'15 IN S Mykelti Williams (Iowa Western Transfer)

[CarrollVermin]

The great posts continue with these two. You couldn't be more off base. Unreal.

You're a fool if you think that we are already deep and have quality depth across the board. Did you not watch the second half of our season? You can't compete when your potential all-american starter goes down and you have to bring a three star kid who is not ready for the field, on to the field.

Know what Saban replaces Collins with when he gets hurt? Another 5 star prospect that played in a competitive state against competitive competition. Don't think that matters...they are 12-1 and we are 7-5.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Off base how? You think you can take that line up and play it in the SEC? Hate to break it to you, but if you want to see a championship, you are going to have to go through that conference.

You can't sit there and bitch about losing to Northwestern or Louisville when your talent level is on par with them. You can't also be surprised when you lose to ASU and USC when they are so much better equipped. I don't know how these are off base.

Are you insane? The talent level isn't even close to NW, UL, or even ASU. ND recruits very well. This team was decimated by injuries and imo, quit against USC. That is not related to talent level. Last I checked, this team is one bad call away from being THE ONLY team to beat FSU in the last two years. You're on crack man. Take a breath and an enjoy the fact that ND just landed an athlete at a position of unbelievably great need.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

ND is no longer in a position to be picky. Kid is a solid recruit and based on the track record of Cali kids, I'll take this Indiana kid over those flake b/c I'm more confident this kid wants to be at ND.

Maybe the staff already does this but they need to lock in early on the 4-5 star DL/LB that are looking at a school like Stanford or Northwestern academics. Laugh all you want at NW but they've signed a few kids that ND wanted these past few years. Stanford is a no-brainer...gotta beat the Cardinal out for those few elite kids.

To think ND can just march down to the states of MS, LA, FL & AL and beat out all the southern schools for the top DL/LB is naive. Half of those kids can't qualify & all those kids want to play in the League sooner rather than later. Why do you think teams like LSU cry about losing 9-10 to the draft each year? It's not that they're all 1-3 round locks, it's that they've been told they can be drafted and want to cash out ASAP. You don't think most of those DL actually go to LSU and the like to get a degree do you? It's a platform for the NFL...nothing more.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

You're a fool if you think that we are already deep and have quality depth across the board. Did you not watch the second half of our season? You can't compete when your potential all-american starter goes down and you have to bring a three star kid who is not ready for the field, on to the field.

Know what Saban replaces Collins with when he gets hurt? Another 5 star prospect that played in a competitive state against competitive competition. Don't think that matters...they are 12-1 and we are 7-5.

Bowing out. You're on a completely new level of ignorance.

 

[NCND]

Are you insane? The talent level isn't even close to NW, UL, or even ASU. ND recruits very well. This team was decimated by injuries and imo, quit against USC. That has nothing to do with talent level. Last I checked, this team is one bad call away from being THE ONLY team to beat FSU in the last two years. You're on crack man. Take a breath and an enjoy the fact that ND just landed an athlete at a position of unbelievably great need.

Aub, NCST, BC, FLA, Clemson were close too. Just 2 name a few..

 

[Cali_domer]

Aub, NCST, BC, FLA, Clemson were close too. Just 2 name a few..

Lol, yeah that turned out not being that big of a deal.

After this season we're lucky to still be getting recruits .

 

[NCND]

Lol, yeah that turned out not being that big of a deal.

After this season we're lucky to still be getting recruits .

Totally agree. I'm thankful after looking like dog poo vs USC that ND is still getting quality recruits.

 

[IrishLax]

Mykelti Williams 2015 Highlights - Mykelti Williams highlights

WarPath - Mykelti Williams highlights

These two might both be senior highlights. A little confused myself. I wish kids would label their shit better.

The one was uploaded in September so it can't be senior film, right? The other is from November so it could potentially be senior film. You're right, not the best labeling... "WarPath" is not a year...

 

[jerboski]

Bowing out. You're on a completely new level of ignorance.

He raises a good point, I don't understand why it is so ignorant?

 

[IrishLax]

You're a fool if you think that we are already deep and have quality depth across the board. Did you not watch the second half of our season? You can't compete when your potential all-american starter goes down and you have to bring a three star kid who is not ready for the field, on to the field.

Know what Saban replaces Collins with when he gets hurt? Another 5 star prospect that played in a competitive state against competitive competition. Don't think that matters...they are 12-1 and we are 7-5.

This just isn't true though. Alabama had a 3 safety who started for multiple years for them. This year - like every year - they have a number of 3-stars and non-consensus 4-stars. Not every player you sign is going to be a "stud" and we're in a position at safety where you flat out need bodies right now.

 

[fitz_bu47]

The level of negativity and ignorance in this thread is unreal.

ND is not an SEC program, and it never will be (I hope). Brian Kelly has shown they can compete with the big boys while maintaining a program filled with kids who actually have to do some school work before they get to ND.

