'15 CA WR Equanimeous St. Brown (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[NDdomer2]

It was never 25 and sleeting. Not during the game. It was exactly like the weather report had it all week, low to mid 40's with 90% rain and 17mph winds. They were right on the money. lol

Notre dame stadium announcer said 38 rain with w.c. of 32. @ start of game bro. It didn't get warmer.

 

[woolybug25]

Notre dame stadium announcer said 38 rain with w.c. of 32. @ start of game bro. It didn't get warmer.

There is a big difference from 25 and sleeting to 32 (including the windchill, which is BS considering you are inside a stadium) and rain. Also, according to weather.com, Weatherbug.com and the local news... the low was 39, which it hit somewhere between 10pm-12am. I heard him too... but he was incorrect and it never sleeted during the game.

Again... that was the weather report pretty much all week. It wasn't a surprise.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

It snowed and sleeted long before kickoff. During the game was all rain. Doesn't make it any less tolerable. The conditions sucked. Plain and simple.

 

[koonja]

IT sleeted for like 2 minutes. I was there at 11 am and that's all that happened.

 

[tko]

Let's debate for 4 pages.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

 

[yankeeND]

I don't care what this kid is rated at. WANT!

 

[BobbyMac]

What a great recruiting tool weather like that is...

I'd have a poster board with ESB's face photoshopped into his ND jersey holding the NC trophy and then one with his face photoshopped onto a Patriots jersey, holding the NFL MVP trophy - in the snow.

Impress upon every player that they are going to play in these conditions every season for the rest of their college and pro careers.

ESB had to look at Robinson and see what's possible for him in South Bend. Same skill set and physical tools. Hope he had a chance to talk with CR... and his Dad (for a little wow factor).

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[Irish.Ca]

It rained almost all Friday night. Thursday night too for that matter. That allowed the rain to break from about 9 am till some very light rain began again at 230. The recruits had a beautiful day at the stadium minus the game weather when half fled for home after the second quarter. I don't know how the place was so loud but the atmosphere was rocking. Must have been crazy train and sandstorm. Tiks were $50 due to the rain, so the brave were rewarded.

 

[NDdomer2]

so i guess no wind can get in a non covered stadium...

looks like i'll have to download a new weather app, and when it asks for reasons why im removing: "incorrect tempatures provided."

regardless, I felt the crowd that stuck around was still into the game and prooved to be a solid stadium atmosphere throughout. If i was a recruit thats what I think my takeaway would be.

 

[ryno 24]

ESB has more pure talent than Robinson. Robinson may be a little taller, but not near as fluid as ESB. ESB is already probably stronger as well.

 

[ACamp1900]

What I learned from the last couple pages... Steve Carell used to do weather in Scotland, and everyone hates Redbar now...

 

[Luckylucci]

ESB has more pure talent than Robinson. Robinson may be a little taller, but not near as fluid as ESB. ESB is already probably stronger as well.

I agree in respect to his overall athleticism and fluidity. However, the one thing Robinson has, sans saturdays drops (weather related), is elite and I mean elite ball skills. I'm not sure there are many WR's that come out of HS that have quite the level of ball skills that Robinson came in with.

 

[Irishman77]

I would take Robinson this year and the next two over any current high school senior wr

 

[connor_in]

Pretty sure we lose out on ESB because no one here listed the Barometric Pressure during the game!

 

[irishog77]

What I learned from the last couple pages... Steve Carell used to do weather in Scotland, and everyone hates Redbar now...

This. I want that portion of my life back.

 

[ryno 24]

I agree in respect to his overall athleticism and fluidity. However, the one thing Robinson has, sans saturdays drops (weather related), is elite and I mean elite ball skills. I'm not sure there are many WR's that come out of HS that have quite the level of ball skills that Robinson came in with.

I agree but that is a niche receiver skill which is great particularly around the red zone but he is an awkward route runner and not at making cuts and getting in and out of breaks nor is his speed great.

 

[Domina Nostra]

To me, ESB seems more talented, but I really can't see a scenario where Robinson is not basically an absolute terror for opposing defenses as a fully developed senior.

I'd stick with the bird in hand if I had to chose, but I think ESB is going to be a BEAST.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I'm asking because I really don't know:

How many times this season has ND been in the redzone and lined up Koyack, CRob, etc and threw a jump ball to them? IIRC, the corner balls have been thrown to Fuller. Doesn't make sense to me w/ the amount of height BK has on that roster. Has Smythe made any red zone appearances? If ND lands this kid, I think BK needs to make these taller kids be a go-to target in the redzone. Maybe I'm off base and he has and I just havent noticed it much.

