Oct 4 | Stanford

[T Town Tommy]

Looking that way. Two "bad" games, two wins by 16 points. Let that sink in, folks.

Gonna take a much better effort against Stanford though.

And I do think the Irish will beat Stanford. But putting the ball on the ground or throwing to their DBs will result in a loss. Can't do that. The OL is gonna have to bow up this week and at least get enough push to run the ball enough to keep Stanford honest. To me, that's the key in the game. Run the ball effectively, win the game. Struggle running and all bets are off.

 

[koonja]

I hope to see a lot of rollouts with Golson.

 

[ThePiombino]

Gonna take a much better effort against Stanford though.

And I do think the Irish will beat Stanford. But putting the ball on the ground or throwing to their DBs will result in a loss. Can't do that. The OL is gonna have to bow up this week and at least get enough push to run the ball enough to keep Stanford honest. To me, that's the key in the game. Run the ball effectively, win the game. Struggle running and all bets are off.

I'm not talking about Stanford. I'm replying to the previous post about how ND, in the past, has not faired so well in similar down performances. Bottom line is the team's low mark has been raised.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I'm not talking about Stanford. I'm replying to the previous post about how ND, in the past, has not faired so well in similar down performances. Bottom line is the team's low mark has been raised.

Agree. My response was simply referencing their turnovers against SU. Any time you turn it over that much and still walk away with a double digit win, it's a good thing. If anything, it should make EG a better QB moving forward. He will learn a lot in film this week about how he makes or breaks the Irish offense.

 

[rocket66]

Some of the intangibles such as Stanford on the road for the second straight week, and the fact they played a tough game last week, coupled with ND being healthier than they have all year makes me like our chances.
Can't wait to see an offense that might have Daniels, Hunter, Fuller, and Carlisle playing and taking reps.

 

[NDohio]

Looking that way. Two "bad" games, two wins by 16 points. Let that sink in, folks.

It is really encouraging. There is no way that in previous years we could have had five TOs in one game and never feel threatened.

I am also OK with having a bad game right before Stanford. It really gives the coaches the opportunity to get everyone dialed in for the week. A little extra focus based on not playing up to the new ND standards.

Timber!!

 

[koonja]

It is really encouraging. There is no way that in previous years we could have had five TOs in one game and never feel threatened.

I am also OK with having a bad game right before Stanford. It really gives the coaches the opportunity to get everyone dialed in for the week. A little extra focus based on not playing up to the new ND standards.

Timber!!

That reminded me of the song 'it's going down. I'm yelling timber!!!!'

I hope they play that before 3rd and long in the 4th when we are winning. I will LOL.

 

[ThePiombino]

Some of the intangibles such as Stanford on the road for the second straight week, and the fact they played a tough game last week, coupled with ND being healthier than they have all year makes me like our chances.
Can't wait to see an offense that might have Daniels, Hunter, Fuller, and Carlisle playing and taking reps.

Agreed, and not to beat a VERY dead horse, but I would feel a lot better if we were playing five more scholarships players. I think this is the 1st game in which their loss could truly affect the outcome of the game.

It is really encouraging. There is no way that in previous years we could have had five TOs in one game and never feel threatened.

I am also OK with having a bad game right before Stanford. It really gives the coaches the opportunity to get everyone dialed in for the week. A little extra focus based on not playing up to the new ND standards.

Timber!!

A thousand times yes!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Heading into the Stanford game, ND is ranked 8th nationally in Points Per Drive:

Points Per Drive data are a function of all offensive possessions in FBS vs. FBS games in the given season, excluding first-half clock kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores. Teams are ranked by net points scored per drive (NPPD), the difference between points scored per offensive drive (OPPD) and points allowed per opponent offensive drive (DPPD).