7-5 sucked, and I'm not trying to say we shouldn't be upset about it, but this years team had a lot of injuries, played a TON of young guys with a first year DC.

Kids like this are needed at every program. All of the successful programs in the country take kids like this, local, fired up to be there (tears in his eyes when told fam about offer-awesome) and develop them in to quality contributors. The only two programs I can think of that pretty much have all 4/5 star kids are Bama and USC. We have seen that doesn't guarantee success, but if you are going to compare ND to Bama while Saban is there you might as well save yourself the trouble and bang your face into a wall.

I am happy for this young man. ND needs him, and he wants to be there. I hope he proves all you "experts" wrong and has a great career. Speaking of that, I'll take the opinion/offer of our coaching staff over any internet has been/never was every day of the week.

I can go read the negative BS on all the other forums, we can be realistic and not blow smoke and at the same time not run a kid down. IE is better than that.

Go Irish, F LSU!
Hallelujah! Holy Sh!t! Where's the Tylenol?!?!
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everybody!

 

[BleedBlueGold]

He raises a good point, I don't understand why it is so ignorant?

Those two guys started off their griping by saying how pathetic Indy football is for one. They couldn't have been more wrong. They then continued to completely bash the commitment of a player who fills an immediate need on this team because of the insane amount of injuries that have occurred the past two seasons. News flash: The depth chart is riddled with 4 and 5 star players in the two-deep. But injuries surmounted and the staff was forced to play true freshmen, even if they weren't ready. At times, there were 9 or 10 underclassmen on the field at once for ND's defense, and eventhough they played like it, the games against ASU, UL, NW were all still in ND's reach. But yet for some reason, people can't look at the big picture and are ready to jump off a fucking cliff because a 3star kid from one of the biggest high schools in the state just committed to ND to play safety...a position that has literally two healthy players. You want to bitch about the staff and their recruiting, this isn't the area to do so. BK NOT filling spots at safety would be reason to gripe. Not this.

 

[FLDomer]

Name one two star kid we've ever had start for us.

Kyle Brindza.....just sayen

 

[jerboski]

Those two guys started off their griping by saying how pathetic Indy football is for one. They couldn't have been more wrong. They then continued to completely bash the commitment of a player who fills an immediate need on this team because of the insane amount of injuries that have occurred the past two seasons. News flash: The depth chart is riddled with 4 and 5 star players in the two-deep. But injuries surmounted and the staff was forced to play true freshmen, even if they weren't ready. At times, there were 9 or 10 underclassmen on the field at once for ND's defense, and eventhough they played like it, the games against ASU, UL, NW were all still in ND's reach. But yet for some reason, people can't look at the big picture and are ready to jump off a fucking cliff because a 3star kid from one of the biggest high schools in the state just committed to ND to play safety...a position that has literally two healthy players. You want to bitch about the staff and their recruiting, this isn't the area to do so. BK NOT filling spots at safety would be reason to gripe. Not this.

I think he is a good pickup and disagree with their argument against the competition in Indiana however I do agree that our depth is lacking and the player development has been abysmal .

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Hmm.

Ole Miss and Mississippi State both offered him and he was considered an Ole Miss lean at one point. But he cant play in the SEC....OK.

He is by far a superior prospect than Montrell Custis, but Custis will be playing the almighty SEC.

You guys are comparing things but not looking at the big picture.

Is Williams elite? No. Will he contribute to this team, yes.

But if you look across the board, a lot of kids committed to the "SEC Powers" are far worse prospects than Williams and you guys would complain more about them than Williams. So chill out.

Notre Dame got a good football player today.

Notre Dame needs more kids that will cry that they got offered by Notre Dame because that kid will give everything he has over the next 4-5 years in South Bend.

 

[Ironman8]

Hmm.

Ole Miss and Mississippi State both offered him and he was considered an Ole Miss lean at one point. But he cant play in the SEC....OK.

He is by far a superior prospect than Montrell Custis, but Custis will be playing the almighty SEC.

You guys are comparing things but not looking at the big picture.

Is Williams elite? No. Will he contribute to this team, yes.

But if you look across the board, a lot of kids committed to the "SEC Powers" are far worse prospects than Williams and you guys would complain more about them than Williams. So chill out.

Notre Dame got a good football player today.

Nicely done, TP.

 

[phillyirish]

I don't know how people can b*tch about any commit. We always struggle to have all the roster spots filled and I don't know too many other prospects who are likely to commit to us this class. Either way Williams is a decent prospect that is a welcomed addition to the class.

 

[NDPhilly]

Theres Max Redfield

then theres Mykeiti Williams




then theres 50 yards of crap



and then theres John Turner

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel aren't we?

