Nissan removes Navy QB Keenan Reynolds from voting

[Irish YJ]

sad stuff...
voted..
check out the twitter page.... blowing up about it...
https://twitter.com/search?q=#heismanhouse

 

[Buster Bluth]

What's the big deal? His candidacy was a gimmick to begin with and after the Houston loss it'd be a joke to let it continue.

Him leading in the polls is like when Bernie Sanders leads internet polls when people ask "who won the debate?"

People want him to win because he's in the Navy. He didn't have the best year in football though, not even close.

He's an awesome guy and I'm a fan, but he's not Heisman material.

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[Irish#1]

It sounds a lot like you're confusing the criteria for the awards. Don't forget we have a Heisman winner from a 2-8 team. The Maxwell is the best player. The Heisman best exemplifies excellence with integrity. You haven't really explained why you think he doesn't meet the Heisman criteria.

Reynolds is not the best player. That is irrelevant. The fact that he led his team to an historical season while breaking various Navy and NCAA records makes him a truly outstanding player, and the Academy standards for integrity are without peer.

I thought they changed the wording a few years ago to remove integrity or some phrase to that effect after Manziel won because of the criticism they took.

 

[JughedJones]

You're honestly asking the resident Communist why he would be against a kid from NAVY?

That's not fair Moose. I'm a lot more hawkish than you might think.

 

[RDU Irish]

Heisman has been a joke with Winston and Manzeil taking the hardware. Good opportunity to improve the image by at least recognizing Reynolds with an invite to NYC. Everyone would understand if he didn't win, but to pull this BS is bassackwards. If you are going to suppress the ballot - don't ask the public to vote, especially via online ballots that any grade school hacker can probably manipulate.

Viva Fidel!

 

[RDU Irish]

and their stupid site isn't working for me now. Nissan's are for commies.

 

[Henges24]

What's the big deal? His candidacy was a gimmick to begin with and after the Houston loss it'd be a joke to let it continue.

Him leading in the polls is like when Bernie Sanders leads internet polls when people ask "who won the debate?"

People want him to win because he's in the Navy. He didn't have the best year in football though, not even close.

He's an awesome guy and I'm a fan, but he's not Heisman material.

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Doesn't matter. He was the fan favorite and the People's choice vote. A vote that barely means anything. You don't dump the leader of the People's vote like that. It doesn't matter if he plays for Navy or Virginia or UNC.

 

[IrishLax]

What's the big deal? His candidacy was a gimmick to begin with and after the Houston loss it'd be a joke to let it continue.

Him leading in the polls is like when Bernie Sanders leads internet polls when people ask "who won the debate?"

People want him to win because he's in the Navy. He didn't have the best year in football though, not even close.

He's an awesome guy and I'm a fan, but he's not Heisman material.

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Reynolds is much more deserving than either McCaffrey (who also plays for a 2-loss team, and his numbers are worse than many other backs but he piles up "all-purpose" yardage on a bunch of 20 yard returns from his goal line) or Baker Mayfield.

 

[JughedJones]

and their stupid site isn't working for me now. Nissan's are for commies.

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Nissan kicks ass.

 

[Irish YJ]

What's the big deal? His candidacy was a gimmick to begin with and after the Houston loss it'd be a joke to let it continue.

Him leading in the polls is like when Bernie Sanders leads internet polls when people ask "who won the debate?"

People want him to win because he's in the Navy. He didn't have the best year in football though, not even close.

He's an awesome guy and I'm a fan, but he's not Heisman material.

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smh... it's a fan vote that really doesn't mean diddly, but nonetheless it's a fan vote and he was leading. More deserving to be on there than a certain guy from Stanford with 2 losses and inflated all purpose yards...

 

[RDU Irish]

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Nissan kicks ass.

So did Ivan Drago, pinko.

 

[JughedJones]

So did Ivan Drago, pinko.

You must lose... a half a second off your lap.

 

[Buster Bluth]

smh... it's a fan vote that really doesn't mean diddly

Exactly. Hence the "what's the big deal?"

You guys might as well announce to the word that you've been triggered by this microaggression and start painting protest signs.

 

[JughedJones]

Exactly. Hence the "what's the big deal?"

You guys might as well announce to the word that you've been triggered by this microaggression and start painting protest signs.

"Announce to the Word"

This should be Public Enemy's new track.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Voted. Where did you see the percentages?

 

[ColinKSU]

Eh, I don't really care. He's not *going* to win the Heisman, nor should he win the Heisman. If he wasn't specifically Navy's QB and, thus, "Murica," no one would care about his career resume.

 

[RDU Irish]

Career TD leader = "meh"

Send him to NYC and highlight his career and commitment. If he finishes 10th in the voting so be it but at least you recognize who the fans want to see there.

 

[JughedJones]

Career TD leader = "meh"

Send him to NYC and highlight his career and commitment. If he finishes 10th in the voting so be it but at least you recognize who the fans want to see there.

Exactly.

Him being a 'serious' contender would only cheapen military service. If he gets to New York, it's only because....


whatever.

 

[dad4aa]

Disagree. It's not a stats award. That's kind of the Maxwell. It's the player who "best exemplifies the pursuit of excellence with integrity." Keenan Reynolds basically fits that to a T.

