'15 FL ATH Dexter Williams (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[IrishLion]

We can debate the merits of the athlete/coach relationship without getting so worked up fellas. Keep it civil.

 

[kmoose]

His words, jackass.

I've been called a lot worse..................













by a lot better.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Ohio State has rings we don't. A kid wants to win he goes to a winner and not us frankly.

No

 

[frankygoes69]

Weak! What "rings" are you talking about? This isn't the NFL jackass! A player commits to the school and not the recruiter!

 

[NCND]

This ring: 2014-2015 College Football Playoff rings - Minneapolis / St. Paul Business Journal

 

[Fbolt]

 

[ThePiombino]

I've been called a lot worse..................













by a lot better.

It was a stupid response. I apologize.

 

[EddytoNow]

So what's the correct answer for a coach seeking upward mobility that he isn't getting at his current job? Bail immediately after the regular season? That might be the best answer, but that's simply not realistic based on how the coaching carousel works.

Was Alford supposed to say "no thanks" for a chance to expand his resume in one of the best ways possible?

I would suggest allowing the recruit to transfer without penalty if the head coach or position coach leaves during the first year of the player's commitment. Perhaps a clause in the LOI such as the following:

I give my commitment to the University of _____________ where ______________ will be my head coach and _____________________ will be my position coach. If there should be a coaching change involving the head coach or my position coach during the first year of my commitment, I am free to transfer to another university without loss of eligibility.

This would provide the student-athlete some of the same mobiliity as the coaches and eliminate the need for deception and lack of honesty by coaches. It would also limit such transfers to the first year of each player's commitment, preventing a mass exodus of key upper classmen from the team. By then the player, hopefully, will have a stronger bond to the university and his teammates than to any particular coach.

 

[L-cart ND-ana]

THis whole thing is not new. National Signing Day is always followed a day later with National Coach Swap Day. There are a ton of other college programs having this same conversation..... they were having this conversation last year as well.

 

[JughedJones]

Ohio State has rings we don't. A kid wants to win he goes to a winner and not us frankly.

3 questions:

1) Who is "not us frankly?"

2) Notre Dame doesn't have rings?

3) Who the hell are you?

 

[L-cart ND-ana]

3 questions:

1) Who is "not us frankly?"

2) Notre Dame doesn't have rings?

3) Who the hell are you?

I am 30 years old and ND's last National Championship is a vague memory. To a 17 year old kid trying to decide on a college, ND having rings is about as equivalent to you or I reading about or being told about how great the 1908 Cubs were.

 

[FLDomer]

Wait....is Dexter transferring to OSU???




Should I put in italics.....hmmmm

 

[JughedJones]

I am 30 years old and ND's last National Championship is a vague memory. To a 17 year old kid trying to decide on a college, ND having rings is about as equivalent to you or I reading about or being told about how great the 1908 Cubs were.

It's not nearly the equivalent, but I'm done arguing this idiocy.

 

[IrishFaninTX]

So would it have been better if he had told Dexter that he wasn't going to be here next year and Dexter chose not to come to ND because of that? I realize that would be an honorable thing to do but wouldn't ND fans be pissed that Alford didn't do his best to close out this class before he left? And who is to say he knew before NSD? It was common knowledge he was interviewing for another job before NSD so I would think if Alford was possibly going to go to OSU then that would have been news, as well. And as many have pointed out, Kelly did the exact same thing when he left Cincy and we are all hoping Denson will do the same thing to USF. How is Alford such a bad guy if we are ok with others doing it as long as it benefits ND?

 

[stlnd01]

How is Alford such a bad guy if we are ok with others doing it as long as it benefits ND?

You know the answer to that.

As for Alford, yeah he interviewed at CSU two months ago, but there is no evidence he was actively talking with Ohio State prior to Signing Day, and they didn't have an RB coach opening prior to Signing Day. Even if he was back-channeling with OSU, Tony played hard til the whistle for us, and landed two big wins late this cycle in Coney and Dexter. No hard feelings toward him.

 

[DonnieNarco]

Alford did his job until the day he left. In a normal setting, that would be admirable. Guys have to look out for themselves, and that's what Alford did. He never neglected his job here, even when he was looking elsewhere.

