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Grahambo

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Sure, I can go along with that. But, the fact that things moved quickly is certainly not proof that a bunch of disinterested people jumped on the bandwagon either. If people say they have experienced racism, why should we automatically discount what they say? It seems a little dismissive to me that the initial reaction to a complaint is 'entitled brats, lemmings, BS faux cause." If nothing else that reaction just re-enforces their complaint, IMHO.

There have been enough instances in the past where those who have cried wolf have been proven wrong; not too long ago the professor from North Texas. That's not to say they are lying when they say racism has occurred. What a lot of us have asked for is proof or some sort of verification to back a story up. We ask cops to provide facts so why not ask this group for facts? My point is that its not dismissive to ask for proof. And with the way things are going over there currently, to me, that only adds to the suspicion.
 

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Missouri Tigers player says team not united over practice boycott

A Missouri Tigers player said Sunday night that the entire team is not united over the decision to stop practicing until grad student Jonathan Butler ends his hunger strike.

"As much as we want to say everyone is united, half the team and coaches -- black and white -- are pissed," the player, who wished to remain anonymous, told ESPN. "If we were 9-0, this wouldn't be happening."
 

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Take this with grains of salt if you want due to source/viewpoint, but it does include some other incidents/information leading up to the hunger strike and stuff that followed. I present it to thee board for that basis only.

Black University of Missouri Students Had Some Good Reasons to Be Upset and Also Some Bogus Ones - Breitbart

If that summary is accurate and there is nothing else to it, I honestly don't know how someone can defend what happened to Wolfe and this whole situation in general.
 

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Say you are working to bring two entrenched sides towards a mutual beneficial goal to develop a policy. Similar to the Pope's negotiations with the U.S. and Cuba. You accept that each side has its extremists who have their strident declarations. But you also know that they are outnumbered by those on both sides who do not want to through the baby out with the bathwater.

You're goals are to work with both to develop a policy and procedures to reflect those values - like Notre Dame has with its Diversity and Inclusion program. You accept that a small, vocal group will insist on nothing else but their way of thinking and would rather shut down your organization than to compromise. Those with extreme statements will fall by the wayside because they are not interested in any dialogue.

Creating an environment for appreciating others experiences is integral to a university's mission.
 
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Honest question and maybe it's been posed already but if the Mizzou President was African American would this have went down the same way?
 

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If that summary is accurate and there is nothing else to it, I honestly don't know how someone can defend what happened to Wolfe and this whole situation in general.

I'd prefer to read a summary that isn't from Breitbart though.
 

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Fragile Snowflakes or Manipulative Narcissists? | Intellectual Takeout

The article by Dr. Gray goes on to argue that many of these problems may have their roots in poor parenting, particularly helicopter parenting.

Helicopter parenting, of course, refers to those parents who are active in nearly every part of their children’s lives. When anything appears to go wrong, they swoop in to help. Everything is about the success of the child, through which the parent seems to live vicariously.

Interestingly, these kids often demand the world change to meet their needs. Didn’t do well on a test? Change the grade or I might threaten suicide. That idea made me uncomfortable? Make me safe or I’ll get you fired.
 

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I'd prefer to read a summary that isn't from Breitbart though.

Thus the reason I prefaced it with the link. Because I know the slant of the site. However, that being said, just because it is on their site does not mean it is inaccurate.
 

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Thus the reason I prefaced it with the link. Because I know the slant of the site. However, that being said, just because it is on their site does not mean it is inaccurate.

Of course. Your presentation was fair. I'd just like to see a non-partisan source's rundown.
 

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Of course. Your presentation was fair. I'd just like to see a non-partisan source's rundown.


In today's world? Good luck on the non-partisan part. I for one am more of a cynic and expect to find reports from both sides (politically speaking) and see where they agree.
 

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In today's world? Good luck on the non-partisan part. I for one am more of a cynic and expect to find reports from both sides (politically speaking) and see where they agree.

You can always go to CNBC....
 

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So the hunger strike hero comes from a family worth $20 million according to Clay Travis. I can see a White House invite soon for this young man.
 

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Money only makes people evil when someone else has it.... dems the rules
 

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Fragile Snowflakes or Manipulative Narcissists? | Intellectual Takeout

The article by Dr. Gray goes on to argue that many of these problems may have their roots in poor parenting, particularly helicopter parenting.

Helicopter parenting, of course, refers to those parents who are active in nearly every part of their children’s lives. When anything appears to go wrong, they swoop in to help. Everything is about the success of the child, through which the parent seems to live vicariously.

Interestingly, these kids often demand the world change to meet their needs. Didn’t do well on a test? Change the grade or I might threaten suicide. That idea made me uncomfortable? Make me safe or I’ll get you fired.

It would be shocking to me if helicopter parenting is the "problem" with the Mizzou football team.
 

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Random thought... if an American with a family worth $20 million and ample access to food going on a "hunger strike" isn't flaunting privilege then I don't know what is.
 

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Random thought... if an American with a family worth $20 million and ample access to food going on a "hunger strike" isn't flaunting privilege then I don't know what is.
In the name of all the socio-economic injustices he suffers, no less.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">University of Missouri Assistant Professor Melissa Click issues apology <a href="https://t.co/fGVCA3riFC">pic.twitter.com/fGVCA3riFC</a></p>— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/664224879722524672">November 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Yeah. They need to fire [her]...
 
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I have not seen anyone bring up the point that the hunger strike guy has been a student on the campus since........2008! If it is such a racist campus and he feared for his safety, why is he still there or why has he not complained before now. #Nocredibility

Also he must be an awful student with only one degree in 8 years. Should have a wall full by now. I wondered how he could afford the cost of college for so long, but I guess coming from a family with $20 mil explains that.
 
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