People talk about competing with the SEC and wanting ND to be competitive in the national landscape. When you talk about losing games to Northwestern and Louisville, think of it because of recruiting like this.

Signing these kids shows how far ND is from being a major player in the real world of college football. Kid would never see the field at a majority of SEC schools.

Come on man. stop complaining and be happy that he is part of your favorite football team. And be happy for the kid himself.

Congrats Mykelti on joining the Notre Dame family.

 

[gkIrish]

Hmm.

Ole Miss and Mississippi State both offered him and he was considered an Ole Miss lean at one point. But he cant play in the SEC....OK.

He is by far a superior prospect than Montrell Custis, but Custis will be playing the almighty SEC.

You guys are comparing things but not looking at the big picture.

Is Williams elite? No. Will he contribute to this team, yes.

But if you look across the board, a lot of kids committed to the "SEC Powers" are far worse prospects than Williams and you guys would complain more about them than Williams. So chill out.

Notre Dame got a good football player today.

Notre Dame needs more kids that will cry that they got offered by Notre Dame because that kid will give everything he has over the next 4-5 years in South Bend.

I think the point is SEC powers can take fliers on kids like this considering they will just cut him next year if he doesn't pan out. ND won't do that because of the 4-yr scholly commitment. Nevertheless, the debate is whether we would rather have this kid or no prospect at all because we never have a full class. So sign me up.

 

[irish4ever]

The level of negativity and ignorance in this thread is unreal.

ND is not an SEC program, and it never will be (I hope). Brian Kelly has shown they can compete with the big boys while maintaining a program filled with kids who actually have to do some school work before they get to ND.

7-5 sucked, and I'm not trying to say we shouldn't be upset about it, but this years team had a lot of injuries, played a TON of young guys with a first year DC.

Kids like this are needed at every program. All of the successful programs in the country take kids like this, local, fired up to be there (tears in his eyes when told fam about offer-awesome) and develop them in to quality contributors. The only two programs I can think of that pretty much have all 4/5 star kids are Bama and USC. We have seen that doesn't guarantee success, but if you are going to compare ND to Bama while Saban is there you might as well save yourself the trouble and bang your face into a wall.

I am happy for this young man. ND needs him, and he wants to be there. I hope he proves all you "experts" wrong and has a great career. Speaking of that, I'll take the opinion/offer of our coaching staff over any internet has been/never was every day of the week.

I can go read the negative BS on all the other forums, we can be realistic and not blow smoke and at the same time not run a kid down. IE is better than that.

Go Irish, F LSU!
Hallelujah! Holy Sh!t! Where's the Tylenol?!?!
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everybody!

A kid like this will more than likely bring relentless work effort in order to get better and prove himself too. Hiopefully, others would feed off of that if nothing else, whihc helps the whole team. You have to admire the "want" to be part of this program!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Name one two star kid we've ever had start for us.

The only 2* recruit I remember even signing is Heggie.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

 

[Corry]

I don't know how people can b*tch about any commit. We always struggle to have all the roster spots filled and I don't know too many other prospects who are likely to commit to us this class. Either way Williams is a decent prospect that is a welcomed addition to the class.

I agree. It's always a good day when the Irish pick up a new player. The only issue I have, (which may be unfounded because I'm not sure about the numbers) is what 5th years place is this guy taking?

 

[BeauBenken]

Kyle Brindza.....just sayen

He was a composite 3 star.

The only 2* recruit I remember even signing is Heggie.

My point exactly.

You can't bitch about how we have two star players being more successful than four and five star players when we have only ever signed one and he never contributed.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Theres Max Redfield

then theres Mykeiti Williams




then theres 50 yards of crap



and then theres John Turner

Oh the five-star that has not nothing at Notre Dame in 2 years. Glad Notre Dame gets those 5-stars!

 

[calvegas04]

I agree. It's always a good day when the Irish pick up a new player. The only issue I have, (which may be unfounded because I'm not sure about the numbers) is what 5th years place is this guy taking?

heard he is taking Golsons spot

 

[FLDomer]

He was a composite 3 star.



My point exactly.

You can't bitch about how we have two star players being more successful than four and five star players when we have only ever signed one and he never contributed.

LOL, I was just going off rivals and tryen to mess with you.

 

[irish o'phile]

I dont get the hate. Its not like we offered some 1-2 star. He seems to be similarly ranked to McKinney and everyone seems to love him. This guy has some real good offers.

Louisville and ASU looked plenty athletic and they are filled with guys like this.

 

[WestCoast]

Oh the five-star that has not nothing at Notre Dame in 2 years. Glad Notre Dame gets those 5-stars!

Clearly the problem lies with those higher ranked players and has nothing to do with the coaching staff's player development. How did Kelly's handpicked 3-star QB fair this year? How did the 4-star that he couldn't develop do? Or how did the 5-star he mismanaged and sent packing do?