'14 IN WR Justin Brent (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre Dame FB player Justin Brent went on date w/porn star. Here's ND's sex section in code of conduct <a href="http://t.co/CYk6v4rzvs">pic.twitter.com/CYk6v4rzvs</a></p>— darren rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/525691487078854656">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Rovell is one of the worst people on Twitter.

And of all people...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell">@darrenrovell</a> dude, seriously?</p>— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/525692166946181120">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Also, saw this on MGoBlog, apologies if it's already been mentioned:

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Apparently she likes college football players.
 

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As the de facto resident "free love" hippie I'm with ya. There are matters of respect, accountability and good taste to be considered.

Silence, and discretion, are golden.

Hey if i was a recruit i'd be like "fuck yes, i'm going there".
 

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And of all people...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell">@darrenrovell</a> dude, seriously?</p>— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/525692166946181120">October 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Doug is just mad since someone stole his girl.....
 
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Its quite clear that Mike Huerman is the missing link here.....

#elephantintheroom.
 

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I don't really give a shit about him going out with her or whatever, just make sure she doesn't ever become a booster in any way. However, I think it was pretty stupid of Brent to post this on social media. He should have known it would go viral, and while it gets him some notoriety, why would you want your mother, aunts, grandmother, etc. knowing this kind of stuff? It just shows poor judgment. True, he's 18, but come on. They have so much training on social media at ND. I'm curious as to what the PR guys said to him when the tweet went up. I remember one of my friends on the team tweeting something profane jokingly to a friend and he was woken up at 2am being told to take it down.
 

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Comments from the Shag:

Lisa Ann stars in "how to give a golden Domer"
Looks like he won one for the Zipper.
Nothing to see here, she is his tutor... Biology I believe.
Lay like a champion today.
Looks like he isn't playing. In other words, his career is buffering
Dunno man, 1st date and all. Does she seem like the type to put out that quickly?
 

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Doubtful. ND has rarely prosecuted its students under that section of du Lac in recent years, likely due to how counter-cultural the Catholic Church is on this point. Then again, ND has never had to deal with photos of a high profile student athlete naked in bed with the world's most famous porn star. I hope they work with Brent to get a handle on this quickly, but this could end poorly for him.

The university still gets students with it, but they aren't as aggressive as BYU. BYU is like using the fundamental theorem of calculus to catch speeders; they believe evidence, such as pregnancy, is reason to get involved. ND only bothers when kids are stupid. The only time I heard about it in my residence hall was when someone used the common space--loudly and drunkenly---- after parietals. The RAs don't want to see it. The rector doesn't want to know about it. If you're discreet, there isn't a problem. I'm guessing anything related to JB on this point is not going to be on the honor code violation (barring a sex tape), but on him using social media in a negative way for the University.
 
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Doubtful. ND has rarely prosecuted its students under that section of du Lac in recent years, likely due to how counter-cultural the Catholic Church is on this point. Then again, ND has never had to deal with photos of a high profile student athlete naked in bed with the world's most famous porn star. I hope they work with Brent to get a handle on this quickly, but this could end poorly for him.

Gloria patri, when the Brent boy returns from his New York follies, his loins should be cinched with the Cord of Saint Joseph. But, does a braided cord with seven knots work? It might also require confinement in a cloister for the Saint Joseph purity cincture to work its wonders in this day and age.
 

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Doubtful. ND has rarely prosecuted its students under that section of du Lac in recent years, likely due to how counter-cultural the Catholic Church is on this point.

This. It exists because it has to because ND is a Catholic school. I'm pretty sure you'd find something similar in the code of conduct for mot every Catholic school in the country.

It's only "prosecuted" when it impacts life in the on-campus housing (i.e. someone caught red handed during parietals, someone getting pregnant, etc.) or if someone where to do something egregious (i.e. become a sex worker like that girl at Duke... ND reserves the right to kick you out of school).

Then again, ND has never had to deal with photos of a high profile student athlete naked in bed with the world's most famous porn star. I hope they work with Brent to get a handle on this quickly, but this could end poorly for him.

Wait, what? This is a thing?
 

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No one has responded to my sort of serious hot take...

Would anyone have the same reaction if Brent was in the exact same pictures with Jennifer Aniston instead of a porn star?

The answer is no.
 
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I hate to say it guys but Belle Knox, the girl referenced by Lax is quoted by Lisa Ann in her twitter feed for making it rain 19year old boys....

Correction: 19 year olds.
 
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No one has responded to my sort of serious hot take...

Would anyone have the same reaction if Brent was in the exact same pictures with Jennifer Aniston instead of a porn star?

The answer is no.

yea....so what's your point?
 

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Not sure if it's already been said, but IIRC we had a player who had a child born during our season and nothing happened with Du Lac as far as I know. Davonte Neal also had a kid. Personally, you can assume they had sex given the nature of the picture, but there isn't a video of him or anything to provide concrete evidence of him smashing. I don't think they'll get him into any serious trouble, but they do need to tell him to chill out for a bit.
 