Unfortunately, the concept of this requirement being important flew out the window the day Manziel won and was solidified gone when Winston won. It may be in print, but there is no way it is taken into consideration.

 

[MNIrishman]

Exactly. Hence the "what's the big deal?"

You guys might as well announce to the word that you've been triggered by this microaggression and start painting protest signs.

I'd be grateful for some media heat. The guy was leading their free publicity gimmick and they took him off. The entire Naval academy has been voting for him every day. Probably not hackers. His candidacy is not some joke and I don't know why you think that. He has more touchdowns this season than Zeke Elliott or Dalvin Cook. Are their candidacies jokes too?

 

[IrishLax]

Reynolds is the MVP of a ranked team and has been more consistently productive/impressive than at least one of the likely finalists. Simply removing him from a contest where the vote does count is BS.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I voted for Reynolds; not because he plays for Navy [I actually dislike Navy football as a {for my tastes} dirty team], but because, as a rather radical American in many ways, I hate the "business" manipulation of freedom of choice. ... plus I don't mind standing up for the "moral integrity" statement which now too infrequently is messaged in sports. Others apparently will feel free to ignore that as important enough to stand up for --- but for me it's similar to what Notre Dame tries to stand up for and that is too ingrained a value for me to discard.

 

[gkIrish]

It's not Nissan's job to decide if he is worthy or not. And if the fans think he is worthy then they owe it to him and the fans to keep him on the ballot.

 

[NDdomer2]

I voted for Reynolds; not because he plays for Navy [I actually dislike Navy football as a {for my tastes} dirty team], but because, as a rather radical American in many ways, I hate the "business" manipulation of freedom of choice. ... plus I don't mind standing up for the "moral integrity" statement which now too infrequently is messaged in sports. Others apparently will feel free to ignore that as important enough to stand up for --- but for me it's similar to what Notre Dame tries to stand up for and that is too ingrained a value for me to discard.

so micro-aggro

This post should say all there is to say, no painted signs needed.

 

[greyhammer90]

It's not Nissan's job to decide if he is worthy or not. And if the fans think he is worthy then they owe it to him and the fans to keep him on the ballot.

This is correct. It's a people's poll, he was leading, and they removed him. That's dumb.

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

Just voted for him via write in. Checked the leaderboard and he's at 37%. Forgot who was second, but they were 23%. Should still be a landslide.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Reynolds is the MVP of a ranked team and has been more consistently productive/impressive than at least one of the likely finalists. Simply removing him from a contest where the vote does count is BS.

Well of course hes consistent, he's the QB of a triple option team. The offense runs through him and they've had a great year. But at the same time, he's rushed for 1093 yards this year. For comparison Newton had 1473 in 2010 and Manziel had 1410 in 2012...to go along with their passing successes.

Navy has played one P5 team all season and they lost. Where is his Heisman moment? He didn't dominate Notre Dame, Memphis, or Houston. They went 1-2 against them too.

There's an argument to make if Navy is 13-0 and AAC champions. But Reynolds just doesn't deserve to be in the Heisman discussion anymore.

 

[MNIrishman]

Well of course hes consistent, he's the QB of a triple option team. The offense runs through him and they've had a great year. But at the same time, he's rushed for 1093 yards this year. For comparison Newton had 1473 in 2010 and Manziel had 1410 in 2012...to go along with their passing successes.

Navy has played one P5 team all season and they lost. Where is his Heisman moment? He didn't dominate Notre Dame, Memphis, or Houston. They went 1-2 against them too.

There's an argument to make if Navy is 13-0 and AAC champions. But Reynolds just doesn't deserve to be in the Heisman discussion anymore.

It's no more a moment award than it is a lifetime achievement award. Team record is also not a criterion.

Unlike Manziel and Newton, he doesn't have character issues. He also didn't wilt like a flower against a lot of his toughest competition.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Only three names eventually end up on each Heisman ballot anyway iirc. Nothing against Reynolds as he has been a great representative of his team and his willingness to serve in the armed services is commendable. But he isn't one of the top players in the race. That's not an insult to him... that's just the truth.

With that said, I think Nissan was wrong for pulling his name. I also think the Heisman has been a joke for a long time now. Not since JFF and Winston. It started years ago for me when ESPN basically started an all out PR campaign to give C. Woodson the Heisman over Peyton Manning. While Woodson was a great player and even better pro, Manning should have won the Heisman. From then on, I haven't really had much interest at all in who wins the award. And I hated Tenn and Manning then but he got the shaft IMO thanks in a large part to ESPN.

 

[IrishinSyria]

i think this is why the folks than run the heisman removed him when they did. It kinda looked silly to have him up there when his team had been manhandled in their biggest game.

The Heisman candidates this year:
Fornette: did next to nothing in a game vs his biggest rival - not challenging for top 4
Mayfield: made the Texas D look like the 85 Bears, scored points on terrible Big12 defenses.
Watson: Good player on a great time but hardly putting up huge numbers
Dalvin Cook: good RB on mediocre team - not challenging for top 4

Cook is a legitimate Heisman player. If Heisman were actually an individual award, he should be the frontrunner.