Breaking (Lawsuit Against ND)

[loomis41973]

Where was all this easy ass when I was in school? Hell I'd have $100 in dinner,a movie, and a case of Natty Ice just to get have a coin flips shot at snagging tail.

Im guessing you don't have a bbc.:stickoutt

These Gingers are almost always freaks.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Where was all this easy ass when I was in school? Hell I'd have $100 in dinner,a movie, and a case of Natty Ice just to get have a coin flips shot at snagging tail.

Sounds like to me.... you were the problem. Not the date.

 

[irishnd31]

Sounds like to me.... you were the problem. Not the date.

I had a plan. I executed the plan. The plan had flaws.

 

[irishnd31]

Im guessing you don't have a bbc.:stickoutt

These Gingers are almost always freaks.

Lmao. I do not. But I sure do give it my all.

 

[Booslum31]

Where was all this easy ass when I was in school? Hell I'd have $100 in dinner,a movie, and a case of Natty Ice just to get have a coin flips shot at snagging tail.

Sould have gone to the Glow Worm or the Torch...just sayin'.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I had a plan. I executed the plan. The plan had flaws.

Be up front with them beforehand. If they are going to eat off the ****ing side of the menu, they are gonna give it up when you get back home. If they don't agree, then execute Plan B - excuse yourself to go to the bathroom and exit out the back door.

 

[irishnd31]

Sould have gone to the Glow Worm or the Torch...just sayin'.

Hell. I'd just get a running start and hope for the best. Like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.

 

[loomis41973]

The internet never forgets.

 

[Henges24]

I won't name the woman employee in question, but the SBT article I linked to earlier in this thread basically tells you how to find it.

Okay so we get the employees name and then we get the daughters name..

IE detectives where you at?

 

[irishnd31]

Be up front with them beforehand. If they are going to eat off the ****ing side of the menu, they are gonna give it up when you get back home. If they don't agree, then execute Plan B - excuse yourself to go to the bathroom and exit out the back door.

Damnit I got some class. If they say no, I grow a tail and leave the thing unflushed in the bowl (after removing the guts from the tank). Then I climb out the window. I'm not a savage.

 

[phgreek]

Just because you get accepted to a great school, that makes you immune to falling behind the pack and needing assistance?

not accepted...invited. Look the kid was on an academic scholarship. Thats not like some kid who "got in". Unless someone somewhere changed what it meant to get an academic scholarship to a prestigious university. Those kids rarely fuck up...

That said. Total speculation here...but, If he did fuck up, he would be more desperate than someone who "got in", 1) as I presume the academic requirements to stay on scholarship are higher than those for merely staying in school. 2) He couldn't just pay his way and take on the lower standard.

This would paint a completely different picture regarding how believable he was/is.

 

[loomis41973]

Okay so we get the employees name and then we get the daughters name..

IE detectives where you at?

Pretty easy to find

 

[BeauBenken]

I understand it is really pretty easy for anyone to find the attorney's name, phone number, etc. but let's not post his info here publicly. Don't want IE to look like we are promoting harassment, dudes.

 

[loomis41973]

I understand it is really pretty easy for anyone to find the attorney's name, phone number, etc. but let's not post his info here publicly. Don't want IE to look like we are promoting harassment, dudes.

Who cares about the attorney...they are damn near promoting the name on some news stations locally. He was interviewed on camera today and was well know before that.

The mom and daughter are easily found as well...

 

[Irish YJ]

I understand it is really pretty easy for anyone to find the attorney's name, phone number, etc. but let's not post his info here publicly. Don't want IE to look like we are promoting harassment, dudes.

yup.
hell, who cares about these asshats anyway. I'd rather see pics of the academic coach and her daughter.... I think it might explain some things.. lol

 

[loomis41973]

google

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[BobbyMac]

not accepted...invited. Look the kid was on an academic scholarship. Thats not like some kid who "got in". Unless someone somewhere changed what it meant to get an academic scholarship to a prestigious university. Those kids rarely fuck up...

That said. Total speculation here...but, If he did fuck up, he would be more desperate than someone who "got in", 1) as I presume the academic requirements to stay on scholarship are higher than those for merely staying in school. 2) He couldn't just pay his way and take on the lower standard.

This would paint a completely different picture regarding how believable he was/is.

First of all. I asked a general question regarding smart kids falling behind in great schools. It happens.

What is the difference between being accepted at ND and being invited? What would that have to do with this student?

What is an academic scholarship at ND? I thought I read (Wizard I think) that students gain admission and then are awarded aid based on need only. They may be called scholarships but they are need based only.

What do you define as a kid who "got in"? Why the quotations?