 

[Legacy93]

I'm asking because I really don't know:

How many times this season has ND been in the redzone and lined up Koyack, CRob, etc and threw a jump ball to them? IIRC, the corner balls have been thrown to Fuller. Doesn't make sense to me w/ the amount of height BK has on that roster. Has Smythe made any red zone appearances? If ND lands this kid, I think BK needs to make these taller kids be a go-to target in the redzone. Maybe I'm off base and he has and I just havent noticed it much.

The only true jump ball that has been thrown in the red zone was to Robinson IIRC. All the throws to Fuller that you are thinking of, where he goes up and grabs it in the corner of the end zone are all corner routes from deeper on the field.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The only true jump ball that has been thrown in the red zone was to Robinson IIRC. All the throws to Fuller that you are thinking of, where he goes up and grabs it in the corner of the end zone are all corner routes from deeper on the field.

Doesn't it make sense to put a taller WR in that position though? Not that Fuller isn't good enough to make the catch, but it just seems like better odds when you have a 6'5" WR jumping up for that ball over a 6' WR.

I've seen people have an orgasm over the thought of lining up every tall TE/WR we have on the field at once, yet I can't recall that happening one time. Maybe it has and I missed it.

 

[woolybug25]

The only true jump ball that has been thrown in the red zone was to Robinson IIRC. All the throws to Fuller that you are thinking of, where he goes up and grabs it in the corner of the end zone are all corner routes from deeper on the field.

I'm not really sure that we have had to. We stunk in the red zone over the last few years and are 86.36% on the year this season.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm not really sure that we have had to. We stunk in the red zone over the last few years and are 86.36% on the year this season.

Hear, hear.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Hear, hear.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I agree. I was just asking because in this situation, we're talking about another tall WR possibly joining others and the topic always comes up when daydreaming about that matchup against smaller DBs.

 

[Legacy93]

Doesn't it make sense to put a taller WR in that position though? Not that Fuller isn't good enough to make the catch, but it just seems like better odds when you have a 6'5" WR jumping up for that ball over a 6' WR.

I've seen people have an orgasm over the thought of lining up every tall TE/WR we have on the field at once, yet I can't recall that happening one time. Maybe it has and I missed it.

I would agree with you that it would be better to have someone 6'5" making that catch rather than someone 6' with all else being the same. To be quite honest, I think Fuller gets those throws because he can create really great separation on deep corner routes. His speed allows for a higher percentage throw than if it were to Corey. If Corey had Will's speed, you'd see Corey get those throws more often I'd guess.

To your second point, we never have done that and we haven't had a need to. Also, generally, the different skills sets b/w say Amir and Corey allows for us to shift alignments around and create more mismatches than if we just went with the tallest receivers on the team.

 

[Legacy93]

I'm not really sure that we have had to. We stunk in the red zone over the last few years and are 86.36% on the year this season.

Absolutely agree, I just wanted to clarify that a lot of the perceived jump-ball routes in the corner of the end zone weren't that at all, but rather deep corner routes and that there was only one play where we've thrown a ball up to Corey (against 'Cuse). But yeah, I totally agree that we have had no need to go to throwing the ball up for grabs.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm not really sure that we have had to. We stunk in the red zone over the last few years and are 86.36% on the year this season.

To add on, the "fade" or "jump ball" inside the 10 is one of the lowest percentage plays out there for that situation. This is a proven and accepted statistic unless you have a complete mismatch (e.g. Calvin Johnson versus Nickell Robey). So there is no reason to run it unless you have a truly dominant pass catcher OR can't run other plays for some reason (i.e. limited QB, bad run blocking OL, etc.).

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Robinsons two TDs have been jump balls in the endzone.

 

[Redbar]

What I learned from the last couple pages... Steve Carell used to do weather in Scotland, and everyone hates Redbar now...

LMAO. Right, I am sorry, I will never worry/wonder aloud if what has been described as some of the worst weather conditions in recent memory may have negatively impacted a SoCal prospect, especially after he gave a rather flat response to the visit again. And I will see if "the Duke" will instruct me on the climatic differences between Bosco and Servite HS's.

 

[BobbyMac]

LMAO. Right, I am sorry, I will never worry/wonder aloud if what has been described as some of the worst weather conditions in recent memory may have negatively impacted a SoCal prospect, especially after he gave a rather flat response to the visit again. And I will see if "the Duke" will instruct me on the climatic differences between Bosco and Servite HS's.

The difference between Bosco and Servite are minimal as you know. The school with the problem is Mater Dei. Even though they are only a few miles from the other two schools, they are the only one who have to deal with that horrible wind as they are in Santa Ana.

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