15 Schools will offer over $4,000 in Full Cost of Attendance.

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The University of Tennessee and four other major-college athletics departments are set to offer players an additional $5,000 or more in scholarship assistance starting this fall, according to a Chronicle analysis of financial-aid allowances at the 65 wealthiest NCAA institutions. Ten other athletics programs have plans to distribute at least $4,000 more in aid.

The money, part of a new spending allowance approved in January by the five biggest conferences, allows Division I colleges to cover the full cost of players’ scholarships. Previously, colleges could cover only the cost of a basic scholarship — tuition, fees, room and board, and books.

The change was designed to direct more money to players as television money has expanded. But disparities in what programs can offer has put new pressure on college budgets and altered the dynamics of recruiting.

Spending power among the five biggest conferences — the Atlantic Coast, Big Ten, Big 12, Pacific-12, and Southeastern — varies greatly.

Here are the schools:

1. Tennessee: $5,666 SEC
2. Auburn: $5,586 SEC
3. Louisville: $5,202 ACC
4. Mississippi State: $5,126 SEC
5. Texas Tech: $5,100 Big XII
6. Penn State: $4,788 B1G
7. TCU: $4,700 Big XII
8. Oklahoma: $4,614 Big XII
9. Oklahoma State: $4,560 Big XII
10. Ole Miss: $4,500 SEC
11. Wisconsin: $4,316 B1G
12. Texas: $4,310 Big XII
13. South Carolina: $4,151 SEC
14. Kansas State: $4,112 Big XII
15. Arkansas: $4,002 SEC
At Least 15 Athletics Programs to Offer More Than $4,000 in Extra Aid to Athletes - Athletics - The Chronicle of Higher Education

We're really low on the list.
 

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What is a college kid (who doesn't have to pay for living or tuition) doing in a year that they need 5 grand to do it?
 

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Seriously, outside of living expenses, I pay for a car, buy vinyl, go out to eat, and of course buy plenty of booze, and I don't think I could spend 5k in a year.
 

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Seriously, outside of living expenses, I pay for a car, buy vinyl, go out to eat, and of course buy plenty of booze, and I don't think I could spend 5k in a year.

sayyyyyyy what???

my car payment 400/month = 4800
 

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Seriously, outside of living expenses, I pay for a car, buy vinyl, go out to eat, and of course buy plenty of booze, and I don't think I could spend 5k in a year.

Enjoy that while you can! The pain is coming!
 

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NCAA needs to cap this number at around 5k and it's fine. Call it the equivalent earnings of a part-time job that they're unable to have being student-athletes.

This opens up such other issues though. Does this extend to every single student-athlete on scholarship? I imagine it does due to Title IX. How about walk-ons? They put in the same amount of hours as scholarship athletes do.

Most people (not really any posters here) seem to blindly think paying college kids is fine, cause they only consider the power programs in football and basketball. I need to find the article, but the amount of schools (even Power-5 schools) that lose money in athletics every year is astounding. Just based on what people write online, you would think every school was raking it in.
 

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And how is Tennessee #1? If you gave me 10 guesses as to which Power 5 school was #1 I would not have picked them.

Probably because the new football coach is trying to build the program back up and wants to use this as a recruiting tool.

I wonder how many kids will base their decision on the extra money? You know there will be some that will be that short sighted.
 

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What is a college kid (who doesn't have to pay for living or tuition) doing in a year that they need 5 grand to do it?

Do they have all of their food covered? And I don't mean only cafeteria food? Do they have clothing covered? Do they have cell phones covered? Do they have various subscription services covered, like NetFlix or XBOX Live?

$5k is not an egregious amount if you have travel needs coupled with the things above.
 

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How would you like to be SC right now??? $1500 to play there vs. $3500 to play at ASU with all the women and nightlife you can handle. Trojans are in trouble. Hell... you get a $1000 kicker for signing with UCLA over SC.

Bama's fuming today... Auburn can give players $2800 more than the Tide. Watch how recruiting changes overnight.

UK basketball may have died today.... 7 players are leaving for the pros and the Ville can give players $3000 more than the Wildcats! Texas and Shaka Smart can give $4300, that might be the new One & Done factory.

Bama, UK and SC getting hosed... maybe it's not such a bad thing after all.

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And how is Tennessee #1? If you gave me 10 guesses as to which Power 5 school was #1 I would not have picked them.

They're always at the top of the recruiting budget also... Return on investment must not be a thing out on rocky top...
 

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I also predict a huge surge in transfers. If I'm an underclassman at a mid major scoring 20 and thought about transferring before, I'm gone now for the $$$.

Plus you get paid while siting out!

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It all depends on how you sort the data. While ND might not offer the most "extra money" They still offer the 4th most valuable total package.


Here is the top 4 in total package amounts. The last column is the "extra money"


Northwestern University*
$68,095 $2,492


University of Southern California*
$65,982 $1,580

Stanford University*
$62,540 $2,625

University of Notre Dame*
$62,826 $1,950
 

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Probably because the new football coach is trying to build the program back up and wants to use this as a recruiting tool.

