SEC Media Days - Questions we would like to ask

[Legacy]

Today's lineup

Today's lineup

Saban (Alabama), Stoops (Kentucky), Pinkel (Missouri), Bielema (Arkansas)

Last year, the SEC went 11-11 against three of the other Power 5 conferences (and ND). You went 44-1 against non-P5 and FCS schools.

---Don't you want to play more games with "men's conferences"?

You did not play any games against the Pac 12, though. Half of the SEC teams have gone more than a decade since they played a game in Mountain or Pacific time zones. Over the next thirteen years, seven SEC teams will play away games with Pac12 teams.

----What is stopping the four of you (Alabama, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas) and Florida, S.Carolina, Tennessee from scheduling home and home games with Pac12 teams?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Saban (Alabama), Stoops (Kentucky), Pinkel (Missouri), Bielema (Arkansas)

Last year, the SEC went 11-11 against three of the other Power 5 conferences (and ND). You went 44-1 against non-P5 and FCS schools.

---Don't you want to play more games with "men's conferences"?

You did not play any games against the Pac 12, though. Half of the SEC teams have gone more than a decade since they played a game in Mountain or Pacific time zones. Over the next thirteen years, seven SEC teams will play away games with Pac12 teams.

----What is stopping the four of you (Alabama, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas) and Florida, S.Carolina, Tennessee from scheduling home and home games with Pac12 teams?

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

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[BGIF]

Saban (Alabama), Stoops (Kentucky), Pinkel (Missouri), Bielema (Arkansas)

Last year, the SEC went 11-11 against three of the other Power 5 conferences (and ND). You went 44-1 against non-P5 and FCS schools.

---Don't you want to play more games with "men's conferences"?

You did not play any games against the Pac 12, though. Half of the SEC teams have gone more than a decade since they played a game in Mountain or Pacific time zones. Over the next thirteen years, seven SEC teams will play away games with Pac12 teams.

----What is stopping the four of you (Alabama, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas) and Florida, S.Carolina, Tennessee from scheduling home and home games with Pac12 teams?

They remember what happened to Lee when he ventured outside the Confederacy.

Southern teams still do better when they make the other guys come to them.

 

[Irish#1]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

Touch a nerve Tommy? lol

 

[woolybug25]

I kinda get why TTown hit back on Legacy. As the whole schtick, the entire time Legacy been on IE, has been a mission about the evils of the SEC and oversigning. Nothing else. Just a long list of victim mentality posts about how everybody else in college football are cheaters and scum. There is no grey area with him. Just Notre Dame = Greatest and SEC = THE DEVIL.

TTown responds 99% of the time to us with positive and complimentary dialogue. I could see why Legacy's constant barrage of accusatory threads/posts would eventually get to him.

 

[woolybug25]

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[NDdomer2]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

Saban: SEC needs SEC!

 

[IrishLion]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

 

[Irish#1]

I kinda get why TTown hit back on Legacy. As the whole schtick, the entire time Legacy been on IE, has been a mission about the evils of the SEC and oversigning. Nothing else. Just a long list of victim mentality posts about how everybody else in college football are cheaters and scum. There is no grey area with him. Just Notre Dame = Greatest and SEC = THE DEVIL.

TTown responds 99% of the time to us with positive and complimentary dialogue. I could see why Legacy's constant barrage of accusatory threads/posts would eventually get to him.

Tommy's one of the good ones. I was just ribbing him because, this is a little out of character for him.

 

[NDdomer2]

Saban bitching about no huddle offenses again.

Nick Saban says team ran out of gas at end of year in part due to increased no-huddle use

Also, says NFL part of his losses:

Saban isn't happy that NFL draft grades were delivered to juniors on Dec. 15. Said players played not to get hurt, ran out of bounds

 

[WestCoast]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

Follow that question with: "When will the football program drop "University" from the team name?" That way some fans who claim to have integrity don't have to sell their soul for some wins on Saturdays.

 

[IrishLion]

Saban had some excuses prepared for today for sure haha.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says playing Auburn and SEC title game is a challenge leading into a playoff.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621326950158745600">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says team chemistry affected at end of year by Dec. 15 draft grade submission date. Wants moved back avoid distraction.</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621325719319236608">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Saban says team ran out of gas at end of year in part due to increased no-huddle use</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/621321758474420224">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ACamp1900]

Good thing he has an army full of roided up mutants who aren't burdened with academics of any kind... that whole, playing a couple tough games a year thing would really be tough otherwise

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SEC Media Days... <a href="http://t.co/N0LRdVDxbS">pic.twitter.com/N0LRdVDxbS</a></p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/621369812074299392">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[woolybug25]

Oh priceless...