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</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.78</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.97</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">7</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Marshall</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.70</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.76</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.06</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">13</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Alabama</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.68</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.71</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">11</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Mississippi</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.51</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">19</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.51</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Nebraska</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.45</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.67</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.22</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">18</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Oklahoma</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.35</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.35</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.00</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">9</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Notre Dame</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.31</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">17</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.79</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">5</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Texas A&M</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.26</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.90</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.64</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">36</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Michigan State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.95</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.76</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.82</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">51</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">11</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Ohio State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.82</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.44</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.62</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">34</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">12</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Mississippi State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.79</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.74</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">29</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.95</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">6</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">13</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Oregon</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.78</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.81</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">63</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">14</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Auburn</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.65</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">16</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.44</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">26</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">15</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Wisconsin</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.62</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">18</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.41</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">22</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;">
</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center" height="17" width="40">Rk</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left" width="140">Team</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center" width="40">Rec</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right" width="40">NPPD</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" width="20">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right" width="45">OPPD</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center" width="40">Rk</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" width="10">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right" width="45">DPPD</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center" width="40">Rk</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">16</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">BYU</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.29</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.82</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">28</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.53</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">28</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">17</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Stanford</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.25</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.93</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">75</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.68</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">18</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Georgia</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.25</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.23</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">11</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.98</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">61</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">19</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Kansas State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.24</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.84</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">27</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.60</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">31</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">20</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">USC</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.23</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.66</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">32</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.43</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">24</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">21</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">LSU</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.19</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.46</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">42</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.27</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">19</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">22</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Duke</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.17</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.32</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">49</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.15</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">16</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">23</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Utah</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.03</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">70</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.00</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">10</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">24</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">North Carolina State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.93</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.72</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.79</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">100</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">25</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Georgia Southern</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2-2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.91</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.86</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">26</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.95</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">59</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">26</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Missouri</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.90</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.51</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">39</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.61</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">32</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">27</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Penn State</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.90</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.88</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">78</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.98</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">8</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">28</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Arizona</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.86</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.96</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">22</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">66</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">29</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Maryland</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.84</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">2.19</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">58</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.35</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">21</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">30</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Louisville</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3-1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.84</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.60</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">96</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.76</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">4</td></tr></tbody></table>

And here are our Game Splits through Week 4:

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</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">Off</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">Def</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">ST</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">Ex</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
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</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">+TO</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-TO</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">NTO</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">AY</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">OAY</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Rice</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 48-17</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 38-10</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">21.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">4.8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">1.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">21.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">14.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">6.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.663</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.335</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Michigan</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 31-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 31-0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">13.9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">12.1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">7.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-1.9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">19.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">12.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">6.8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">10.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">10.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.551</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.303</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">3</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Purdue</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 30-14</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 30-14</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">7.5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">5.2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.3</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">19.1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">20.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-1.6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">10.4</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">3.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">6.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.500</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.406</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">5</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="left">Syracuse</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 31-15</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">W 31-15</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">8.2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">7.3</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">19.8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">22.8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-3.1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">4.1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">19.9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-15.8</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.579</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">0.493</td></tr><tr><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">51.2</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">22.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">19.0</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">-1.9</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">79.4</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">70.7</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">8.6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="center">
</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">28.1</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">23.6</td><td style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; background: transparent;" align="right">4.5</td></tr></tbody></table>

Check out the value our ST is generating. First time we've seen that in the Kelly era. Also, virtually all of Syracuse's points came off our TOs. Had we played clean, they probably wouldn't have scored at all (and we would have scored 50+).

 

[rocket66]

Are the home games still aired live on the watch NBC app? I'll be at a function on Saturday and want to watch this baby on my phone.

 

[IrishLax]

Not exactly. Vegas thinks the PUBLIC thinks that Stanford is four points better than Notre Dame. The point spread is not Vegas's prediction of the result, it's the book makers trying to ensure equal betting on both sides.

Fundamental misunderstanding of predictive value of Vegas.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Heading into the Stanford game, ND is ranked 8th nationally in Points Per Drive:

And here are our Game Splits through Week 4:



Check out the value our ST is generating. First time we've seen that in the Kelly era. Also, virtually all of Syracuse's points came off our TOs. Had we played clean, they probably wouldn't have scored at all (and we would have scored 50+).

My read on that is that their offense is inept in the red zone and their defense has been better than ours (if you look at it statistically). So, you have to hope that the light doesn't suddenly go on for them this week in the red zone and that we are able to create a short field against them. If it comes to it, there are few teams in the country that would go 75 yards to win the game against them. We will have to create with special teams and turnovers.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Are the home games still aired live on the watch NBC app? I'll be at a function on Saturday and want to watch this baby on my phone.

They sure are.

 

[Emcee77]

Fundamental misunderstanding of predictive value of Vegas.

Wait, whose? What wizards said is correct, is it not?

 

[IrishLax]

My read on that is that their offense is inept in the red zone and their defense has been better than ours (if you look at it statistically). So, you have to hope that the light doesn't suddenly go on for them this week in the red zone and that we are able to create a short field against them. If it comes to it, there are few teams in the country that would go 75 yards to win the game against them. We will have to create with special teams and turnovers.