I wonder how many kids will base their decision on the extra money? You know there will be some that will be that short sighted.

Yep. TN is making a huge push. They'll be relevant in football in very short order.
 

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It all depends on how you sort the data. While ND might not offer the most "extra money" They still offer the 4th most valuable total package.


Here is the top 4 in total package amounts. The last column is the "extra money"


Northwestern University*
$68,095 $2,492


University of Southern California*
$65,982 $1,580

Stanford University*
$62,540 $2,625

University of Notre Dame*
$62,826 $1,950


Well this doesn't mean much for recruiting otherwise Northwestern would be a top destination along with Wake, Duke and BC.

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Well this doesn't mean much for recruiting otherwise Northwestern would be a top destination along with Wake, Duke and BC.

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While I agree, I just don't think the kid that picks TN over ND based on a few extra thousand bucks a year, while losing out on over 100,000 grand worth of education was going to ND anyway.
 

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While I agree, I just don't think the kid that picks TN over ND based on a few extra thousand bucks a year, while losing out on over 100,000 grand worth of education was going to ND anyway.

Define "the kid". There will absolutely be kids that will pick TN, Auburn, Ville over ND for that $3000-$3500 extra per year. $300 a month buys you a nice little car... something many of these guys have never had. Will ND still get its RKG's? Sure. But this impacts everyone in football and it changes basketball overnight.

Watch what happens to SC if this stands. Lets see if they continue to dominate recruiting with only $1500 to award vs. UCLA's $2500 and ASU / UofA / Cal's $3500ish.

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Define "the kid". There will absolutely be kids that will pick TN, Auburn, Ville over ND for that $3000-$3500 extra per year. $300 a month buys you a nice little car... something many of these guys have never had. Will ND still get its RKG's? Sure. But this impacts everyone in football and it changes basketball overnight.

Watch what happens to SC if this stands. Lets see if they continue to dominate recruiting with only $1500 to award vs. UCLA's $2500 and ASU / UofA / Cal's $3500ish.

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They aren't jet handing these kids cash are they? That is not my understanding of how this is supposed to work. I may be wrong but this extra money cannot be used to make car payments and such. If am wrong the will corrupt college sports in a pretty big way.
 

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...and btw:

Rick Barnes is a BOSS. He just walked into a gig at Tennessee where he gets $43k in additional cash per year for his players than Calipari can pay his boys at UK. Calipari has probably already spoken to 3 NBA teams this morning!

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They aren't jet handing these kids cash are they? That is not my understanding of how this is supposed to work. I may be wrong but this extra money cannot be used to make car payments and such. If am wrong the will corrupt college sports in a pretty big way.

That's how I've read it and it's been explained to me. They get the money in monthly checks over the school year. The story says UT-K can start paying the kids the additional $630 per month over the 9 month school year. (They get more if they stay in summer school)

You think Kentucky isn't gonna cheat more to keep its place at the head of the table?

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What is a college kid (who doesn't have to pay for living or tuition) doing in a year that they need 5 grand to do it?

$100/week for gas in their car, a car payment, the ability to grab a burger once in awhile, some clothes, personal incidentals (toilet tissue, toothpaste, snack food, etc.), a cell phone, utilities, an occasional date, and the list goes on and on. A lot of these kids have almost nothing and families that can't help them financially. $100 per week doesn't seem unreasonable.
 

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...and btw:

Rick Barnes is a BOSS. He just walked into a gig at Tennessee where he gets $43k in additional cash per year for his players than Calipari can pay his boys at UK. Calipari has probably already spoken to 3 NBA teams this morning!

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But Rick Barnes is a bad basketball coach. I'm not a Cal fan, but Barnes doesn't scare him. I can guarantee that.
 

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This is not unreasonable in the human and personal economic sense, and certainly not unreasonable given the amount of revenue the FB teams bring in.

I remember a poor football player during my days at IU. He had 4 pair of jeans, and that was about it. Couldn't even afford laundry and things we all take for granted. We'd always invite him down to our rooms for pizza night.

We need to keep up with the jones. Good for Tennessee.
 

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But Rick Barnes is a bad basketball coach. I'm not a Cal fan, but Barnes doesn't scare him. I can guarantee that.

Any coach with $43k more than you to handout to his players is gonna scare Cal.

As far as you're concerned, KU's days are numbered as a Top 5 Blue Blood too. Self has $3k per player, Shaka has $4300 at UT, OU and OSU have $4500. TCU has $4700 and Texas Tech has $5100 per. (they'll need it).

If this stands, KU will never get another Cliff Alexander, Andrew Wiggins type again.

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It all depends on how you sort the data. While ND might not offer the most "extra money" They still offer the 4th most valuable total package.

Here is the top 4 in total package amounts. The last column is the "extra money"

Northwestern University*
$68,095 $2,492

University of Southern California*
$65,982 $1,580

Stanford University*
$62,540 $2,625

University of Notre Dame*
$62,826 $1,950

That assumes cost of tuition is a good reflection of degree value. But it's not; ND blows NW and SC out of the water.
 
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