SEC Media Days - Questions we would like to ask

[IrishSteelhead]

SEC Media Days - Questions we would like to ask

But as far as this year's schedule, I believe Bama has a much, much tougher road than your Irish does.

I agree with TT on this. Bama's schedule is absolutely BRUTAL this year, and this is even after penciling Georgia in as an 8-4 underachiever. If the Dawgs play like they should (a top ten team), it is RIDICULOUSLY BRUTAL......

 

[PANDFAN]

Watch Paul Finebaum call the SEC overrated - Land-Grant Holy Land

 

[pkt77242]

I agree with TT on this. Bama's schedule is absolutely BRUTAL this year, and this is even after penciling Georgia in as an 8-4 underachiever. If the Dawgs play like they should (a top ten team), it is RIDICULOUSLY BRUTAL......

I don't know if it is much, much more brutal as TT said it was, now it does seem to be a little bit more difficult
According to SI post spring power poll
ND plays: 11 (Stanford), 14 (USC), 16(Clemson), and 21 (GT)
Alabama plays: 3 (Auburn), 12 (Ole Miss), 18 (Georgia), 20 (Wisconsin) and 24 (LSU)

I do think that Stanford is overrated and USC underrated for ND, but I think that Ole Miss and Wisconsin are overrated on Bama's schedule, while I think Georgia is underrated.

 

[IrishLion]

Either Mississippi team being top 15 is a joke IMO.

 

[wizards8507]

Finebaum on CFL today said he doesn't think any SEC team will make the playoff.

 

[condoms SUCk]

I don't know if it is much, much more brutal as TT said it was, now it does seem to be a little bit more difficult
According to SI post spring power poll
ND plays: 11 (Stanford), 14 (USC), 16(Clemson), and 21 (GT)
Alabama plays: 3 (Auburn), 12 (Ole Miss), 18 (Georgia), 20 (Wisconsin) and 24 (LSU)

I do think that Stanford is overrated and USC underrated for ND, but I think that Ole Miss and Wisconsin are overrated on Bama's schedule, while I think Georgia is underrated.

yeah, to be honest, i would rather have our schedule this year they Bama's. I'll back TT on this one, their schedule makes me cringe.

 

[Redbar]

I agree with TT on this. Bama's schedule is absolutely BRUTAL this year, and this is even after penciling Georgia in as an 8-4 underachiever. If the Dawgs play like they should (a top ten team), it is RIDICULOUSLY BRUTAL......

They open with Wiscy in Dallas, shouldn't be a tough one to get up for; then they spend the rest of September at home with Ole Miss sandwiched between Middle Tennessee and ULM. Once they get their bearings in September they play four familiar in conference foes, then take a bye before LSU at home. Then they trek over to Mississippi, to play another conference game, and have to hurry back to play Charleston, before finishing up way up in Auburn. Not the easiest schedule by far, but not extremely brutal, not much, much harder than ND.

 

[GBdomer]

This guy just laid down the damn truth

 

[T Town Tommy]

Finebaum on CFL today said he doesn't think any SEC team will make the playoff.

I agree with that. The way the playoff system sets up, I think you need to have a dominant team in your conference and I don't see that this year in the SEC. I see 4-5 really solid teams but not one team that is going to be able to run the table. A two loss SEC champ this year would not shock me at all.

 

[Legacy]

I agree with that. The way the playoff system sets up, I think you need to have a dominant team in your conference and I don't see that this year in the SEC. I see 4-5 really solid teams but not one team that is going to be able to run the table. A two loss SEC champ this year would not shock me at all.

I can't jump on board with that yet. So much talk this time of year. The Big Ten, if it is Ohio State, will be in. A dominant Pac12 team will be in. The Big 12 champion will have to go undefeated or you will hear how a one loss B12 champ is inferior to a two loss SEC champ. A one loss SEC champ is in, maybe even a two loss champ. The ACC champ is out if the B12 champ is undefeated. With one loss for each ACC and B12 champ and the other scenarios play out, the Committee will have to choose between the ACC and B12 champs. Only a three loss SEC champ is out. The SEC will be given a lot of slack. No one is talking of Notre Dame, who would be the joker in this deck. Two P5 champs would be out if ND is in.

 

[ACamp1900]

This guy just laid down the damn truth

I'm with this guy, and have been for years, but last year was the worst...

 

[NCND]

Being saying this exact thing for YEARS.

 

[NCND]

That video needs to spread like wildfire..

 

[Booslum31]

what's the going rate for a pass rushing DE ??

