Who Will Replace Steve Sarkisian?

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Steely,

That's a good point. I'd be surprised if they don't go for Sumlin. IDK if he'll take it - AM is becoming big time, but I do think he'd listen.
 
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I played basketball on the same team as Mullen's S/C coache's brother. He wanted the Michigan job pretty bad FWIW.
 

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That program has been drug through the mud for the last decade with drama, do they really want to take a chance on a guy with a checkered past? Obviously they will hire a guy who will win, but at some point they need to put their foot down and hire a Charlie Strong type guy to tune up the culture of apathy and poor choices.

I had totally forgotten about Kelly's rumored recruiting violations. Good point actually.

Still an offensive wet dream though.
 

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Alabama, Michigan, OSU, Texas, ND, USC, all have an argument IMO. It really depends on what you want. Want prestige? ND. Want weather? USC. Want the midwest lifestyle with a manageable schedule? OSU/Michigan. Want the die hards? Bama. Want a massive network, decent weather, and a great recruiting state? Texas.

You could walk onto any of these campuses and facilities and have your jaw dropped.

This is true, but I think the vast majority of people here and elsewhere underestimate how difficult the academic standards make the ND job. It's not just recruiting, it's every single day having to worry about kids showing up to class, making sure they're actually doing their work instead of the tutors, etc. I don't think the vast majority of coaches (1) realize how difficult it is and (2) if they did realize how difficult it is, would be totally okay with it.
 

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Chips not getting fired.

A lot of variables though in this decision. Will Haden be around to make the call? Even if he is will it be entirely up to him? Seems people are fed up with him.

IMO 2 guys that will get a lot of attention this off season, although may not be high profile enough to make the "splash" SC wants, are Matt Cambell of Toledo and Matt Rhule of Temple. Both coaches taking their programs to new heights and in the perfect age threshold (~35-40). I doubt they will get looked at, but if I'm hiring from the college ranks these are my top 2, other than luring one of the obvious big heads already at major programs.
 

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What exactly were Chip Kelly's recruiting violations for?

He paid a recruiting service "scouting fees" that ended up in a kids checking account. Or something along those lines.
 

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Steely,

That's a good point. I'd be surprised if they don't go for Sumlin. IDK if he'll take it - AM is becoming big time, but I do think he'd listen.

I think they are for sure becoming big time. They are making the biggest stadium in Texas, and the SEC, the alumni are donating money, and his recruiting has been going pretty well.. Why would you want to leave, for a dumpster fire in USC, and playing at a piece of crap stadium in the Colosseum?

Kyle Field expansion: Texas A&M stadium to be biggest in Texas, SEC - SBNation.com
 

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This is true, but I think the vast majority of people here and elsewhere underestimate how difficult the academic standards make the ND job. It's not just recruiting, it's every single day having to worry about kids showing up to class, making sure they're actually doing their work instead of the tutors, etc. I don't think the vast majority of coaches (1) realize how difficult it is and (2) if they did realize how difficult it is, would be totally okay with it.

What you said is true but it doesn't change the fact that ND is easily a top 5 job nationally. The best jobs are always the hardest.

Biggest brand, great facilities, top-level national recruiting, and if you win you are immortalized.
 

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If USC tries to get Chip Kelly right as his Show Cause expires, they'll really have to drop any pretense to being an ethical program.

Then again, they hired two of Pete the Cheat's flunkies in a pathetic attempt to recreate the glory days of the '00s, so perhaps they're well past that point already.
 
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If I'm Haden (or his replacement), my list goes as follows:
1: Chip Kelly
2: Kevin Sumlin
3: Kyle Whittingham
4: Bill O'Brien
5: Justin Fuente

Not saying any of those happen, but I don't think any of them are out of the realm of possibility.
 

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If I'm Haden (or his replacement), my list goes as follows:
1: Chip Kelly
2: Kevin Sumlin
3: Kyle Whittingham
4: Bill O'Brien
5: Justin Fuente

Not saying any of those happen, but I don't think any of them are out of the realm of possibility.

Absolutely no chance Bill O'Brien goes back to college, let alone to a dumpster fire like USC.

I think the best chances from that list are Sumlin, Fuente, and Whittingham (in order).
 

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Not saying this would be smart but something to look at maybe Kirby Smart from bama. He seems like a very good defensive coordinator.
 

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What about Gary Patterson? Not sure what his contract looks like but I'm guessing USC would offer him a big payday?

That might be just as scary as Chip Kelly...
 

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The guy that just kicked their ass.... Chris Peterson appears to be the best they have a chance of landing. I'd hate that, because that would be a problem for ND every year.

