to Michael, Drob's brother, while in Orlando at an RCS event with this son.

- Took the Bama visit because his mother wants him to see what is out there while they wait on Stanford.

-Stanford is #1 with ND #2 Bama, UGA, etc. trail.

-They were set to decide after his last SAT scores came back but Stanford is pushing for him to keep taking them. So, that's why he's retaking them on March 5th. Will have those back in the beginning of May.

-Won't sign LOI and do the FAA paperwork and enroll at the school of his choice in June.

- Though he has interest in running track at the next level, that won't be factored into the decision.

FWIW, LOI deadline is April 1st.

 

[woolybug25]

April Fool's Day... The Irony...

 

[gkIrish]

Embarrassed for Stanford. The depths they are going to string a kid along knowing full well that he isn't getting admitted is truly disgusting. Shame on them.

 

[Rocket89]

Has anyone confirmed whether or not our coaches can visit again? I know there is a limit for contact but does that "reset" or become a non-issue after NSD?

Quiet period until April 15th. No off-campus contact allowed, phone/text/social media contact allowed. Prospects can visit campus.

Evaluation period from April 15 until June 1st. Coaches can make 2 visits to the prospects school (academic and athletic evaluation) but no in-person contact allowed off-campus. Phone/text/social media contact allowed, and prospects can visit campus.

 

[stlnd01]

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-They were set to decide after his last SAT scores came back but Stanford is pushing for him to keep taking them. So, that's why he's retaking them on March 5th. Will have those back in the beginning of May.
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This right here. Ick. And - assuming that his scores are legitimately good enough for Notre Dame but not quite Stanford material and all else checks out - they should just admit the kid if they want him that bad. Standardized test scores aren't that important.
I usually have a lot of respect for Stanford but the way they're handling this one just seems wrong.

 

[johnnycando]

Embarrassed for Stanford. The depths they are going to string a kid along knowing full well that he isn't getting admitted is truly disgusting. Shame on them.

They've already kept him from being Irish.

So I mean they did well. Well played.

 

[IrishLax]

Embarrassed for Stanford. The depths they are going to string a kid along knowing full well that he isn't getting admitted is truly disgusting. Shame on them.

Or they're planning on moving heaven and earth to make an exception no matter what he scores on the next go around.

Or they really think there's a chance that with the massive format change that maybe he has some sort of big jump.

But like... this whole process is so out of character for them, it's hard to really make any sort of read on it except for that it's sad.

 

[irish4ever]

They've already kept him from being Irish.

So I mean they did well. Well played.

Yep. He gone! Oh well, next ....

 

[IrishLion]

April Fool's Day... The Irony...

I'm actually very interested in the LOI deadline.

If he goes past April Fool's Day, he can't sign a Letter of Intent. At that point, it's just financial aid paperwork, granting him his scholarship rights.

But without the LOI, he would then be able to transfer to any school he wants, without penalty, if he decided he didn't like the choice he made after a season. So basically, if it goes past April 1st, the schools still recruiting him are officially signing up for an unrestricted flight risk*. If he chooses ND and decides he doesn't like to play school, he can skedaddle to wherever he wants, and ND will really have to pull some sh*t to try and restrict the transfer.

This whole situation is/could be amazingly strange.



*By unrestricted flight risk, I mean that he could go to any school he wants, and the school he originally chooses wouldn't be able to do anything to block him. He would still have to sit out a season, I believe.

 

[Irishcop]

I'm actually very interested in the LOI deadline.

If he goes past April Fool's Day, he can't sign a Letter of Intent. At that point, it's just financial aid paperwork, granting him his scholarship rights.

But without the LOI, he would then be able to transfer to any school he wants, without penalty, if he decided he didn't like the choice he made after a season. So basically, if it goes past April 1st, the schools still recruiting him are officially signing up for an unrestricted flight risk*. If he chooses ND and decides he doesn't like to play school, he can skedaddle to wherever he wants, and ND will really have to pull some sh*t to try and restrict the transfer.

This whole situation is/could be amazingly strange.