This is my favorite.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I can't jump on board with that yet. So much talk this time of year. The Big Ten, if it is Ohio State, will be in. A dominant Pac12 team will be in. The Big 12 champion will have to go undefeated or you will hear how a one loss B12 champ is inferior to a two loss SEC champ. A one loss SEC champ is in, maybe even a two loss champ. The ACC champ is out if the B12 champ is undefeated. With one loss for each ACC and B12 champ and the other scenarios play out, the Committee will have to choose between the ACC and B12 champs. Only a three loss SEC champ is out. The SEC will be given a lot of slack. No one is talking of Notre Dame, who would be the joker in this deck. Two P5 champs would be out if ND is in.

Too many scenarios to play out this early. I do think Notre Dame is at a disadvantage with the playoff system. In a scenario where the power five conference champs have one loss and the Irish have one loss as well, I think the Irish lose out most years. A two loss conference champ against a one loss Notre Dame? That becomes the committees nightmare. Would strength of schedule play a part? Would being a conference champ playing a 13th game matter? Some on the committee state the "eye test" is important as well. In any circumstance, I think every year there will be teams that don't make the four team playoff but have legitimate arguments as to why they should have. Until playoff expansion comes, I think that's where we are at. Glad I am not on the committee that has to answer those questions.

 

[irishtrain]

Too many scenarios to play out this early. I do think Notre Dame is at a disadvantage with the playoff system. In a scenario where the power five conference champs have one loss and the Irish have one loss as well, I think the Irish lose out most years. A two loss conference champ against a one loss Notre Dame? That becomes the committees nightmare. Would strength of schedule play a part? Would being a conference champ playing a 13th game matter? Some on the committee state the "eye test" is important as well. In any circumstance, I think every year there will be teams that don't make the four team playoff but have legitimate arguments as to why they should have. Until playoff expansion comes, I think that's where we are at. Glad I am not on the committee that has to answer those questions.

I don't get the concept of a 13th game-if you cant tell who the best 4 teams in the country are by doing your job then you shouldn't be on the committee. To slam a qualified team just because they don't play this 13th game is really asinine. If the sec has their typical standout team they will be in the 4 way (as they should be). This crutch of a 13th game is just put out their to control the 'GAME'. (as in their game and their rules) Look at what has happened the past few years we got blasted by a far superior Alabama team, two sec teams played each other when there were 2 other qualified teams who could have gone, a 2 loss sec team is chosen and wins. In all those scenarios they where other teams who got by passed who may have been the champion. Except for the Alabama team of 2012 all these championship games could have been different just by the schools chosen. Its not about a 13th game-just do your job, know your job, and chose the right 4 teams. Hell if a team has zero losses and cant compete don't put them in the game. If my Irish get shut out with zero losses and its obvious they aren't qualified so be it. Its still a fictional national championship until you open it up to at minimum 6-8 teams

 

[T Town Tommy]

I don't get the concept of a 13th game-if you cant tell who the best 4 teams in the country are by doing your job then you shouldn't be on the committee. To slam a qualified team just because they don't play this 13th game is really asinine. If the sec has their typical standout team they will be in the 4 way (as they should be). This crutch of a 13th game is just put out their to control the 'GAME'. (as in their game and their rules) Look at what has happened the past few years we got blasted by a far superior Alabama team, two sec teams played each other when there were 2 other qualified teams who could have gone, a 2 loss sec team is chosen and wins. In all those scenarios they where other teams who got by passed who may have been the champion. Except for the Alabama team of 2012 all these championship games could have been different just by the schools chosen. Its not about a 13th game-just do your job, know your job, and chose the right 4 teams. Hell if a team has zero losses and cant compete don't put them in the game. If my Irish get shut out with zero losses and its obvious they aren't qualified so be it. Its still a fictional national championship until you open it up to at minimum 6-8 teams

I don't really disagree on the 13th game issue but keep in mind there were a lot of committee members who stated the B1G championship game performance by the Buckeyes is why they chose them instead of TCU and Baylor.

 

[Cackalacky]

This guy just laid down the damn truth

This guy made my day. Lol. I am sending this to all my buddies. Last year was the absolute worst for the SEC hype machine.

 

[kmoose]

I don't really disagree on the 13th game issue but keep in mind there were a lot of committee members who stated the B1G championship game performance by the Buckeyes is why they chose them instead of TCU and Baylor.