A "Safe" hire would be Gary Andersen of Oregon State...lots of experience, pretty good recruiting crew, good coach, heavy values guy. Would do USC some good, image wise. He is another guy I wouldn't want to see every year...
 

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The guy that just kicked their ass.... Chris Peterson appears to be the best they have a chance of landing. I'd hate that, because that would be a problem for ND every year.

A "Safe" hire would be Gary Andersen of Oregon State...lots of experience, pretty good recruiting crew, good coach, heavy values guy. Would do USC some good, image wise. He is another guy I wouldn't want to see every year...

Didn't they offer Peterson the job before Sark but he turned it down in favor of Washington?
 

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Chip isn't leaving unless he gets fired, and he isn't getting fired unless the eagles go like 4-12
 

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Who Will Replace Steve Sarkisian?

Not saying this would be smart but something to look at maybe Kirby Smart from bama. He seems like a very good defensive coordinator.


IIRC, Smart has already had some big time offers in the past, and turned them down (Auburn was one).

They should get Harbaugh. Holy crap would that be funny.
 

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Chip isn't leaving unless he gets fired, and he isn't getting fired unless the eagles go like 4-12


Didn't the Eagles brass basically make a ton of concessions for him too this offseason? Seems like a 2 year commitment minimum after those were made.
 

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If USC tries to get Chip Kelly right as his Show Cause expires, they'll really have to drop any pretense to being an ethical program.

Then again, Haden hired two of Pete the Cheat's flunkies in a pathetic attempt to recreate the glory days of the '00s, so perhaps they're well past that point already.

Garrett hired Kiffin. Haden only hired Sark.
 
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My recommendations would be Tyrone Willingham, Paul Hackett, and Ted Tollner.


Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
 
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Part of me thinks they have a hard time attracting an established coach because Pat Haden is a rather overbearing AD. No coach with great options wants to have to put up with that.

Of course, Haden is very likely next in line to get shown the door though.
 

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I don't know why you guys think SC is a great job? Crap facilities, crap location of LA, Long commute to work from any place you want to live, cost of living, cost of living and cost of living when and they don't pay as much as you'd think.

Mike Sumlin isn't leaving for that dumpster fire. He's set, made more money than SC has ever paid. If SC mentions his name, they'll give him more on the spot. Word is, the only place he'd go in college some day would be ND.

Thank God Peterson is stuck at Washington because of the timing and situation. At least, I can't see that happening all things considered.

Whittingham is one to watch. That's a d!*k move though.

Chip Kelly would suck. I'd just assume join the ACC and give up playing westcoast teams.

Thank goodness Harbaugh went to UM when he did. That would have sucked too.

Sanford would be a great hire for them but they can't do that.

Unless it's an NFL guy, I'd say it comes down to Whiitingham, Bryan Harsin or my pick all things considered... Chad Morris.

One other thing to keep in mind, SC's 20+ year hold on being LA's premier, pay to play football team ends soon. With the NFL sending 1 or 2 teams here, SC gets less desirable and count on more 40,000 - 50,000 crowds in that big ditch of a stadium.
 
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Yeah they could land a HR hire like Chip Kelly (did anyone answer what's up with his show cause??) but most likely they'll have to reach for someone imo
 

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What about Gary Patterson? Not sure what his contract looks like but I'm guessing USC would offer him a big payday?

That might be just as scary as Chip Kelly...

Scarier, in some ways. There's a decent chance that Chip would burn hot and flame out quickly; and/or get dinged for serious recruiting violations again. Patterson is every bit the program builder that Chip is, but he's much more stable. If he takes the job, we may be looking at a decade of Trojan resurgence.

Didn't they offer Peterson the job before Sark but he turned it down in favor of Washington?

He wanted the job, but Haden passed him over for Sark. Husky fans must be feasting on schadenfreude right now. Petersen was asked a bunch of questions about that process in the run up to last Thursday's game, and he keep repeating that UW is a better fit for him and his family than USC would have been. Could just be typical "this is my dream job" bluster, but I wouldn't be surprised if Petersen sends USC packing next time.

Garrett hired Kiffin. Haden only hired Sark.

Good catch, though that actually makes USC look worse, because those poor hires can't be blamed on a single incompetent AD.
 

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Dude... Seriously?

A couple of places reported that Peterson turned USC down this last time.

Boise State's Chris Peterson withdraws from USC coaching search

As to what actually happened who knows but Peterson hasn't been one to chase greener pastures so it wouldn't be surprising.

Maybe he withdrew after his interview didn't go well, maybe he knew Sark was going to get it, or maybe he disliked Haden. I think it is funny that Haden didn't like Peterson's personality during the interview.
 
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