Ohio State fans show up at SEC media days to troll Alabama - SEC Blog - ESPN

 

[IrishLion]

The guy on the left actually has an Auburn national championship hat and Auburn shorts on. Quality trolling either way, though lol.

 

[pumpdog20]

I kinda get why TTown hit back on Legacy. As the whole schtick, the entire time Legacy been on IE, has been a mission about the evils of the SEC and oversigning. Nothing else. Just a long list of victim mentality posts about how everybody else in college football are cheaters and scum. There is no grey area with him. Just Notre Dame = Greatest and SEC = THE DEVIL.

TTown responds 99% of the time to us with positive and complimentary dialogue. I could see why Legacy's constant barrage of accusatory threads/posts would eventually get to him.

Seems like common knowledge; what is it that you disagree with?

 

[Redbar]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

That's a lot of travel and a lot of different types of opponent. Very hard to predict how a team will hold up under those circumstances. It's better to take a bus and play familiar opponents.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I'm on my phone, but anyone want to embed the Plaxico tweets. Funny as fuck.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

SEC Media Days - Questions we would like to ask

I'm on my phone, but anyone want to embed the Plaxico tweets. Funny as fuck.

 

[Irish#1]

Quote:
Nick Saban says team ran out of gas at end of year in part due to increased no-huddle use.


Hey Nick, maybe you should look at your conditioning program.

 

[Irish Insanity]

All past felony convictions are now forgiven in my book.

 

[Legacy]

Maybe someone should ask him why he just doesn't take his program - the cream of the crop in the SEC most years - and just affiliate with the SEC and go independent. That way he would only play five or six games against a round robin of opponents from the SEC. Split the games up so that he doesn't have to play the two remaining traditional powerhouse SEC programs in the same year and only plays them every three years. Then he could schedule more interesting opponents nationwide on a home and home basis. Maybe a Texas, a USC (forget the neutral site BS), Stanford, or traditional powerhouses like Navy, Pitt, Boston College, Purdue. Would make for some great home and homes. He would need to throw in other Power Five opponents such as a Northwestern or a Syracuse as well. That's what I want to ask. What's stopping you Saban?

Mature, intelligent, poking a little fun back, stimulating discussion among us - I like it!

But really, 3T, it's fruitless to compare one team to a conference. I assume you have no quarrel with the 11-11 and 44-1 records and lack of SEC-Pac12 matchups, which most of us would love to see.

What is worth considering is that minus the FCS games, the SEC played twenty-three non-Power 5 conference teams. Navy, using Sagarin's rankings, was ranked seventy-one last year. (Link)

Only four of the twenty-three non-P5 SEC opponents in 2014 ranked higher than Navy (LaTech (34),Boise St (36), UCF (58) and E.Carolina (64)). Nineteen non-P5 opponents of the fourteen SEC schools were ranked lower than Navy. (Plus each SEC team played a FCS school.)

FYI-ND last played Purdue in 2013 (the only time in the last four years).

I like the idea of semi-divesting this conference affiliation, so that we have more games of national interest during the regular season. College football should be more like the NFL with two or three games against teams in other conferences that you don't usually play matched by seeding. What say you Nick?

 

[Legacy]

SEC Media Days, Day Four

SEC Media Days, Day Four

Richt (Georgia), Freeze (Ole Miss), and Miles (LSU)

Coach Miles, Kentucky bluegrass or fescue?

Coach Richt, who will be the new UGa?

Coach Freeze, TCU on line one for a home-and-home.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Mature, intelligent, poking a little fun back, stimulating discussion among us - I like it!

But really, 3T, it's fruitless to compare one team to a conference. I assume you have no quarrel with the 11-11 and 44-1 records and lack of SEC-Pac12 matchups, which most of us would love to see.

What is worth considering is that minus the FCS games, the SEC played twenty-three non-Power 5 conference teams. Navy, using Sagarin's rankings, was ranked seventy-one last year. (Link)

Only four of the twenty-three non-P5 SEC opponents in 2014 ranked higher than Navy (LaTech (34),Boise St (36), UCF (58) and E.Carolina (64)). Nineteen non-P5 opponents of the fourteen SEC schools were ranked lower than Navy. (Plus each SEC team played a FCS school.)