And if Ohio State had played that same game, at the same time(in relation to the selection of the playoff teams) as their 12th game, nothing would have changed. Even if it hadn't been a CCG. If they had a 3rd bye week in the season, and played a Top 15 Michigan as the last game of the season, the day before the committee announced their selections: If OSU had beaten a Top 15 Michigan 59-0, using their 3rd team QB, the result would have been the same.

 

[Legacy]

Saban had some excuses prepared for today for sure haha.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says playing Auburn and SEC title game is a challenge leading into a playoff.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621326950158745600">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says team chemistry affected at end of year by Dec. 15 draft grade submission date. Wants moved back avoid distraction.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621325719319236608">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says team ran out of gas at end of year in part due to increased no-huddle use</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621321758474420224">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Nick Saban's NFL Draft argument is self-serving and doesn't make much sense (Sbnation July 16, 2015 - SEC Media Days)

Alabama's Nick Saban Admits That He's A Poor Motivator (Sbnation July 22, 2014 - SEC Media Days)


Some media members are not giving this guy a break.

Here's Rollbamaroll's article - Jumbo Package: Snide Media Days Edition
"Yet, every year it seems, it's impossible for Saban to actually answer the damned things without it turning into a carnival of smarmy back-biting, smoking hot #takes, and ledes and headlines written by Matt Drudge."

 

[Cali_domer]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Gary Pinkel said no independents in @CFBPlayoff. “Give Notre Dame year to join a league. They don’t have independents in NFL"


Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 15m15 minutes ago
Mizzou’s Gary Pinkel: “It’s real important that all (Power 5) conferences have a championship game"

 

[GreenSox04]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Gary Pinkel said no independents in @CFBPlayoff. “Give Notre Dame year to join a league. They don’t have independents in NFL"


Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 15m15 minutes ago
Mizzou’s Gary Pinkel: “It’s real important that all (Power 5) conferences have a championship game"

Give the SEC and all power fiver conferences a year to unschedule FCS schools, no CFL teams in the NFL.

 

[Irish YJ]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Gary Pinkel said no independents in @CFBPlayoff. “Give Notre Dame year to join a league. They don’t have independents in NFL"


Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 15m15 minutes ago
Mizzou’s Gary Pinkel: “It’s real important that all (Power 5) conferences have a championship game"

I'm sure Brett can't wait for the ESPN super conferences to take form....
Fxxx ESPN and fxxx Mizzou.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Gary Pinkel said no independents in @CFBPlayoff. “Give Notre Dame year to join a league. They don’t have independents in NFL"


Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 15m15 minutes ago
Mizzou’s Gary Pinkel: “It’s real important that all (Power 5) conferences have a championship game"

Good thing this isn't the NFL.

VDP said, "Gary Pinkel is just salty that ND plucks the best talent out of Gary's hands"

 

[Irish YJ]

Mizzou won't sniff an SEC championship game again for a good while IMO. Will be fighting KY and Vandy for 3rd from last in the East

 

[Irish#1]

Saban uses the NFL pre-draft grade evaluations as a distraction, but you didn't here him mention that when they won the championship.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

2015 Missouri Tigers Schedule

SE Missouri St
@Arkansas State
UConn
@Kentucky
South Carolina
Florida
@ Georgia
@ Vanderbilt
Miss St
BYU*
Tennessee
@ Arkansas

Pinkel's got some great non-conference games lined up.

 

[Legacy]

Pinkel does more with less than any other SEC coach. Until last year (#27) Pinkel's classes' rankings were 31-48.

Also worth noting is about MU's schedule is they have the easiest cross-divisional schedule of SEC teams (Mississippi State and Arkansas).

Once FCS games are eliminated and with a playoff expansion to eight teams, I'd be in favor of all five conference champions plus ND with only two losses or less are guaranteed spots. Until then, it's the best four teams.

 

[md_bennett]

Somebody should tell Pinkel that the NFL doesn't get to pick its conference to choose their opponents either. They also have a draft so regional rivalries don't go into who they are able to get. College does not equal pre-NFL no matter how much they try to make it so. What fan would want to take a ND- Stanford game away because we have to play Wake Forest, or the UGA game away because we need to play Virginia. Some things still matter in this world, and Notre Dame being independent is great for all people playing non conference games. Suck it Pinkel!

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

2015 Missouri Tigers Schedule

SE Missouri St
@Arkansas State
UConn
@Kentucky
South Carolina
Florida
@ Georgia
@ Vanderbilt
Miss St
BYU*
Tennessee
@ Arkansas

Pinkel's got some great non-conference games lined up.

I'm actually impressed that BYU was added. I bet BYU thumps them unless they lost a lot last year.