 

[GBdomer]

So would it have been better if he had told Dexter that he wasn't going to be here next year and Dexter chose not to come to ND because of that? I realize that would be an honorable thing to do but wouldn't ND fans be pissed that Alford didn't do his best to close out this class before he left? And who is to say he knew before NSD? It was common knowledge he was interviewing for another job before NSD so I would think if Alford was possibly going to go to OSU then that would have been news, as well. And as many have pointed out, Kelly did the exact same thing when he left Cincy and we are all hoping Denson will do the same thing to USF. How is Alford such a bad guy if we are ok with others doing it as long as it benefits ND?

Was Dexter suppose to know that Alford was going to leave after Stan Drayton took the Bears job a day after signing day?

 

[nsisk157]

Alford did his job until the day he left. In a normal setting, that would be admirable. Guys have to look out for themselves, and that's what Alford did. He never neglected his job here, even when he was looking elsewhere.

Bingo. Nothing but love for TA

 

[BeauBenken]

So would it have been better if he had told Dexter that he wasn't going to be here next year and Dexter chose not to come to ND because of that? I realize that would be an honorable thing to do but wouldn't ND fans be pissed that Alford didn't do his best to close out this class before he left? And who is to say he knew before NSD? It was common knowledge he was interviewing for another job before NSD so I would think if Alford was possibly going to go to OSU then that would have been news, as well. And as many have pointed out, Kelly did the exact same thing when he left Cincy and we are all hoping Denson will do the same thing to USF. How is Alford such a bad guy if we are ok with others doing it as long as it benefits ND?

C'mon, dude. We had managed to stop this debate two days ago.

 

[ulukinatme]

Injured, do not want

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[tko]

Das Boot

 

[ACamp1900]

Injured,

Clearly a RKG... ND all day.

 

[Irish#1]

Also, Alford was not "on the market" in the weeks leading up to Signing Day. Not after he didn't get the CSU job anyway. Then Ohio State's running backs coach left for a job with the Bears, announced on Signing Day or the day after. Then OSU went after Alford to replace him.
Alford played hard til the whistle for us and - while I get why Dexter Williams might be pissed - that's really all you can ask for.

Bottom line- Williams got hosed by the situation, but is making the right, mature decision by sticking around. I think that likely suggests Alford did a GREAT job of selling the school to him. Hard to be mad at the guy for that much.

+1

He's staying because he listened to what Alford sold him. An opportunity to play for a great school and get a better than average education.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dexter Williams may be the consistent big play RB that ND hasn't had in a long time <a href="http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE">http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE</a> <a href="http://t.co/BqYkeMZzRi">pic.twitter.com/BqYkeMZzRi</a></p>— One Foot Down (@OneFootDown) <a href="https://twitter.com/OneFootDown/status/566220297821749248">February 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Irish YJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dexter Williams may be the consistent big play RB that ND hasn't had in a long time <a href="http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE">http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE</a> <a href="http://t.co/BqYkeMZzRi">pic.twitter.com/BqYkeMZzRi</a></p>— One Foot Down (@OneFootDown) <a href="https://twitter.com/OneFootDown/status/566220297821749248">February 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Hoping the new OC, and new RBs coach will turn the run game up a couple notches. It will be interesting to see how the new coaching additions will impact both the running and passing games. I'd love to see GB blossom into the guy I thought he'd be. The outcome will tell us a lot about just how good some of our departed coaches really were.

 

[dublinirish]

Hoping the new OC, and new RBs coach will turn the run game up a couple notches. It will be interesting to see how the new coaching additions will impact both the running and passing games. I'd love to see GB blossom into the guy I thought he'd be. The outcome will tell us a lot about just how good some of our departed coaches really were.

greg bryant bursts off a 7 yard run vs texas = alford been holding him back all these years!

 

[ThePiombino]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dexter Williams may be the consistent big play RB that ND hasn't had in a long time <a href="http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE">http://t.co/VpI5tSwUXE</a> <a href="http://t.co/BqYkeMZzRi">pic.twitter.com/BqYkeMZzRi</a></p>— One Foot Down (@OneFootDown) <a href="https://twitter.com/OneFootDown/status/566220297821749248">February 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Wait. Is OFD suggesting that Wood was a consistent, big play back?

 

[Anchorman]

Wait. Is OFD suggesting that Wood was a consistent, big play back?

Nope, Julius Jones was their comparison.

 

[ThePiombino]

Nope, Julius Jones was their comparison.

Sweet, now THAT I can get behind. Possibly my favorite ND back of all time. Really enjoyed watching Jones play!

 

[ACamp1900]

Sweet, now THAT I can get behind. Possibly my favorite ND back of all time. Really enjoyed watching Jones play!

Ryan Grant!!!!!!! (Remember that madness??)