Smart kids f@ck up all the time btw. As a percentage it's very small but there are numerous cases at every elite school, every year. Some get through it, some are forced to go slum it at Dayton or Marquette.

In regards to having to keep a higher GPA to stay on school granted, need based aid vs. students from wealthy families who are paying 100% of their TR&B out of pocket... I have no idea ND's stance on that.

Any ND alumnus wanna weigh in?

 

[BobbyMac]

google

cache

I didn't look for the young one. Hopefully the she took after Dad's side of the family.

 

[Irish YJ]

I didn't look for the young one. Hopefully the she took after Dad's side of the family.

I'm probably not skilled enough... but couldn't find anything.... coaching please lol

 

[phgreek]

First of all. I asked a general question regarding smart kids falling behind in great schools. It happens.

What is the difference between being accepted at ND and being invited? What would that have to do with this student?

If he was on merit based money ...maybe a lot. Don't know his financial situation, but if you have an academic scholarship, you don't want to lose that. Generally people who have academic money are required to perform at a higher standard than the normal student to keep it. Honestly if ND is different, I wouldn't know.

What is an academic scholarship at ND? I thought I read (Wizard I think) that students gain admission and then are awarded aid based on need only. They may be called scholarships but they are need based only.

I don't think that is true...I believe there are merit based scholarships awarded

What do you define as a kid who "got in"? Why the quotations?

Someone who went through the admissions process and was granted admission so long as they could meet the financial requirements...ie pay or qualify for aid...to differnetiate between academic scholarship awardee and someone who is a normal student

Smart kids f@ck up all the time btw. As a percentage it's very small but there are numerous cases at every elite school, every year. Some get through it, some are forced to go slum it at Dayton or Marquette.

Never met a kid awarded an academic scholarship who failed out or was dropped from the scholarship. Know many kids who were high test scorers, got in, and later failed out due to poor study skills.

In regards to having to keep a higher GPA to stay on school granted, need based aid vs. students from wealthy families who are paying 100% of their TR&B out of pocket... I have no idea ND's stance on that.

Any ND alumnus wanna weigh in?

the point I was making is that it would be an odd situation and may make the kid desperate...which makes his story questionable at least.

 

[Classic Irish]

not accepted...invited. Look the kid was on an academic scholarship. Thats not like some kid who "got in". Unless someone somewhere changed what it meant to get an academic scholarship to a prestigious university. Those kids rarely fuck up...

That said. Total speculation here...but, If he did fuck up, he would be more desperate than someone who "got in", 1) as I presume the academic requirements to stay on scholarship are higher than those for merely staying in school. 2) He couldn't just pay his way and take on the lower standard.

This would paint a completely different picture regarding how believable he was/is.

Excellent point. As you suggest, this raises some interesting questions.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Based on the complaint, would seem like ND could easily have a solid affirmative defense. Every allegation is intentional conduct by the employee, clearly outside the scope of employment. It's borderline frivolous.

Obviously having the student fvck her daughter while talking about his BBC is outside of the scope of her employment, but if she was leveraging her position as a tutor I don't think it's so clear. To use an easier example, we'd all agree that a school would be liable if it turned out a male teacher was fvcking a high school girl during detention, right?

 

[stlnd01]

First of all. I asked a general question regarding smart kids falling behind in great schools. It happens.

What is the difference between being accepted at ND and being invited? What would that have to do with this student?

What is an academic scholarship at ND? I thought I read (Wizard I think) that students gain admission and then are awarded aid based on need only. They may be called scholarships but they are need based only.

What do you define as a kid who "got in"? Why the quotations?

Smart kids f@ck up all the time btw. As a percentage it's very small but there are numerous cases at every elite school, every year. Some get through it, some are forced to go slum it at Dayton or Marquette.

In regards to having to keep a higher GPA to stay on school granted, need based aid vs. students from wealthy families who are paying 100% of their TR&B out of pocket... I have no idea ND's stance on that.

Any ND alumnus wanna weigh in?

Been a bit since I was there but I definitely knew kids who had academic scholarships who had to maintain a certain GPA for it to be maintained. I also knew people who were the smartest kid in their whole damn county - and probably had academic scholarships as a result - who walked in to Notre Dame and felt in over their head. Especially as freshmen.
So I could see someone in that situation feeling pressured and making some mistakes.
What all that has to do with football players and intercourse and some skeezy lawyer angling for a settlement, I have no idea.

 

[PLACforever]

What is an academic coach?

coaches the reigning ACC champion Biology Team

 

[Rhode Irish]

not accepted...invited. Look the kid was on an academic scholarship. Thats not like some kid who "got in". Unless someone somewhere changed what it meant to get an academic scholarship to a prestigious university. Those kids rarely fuck up...