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Against my better judgement, one last post on this [to me] fiasco:

For me this isn't about whether young Justin has the right to do this, or if this is "the 21st century" so "get with it", This is about Notre Dame and Notre Dame football, which is why, I believe, this site exists and why I read and post here.

So, NOT focussing on young Justin's Rights as an American, but rather on whether this "activity" is a plus for the team and University, I say that I wish that at least the publicity of this [rather bizarre] episode never happened.

Does anyone actually believe that Kelly [to say nothing of Jenkins or Swarbrick] LIKES that this is being spewed all over the place? Does anyone REALLY believe that this makes Alford's, Kelly's, BVGs job easier in the family room?

I'm about seeing us build the world's best college football team, while maintaining bragging rights to having the classiest academic institution. The college football scene needs some examples of powerful success with class --- frankly so does America.
 

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Who cares guys lol. I can promise you Justin isn't dating this girl because no one date a porn star he probably just had a excellent few days of great sex and we will probably never see her again with Justin. I saw someone on twitter today saying Brian Kelly should tell Justin Brent he can either go to ND and play football or not go to ND and just date porn stars. I am impressed with Heuerman hitting that as well. I think secretly Mike gets the post pussy on the team. Him or Connor Cavalaris
 
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Cant embed but here is the tweet from Lisa Ann

Again i blame @belle_knox Since she has become such a big part of my life, it is raining 19Year Olds.. The Year of 1995.... lol
 

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The point is this is a non-issue. People are overreacting because of the chosen profession of the person he is with. Who the hell cares.

PREACH ON BROTHA MAN. Let me get you a beer, actually let me bless you with some beer
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The point is this is a non-issue. People are overreacting because of the chosen profession of the person he is with. Who the hell cares.

As OMM pointed out, it is only a issue b/c of who he represents. Since that institution represents everything contrary to what she does, it becomes a PR issue.

Is it fair....no.
 

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My response is the same. I have a morbid interest in the sexual vice industry, and have read a fair amount about it.



I'm with OMM, Rack and greyhammer. When this was just a TMZ story about their date at the Knick's game, it could be shrugged off with a wink and a chuckle. Now that there's a naked selfie of them in bed together, it may be reaching a point where ND has to take action. Not good for either the University or Justin.

Yesterday I was thinking about the odd power dynamics at work here. The vast majority of commercial sex workers were sexually abused as children, and hard drug use is rampant among them. It's a very exploitative industry. But between Justin and Lisa, the normal power dynamic is reversed-- she's 42, wealthy, and famous, while he's just a 19-year-old college freshman with a bright future in football. The fact that Lisa seems to seek out young athletes like Justin makes me wonder if she just enjoys the reversal, or whether she's just doing it for publicity. Either way, Justin is likely being used.

Which is fine, as far as it goes. But this is not the sort of publicity the University wants or needs. Fortunately, if Justin decides this isn't how he wants to present himself to the world (or that he wants to represent his University better), he can easily pass it off as a poor testosterone-fueled decision made a young man who was dazzled by the fame and beauty of an older woman. It happens all the time with powerful older men and young impressionable women. Can't see why it wouldn't be forgiven here for the same reason.

And for those of you who are inclined to blow this off, I would be very surprised if this isn't somehow a violation of du Lac. There's surely some broad language in it about scandalizing the University, regardless of where such action occurs. So if the administration comes to the conclusion that Justin's recent actions reflect poorly on the school, I doubt the fact that this happened in another state or that Justin himself didn't post the photos will make much difference.

This is it in a nutshell. He may follow porn stars of FB or Twitter, but 19 year old's don't normally meet porn stars then start dating them. The fact that she's hooked up with others should tell you that she's the one initiating things. Then given her age and mileage, I would guess most guys her age would probably pass when it comes to her. Not a big demand for fading porn stars. Great publicity stunt for her to stay in the spotlight. Does anyone else think she looks a little like a guy in the pic where she has no makeup on and JB is asleep?
 

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Why would ND care who Justin Brent spent a weekend in New York with? No one would of had a clue if this didn't hit instagram. So not sure why ND would care? It's not like Justin did anything wrong.
 

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Does anyone actually believe that Kelly [to say nothing of Jenkins or Swarbrick] LIKES that this is being spewed all over the place? Does anyone REALLY believe that this makes Alford's, Kelly's, BVGs job easier in the family room?

Pretty sure Kelly is losing more sleep over all of the kids getting kicked out of school every year, or perhaps that ND has a continual problem with top recruits transferring. Kelly likely saw this, called Brent an idiot to his staff, maybe sent him a text, and moved on with his day.

The personal decisions of one 18 year Freshman will have no impact on Kelly's ability to recruit.


I'm about seeing us build the world's best college football team, while maintaining bragging rights to having the classiest academic institution. The college football scene needs some examples of powerful success with class --- frankly so does America.

Not sure how JB's decisions impact ND's status as an academic institution. Bad personal decision? Debatable, I wouldn't have done that. But that is a far cry from the UNCs, FSUs, and OKSts of the world.
 
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