FYI-ND last played Purdue in 2013 (the only time in the last four years).

I like the idea of semi-divesting this conference affiliation, so that we have more games of national interest during the regular season. College football should be more like the NFL with two or three games against teams in other conferences that you don't usually play matched by seeding. What say you Nick?

And yet over the course of the last 15-20 years, the SEC has played more games against and beaten more Power five conference schools than any other conference. Pretty simple to me. I would ask Nick if he would trade his schedule for Notre Dame's schedule this year. What say you Nick?

I am all for Bama smacking down Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, etc on home and home game basis. I am also a big proponent of ending neutral site games as well. Maybe in the future we will see some of the games come about.

But as far as this year's schedule, I believe Bama has a much, much tougher road than your Irish does.

 

[drayer54]

I am also a big proponent of ending neutral site games as well. Maybe in the future we will see some of the games come about.

Some teams who play in crappy snowy midwest towns use them annually to attract recruits. Don't hate.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Some teams who play in crappy snowy midwest towns use them annually to attract recruits. Don't hate.

Yeah I agree. I do think that since recruiting has become such a national thing now more than ever, some games that wouldn't get scheduled in the past could happen more in the future. It really shouldn't matter if Bama goes somewhere like Oregon and played the Ducks. While we would probably never pull many recruits from there, the hype in itself would benefit both schools tremendously.

 

[Redbar]

And yet over the course of the last 15-20 years, the SEC has played more games against and beaten more Power five conference schools than any other conference. Pretty simple to me. I would ask Nick if he would trade his schedule for Notre Dame's schedule this year. What say you Nick?

I am all for Bama smacking down Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, etc on home and home game basis. I am also a big proponent of ending neutral site games as well. Maybe in the future we will see some of the games come about.

But as far as this year's schedule, I believe Bama has a much, much tougher road than your Irish does.

As to the first bolded, I think you might be surprised by his response.

As to the second, I think "much, much tougher" is overstating reality a bit.

 

[Legacy]

And yet over the course of the last 15-20 years, the SEC has played more games against and beaten more Power five conference schools than any other conference. Pretty simple to me. I would ask Nick if he would trade his schedule for Notre Dame's schedule this year. What say you Nick?

I am all for Bama smacking down Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, etc on home and home game basis. I am also a big proponent of ending neutral site games as well. Maybe in the future we will see some of the games come about.

But as far as this year's schedule, I believe Bama has a much, much tougher road than your Irish does.

T Town,
We're all entitled to be proponents of our team and paint them in the best perspective that we can, and think each of us are being fair in their analysis. I trust that you will not regress to a previous comment like "if you guys only knew college football". We have to admit that some SEC teams will likely never stray from their scheduling and their "SECgration now. SECgration forever." which in many of our minds will keep them as regional players. Non-conference regular season home-and-home advocacy against top national teams is just something on which we'll have to wait and see. But, really, "I am all for Bama smacking down Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, etc on home and home game basis?" I'd think you'd back off of that a bit, especially considering the TCU-Ole Miss humiliation. You might consider a Baylor or TCU home-and-home first - or Oklahoma or Texas. All would get national attention and be good for college football.

(Former) Alabama journalists (now national) Jon Solomon and Paul Finnebaum are not as confident of SEC domination as you are.

The Irish have committed to five games per year in (semi) conference play (six this year to make up for four last year due to contracts). But that conference commitment has, in this year for instance, seemingly watered down our schedule with regard to those teams. But doesn't that make us rethink and retool the SEC record over those 15-20 year period when the SEC almost exclusively played the ACC in the regular season as well as all the contractual bowl games with the ACC and Big Ten? Still, when you become part of conference play, you take what the conference gives you, including Clemson and a sitting national champion (in '14) in FSU and their weaker sisters?

In short, a 10-10 record against Power5 opponents last year without playing any Pac12 teams and with all those years of recruiting rankings of number one - or in the top ten for other SEC teams - must leave the faithful a bit disappointed. I believe you once said that, in the end, you only care about Alabama and Kentucky. So, understandably, your fallback is an Alabama-Notre Dame comparison.

But, if anyone wants to schedule ND in the future, I would hazard that the first criteria is a measure of respect for our national fanbase who may attend the game. Beyond that we'll travel anywhere and play anyone.