That said. Total speculation here...but, If he did fuck up, he would be more desperate than someone who "got in", 1) as I presume the academic requirements to stay on scholarship are higher than those for merely staying in school. 2) He couldn't just pay his way and take on the lower standard.

This would paint a completely different picture regarding how believable he was/is.

I don't understand this distinction between "accepted" and "invited." Not sure it matters, but I am confused what you're getting at.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Does ND give out race-based scholarships? That might explain this.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Does ND give out race-based scholarships? That might explain this.

This seems like a sinister implication, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Why can't the mothers picture be posted, (fine add one or two others, and specify which one it is in a pm), for all of us lazy bastards that will not take the time to look it up?

 

[phgreek]

I don't understand this distinction between "accepted" and "invited." Not sure it matters, but I am confused what you're getting at.

first para. answers your question...thereon is kinda a logical follow-on in the discussion...full of conjecture I might add.

it is a simple distinction...many submit applications and some are "accepted" into the University. Some kids are provided an academic scholarship (merit based), and may even be recruited/"invited" to attend the University (honestly don't know if ND does that, however many schools do). At the very least they are invited into a scholarship program.

The operable distinction is, kids who are accepted normally are required to maintain...say a 2.5 (guessing), or they are put on academic probation, and may be kicked out at some point. Kids who receive a merit based scholarship are often required to maintain ...say a 3.3(guessing), or they are not offered the scholarship the following year. This may be the problem for John Doe...and if he can't afford school any other way...it might explain how/why he used a strange situation to make himself a victim.

I noted earlier that I've seriously never known anyone who got a merit based academic scholarship to tank it. It is obviously possible, but those kids seem to be made differently...they have the grades, the test scores...recognition for extracurricular endeavors...they have their shit together. Its not like they are the disorganized/disinterested smart kid.

To me John Doe needing a coach was weird....I noted it...but it is not really the crux of the issue...its just an observation noting weirdness among other weird shit.

I am saying, this kid's actions seem to show he was indeed in some academic peril...since he sought out the academic coach...

would it be crazy to think he heard about all of this sex business and sought out a ready-made excuse for tanking? Or he legitimately sought help, and all of this happened, and then it occurred to him to use it?

FWIW...the column today in the NY daily news states...

"The student is now demanding a jury trial, injunctive relief from the University of Notre Dame and for school officials to honor his scholarship while beginning an independent investigation into his accusations."

such an investigation might take...long enough for John Doe to pull grades to save himself maybe?

So whatever happened, I think it is safe to say he had academic issues, and that those likely preclude him from attending Notre Dame w/o mitigating circumstances.

As for the Pimp and her daughter...weird people...fired. Moving on.

 

[Classic Irish]

first para. answers your question...thereon is kinda a logical follow-on in the discussion...full of conjecture I might add.

it is a simple distinction...many submit applications and some are "accepted" into the University. Some kids are provided an academic scholarship (merit based), and may even be recruited/"invited" to attend the University (honestly don't know if ND does that, however many schools do). At the very least they are invited into a scholarship program.

The operable distinction is, kids who are accepted normally are required to maintain...say a 2.5 (guessing), or they are put on academic probation, and may be kicked out at some point. Kids who receive a merit based scholarship are often required to maintain ...say a 3.3(guessing), or they are not offered the scholarship the following year. This may be the problem for John Doe...and if he can't afford school any other way...it might explain how/why he used a strange situation to make himself a victim.

I noted earlier that I've seriously never known anyone who got a merit based academic scholarship to tank it. It is obviously possible, but those kids seem to be made differently...they have the grades, the test scores...recognition for extracurricular endeavors...they have their shit together. Its not like they are the disorganized/disinterested smart kid.

To me John Doe needing a coach was weird....I noted it...but it is not really the crux of the issue...its just an observation noting weirdness among other weird shit.

I am saying, this kid's actions seem to show he was indeed in some academic peril...since he sought out the academic coach...

would it be crazy to think he heard about all of this sex business and sought out a ready-made excuse for tanking? Or he legitimately sought help, and all of this happened, and then it occurred to him to use it?

FWIW...the column today in the NY daily news states...

"The student is now demanding a jury trial, injunctive relief from the University of Notre Dame and for school officials to honor his scholarship while beginning an independent investigation into his accusations."

such an investigation might take...long enough for John Doe to pull grades to save himself maybe?

So whatever happened, I think it is safe to say he had academic issues, and that those likely preclude him from attending Notre Dame w/o mitigating circumstances.

As for the Pimp and her daughter...weird people...fired. Moving on.

The timing of this suit may also support your claim, namely right after midterms. Perhaps his midterm grades continue to threaten the loss of his scholarship, he sees the writing on the wall, and then runs to a lawyer with his story.