*By unrestricted flight risk, I mean that he could go to any school he wants, and the school he originally chooses wouldn't be able to do anything to block him. He would still have to sit out a season, I believe.

Well after reading this I'm surprised that more kids don't wait until after April 1st.

 

[NDRock]

I'm actually very interested in the LOI deadline.

If he goes past April Fool's Day, he can't sign a Letter of Intent. At that point, it's just financial aid paperwork, granting him his scholarship rights.

But without the LOI, he would then be able to transfer to any school he wants, without penalty, if he decided he didn't like the choice he made after a season. So basically, if it goes past April 1st, the schools still recruiting him are officially signing up for an unrestricted flight risk*. If he chooses ND and decides he doesn't like to play school, he can skedaddle to wherever he wants, and ND will really have to pull some sh*t to try and restrict the transfer.

This whole situation is/could be amazingly strange.



*By unrestricted flight risk, I mean that he could go to any school he wants, and the school he originally chooses wouldn't be able to do anything to block him. He would still have to sit out a season, I believe.

Is that really how it works? Is it the LOI what binds you? I thought that these scholarships are technically one year renewable deals. If so, why would a player have to sit out once he transfers past his freshman year (and the LOI "wears off")? Does the LOI bind you for your whole 5 years? If so, why would anybody sign one?

 

[IrishLion]

Well after reading this I'm surprised that more kids don't wait until after April 1st.

Is that really how it works? Is it the LOI what binds you? I thought that these scholarships are technically one year renewable deals. If so, why would a player have to sit out once he transfers past his freshman year (and the LOI "wears off")? Does the LOI bind you for your whole 5 years? If so, why would anybody sign one?

That's my understanding. Most schools won't accept commitments from kids that don't want to sign LOI's, because they don't want to accept the risk of taking a kid that can leave at any time, and there would be nothing the school could do about it.

Scholarships are one-year renewable (though most places do 4-year deals now), but that, again, is financial aid paperwork stuff. The LOI is what binds a player to a school, specifically, and is effective until that player graduates. I think.

(I may be completely wrong, but this is how I understand the difference between FA papers and the LOI. Both things are generally needed, because one provides the SA with what they need, and the other protects the interests of the school. A two-way street.)

 

[Rocket89]

That's my understanding. Most schools won't accept commitments from kids that don't want to sign LOI's, because they don't want to accept the risk of taking a kid that can leave at any time, and there would be nothing the school could do about it.

Scholarships are one-year renewable (though most places do 4-year deals now), but that, again, is financial aid paperwork stuff. The LOI is what binds a player to a school, specifically, and is effective until that player graduates. I think.

(I may be completely wrong, but this is how I understand the difference between FA papers and the LOI. Both things are generally needed, because one provides the SA with what they need, and the other protects the interests of the school. A two-way street.)

I'm fairly positive that's not how it works. Once you enroll and beginning taking classes under a scholarship you're bound to the rules just like every other player.

The grant-in-aid paperwork just extends your decision making process, with the ability to "switch" schools, until you begin taking classes. The same holds true for kids who are enrolling early and signing GIA paperwork in the fall.

What I find interesting is how trendy it's becoming among the media to applaud the decisions by Robertson and (last year) Roquan Smith to not sign their LOI and wait until summer to decide, even though Smith had already decided in all but signature form.

It's being framed as "revolutionary" and people are asking why more kids don't do this. I think the media gets off a little bit by criticizing the LOI (fair to a point) but especially seeing these kids "empowered" by doing things "on their own timeline."

The truth is most of the elite kids have been recruited heavily for 2 to 3 years and fully ready to make a decision by NSD. People like to compare this to regular students who have a few more months to decide but the majority of them didnt start the process at such a young age or take a bunch of free visits either.

Plus, Smith got spooked when a UCLA coach left on NSD and Robertson has been going through a convoluted/mysterious/questionable admissions process with Stanford. I mean, that's cool that they want to wait and everything but it's hardly a noble cause bringing tears to my eyes. Even with the recruiting media they will move on to the next class no matter what. I suppose you could say they might be getting more clicks out of a Robertson situation but a tiredness sets in eventually. Both media and kids are usually exhausted with the process by NSD.