My feeling is the light does go on for them and they score on some big plays without needing to get into the red zone. Hogan is meh but he's better than Hunt and they have a better line to give him time and Montgomery will be the first WR that can consistently win 1v1 matchups against our corners.

Stanford - 31
ND - 21

Then again, I picked Syracuse and was nervous about Michigan soooooo.......

 

[koonja]

My feeling is the light does go on for them and they score on some big plays without needing to get into the red zone. Hogan is meh but he's better than Hunt and they have a better line to give him time and Montgomery will be the first WR that can consistently win 1v1 matchups against our corners.

Stanford - 31
ND - 21

Then again, I picked Syracuse and was nervous about Michigan soooooo.......

I'd be surprised if there's only one field goal since both defenses will have an advantage in the redzone IMO. IDK much about Stanford's kicker other than he doesn't kick far on kickoffs. I'm hoping he sucks.

 

[ryno 24]

I feel good about this matchup. This is the first game our young guys will be really emotionally up for since Michigan. I also think Golson will pick on their secondary. We need to run for 80 yards. I really think we can score on almost anybody. I also think our dbs are exceptional. I think our pass rush will be good enough.

 

[rocket66]

They sure are.

Awesome, thanks! I didn't see it on the schedule for Saturday through the app so I wanted to check. Appreciate it.

 

[woolybug25]

My feeling is the light does go on for them and they score on some big plays without needing to get into the red zone. Hogan is meh but he's better than Hunt and they have a better line to give him time and Montgomery will be the first WR that can consistently win 1v1 matchups against our corners.

Stanford - 31
ND - 21

Then again, I picked Syracuse and was nervous about Michigan soooooo.......

Call me crazy, but I actually think Hunt is better than Hogan. He just plays on a far less talented team.

 

[IrishLax]

Wait, whose? What wizards said is correct, is it not?

Individual Vegas books set lines according to a lot of principles... sometimes to induce even betting, other times not so much. Initial lines are almost always closer to a "prediction" of the score than any kind of giant social psychology experiment.

There are MANY times where Vegas lets the money go heavy one sided. And there have been stretches where Vegas has taken a "bath" depending on certain results. Implying that the set odds are merely a reflection of balancing public betting is a common misconception of how bookmaking is done.

But in general I was commenting on the fact that over time all teams are basically .500 ATS meaning that if half the time you cover and the other half the time you don't then it's inherently VERY predictive... and there are standard money line (outright win odds) conversion from all standard point spreads that only fluctuate slightly depending on the game. The money line is the pure predicted odds of winning once you take out the juice... so it's incredibly erroneous to say that Vegas isn't predictive.

 

[Emcee77]

Individual Vegas books set lines according to a lot of principles... sometimes to induce even betting, other times not so much. Initial lines are almost always closer to a "prediction" of the score than any kind of giant social psychology experiment.

There are MANY times where Vegas lets the money go heavy one sided. And there have been stretches where Vegas has taken a "bath" depending on certain results. Implying that the set odds are merely a reflection of balancing public betting is a common misconception of how bookmaking is done.

But in general I was commenting on the fact that over time all teams are basically .500 ATS meaning that if half the time you cover and the other half the time you don't then it's inherently VERY predictive... and there are standard money line (outright win odds) conversion from all standard point spreads that only fluctuate slightly depending on the game. The money line is the pure predicted odds of winning once you take out the juice... so it's incredibly erroneous to say that Vegas isn't predictive.

I don't think anyone was saying that the line isn't essentially a fair prediction of what will happen in the game, but I certainly did think that the line was always intended primarily to ensure even betting. Very interesting to learn that that isn't the case. Thanks for the info.

 

[Cali_domer]

Just glad this is a 12:30 start(PST)!!!!

 

[GoIrish41]

Call me crazy, but I actually think Hunt is better than Hogan. He just plays on a far less talented team.

Agree with you on Hunt and Hogan, but your second point is the critical one. Neither of those QBs were going to determine the outcome of their respective games against ND by themselves. I think our fronts on both sides of the ball will determine if we are going to win or lose against Stanford. I think we have some stuff to tighten up on both sides of the ball, especially the OL. If they can pull together as a unit and get a little push now and again, they will keep Stanford's defense honest and give Golson some room to work.

 

[IrishLax]

I don't think anyone was saying that the line isn't essentially a fair prediction of what will happen in the game, but I certainly did think that the line was always intended primarily to ensure even betting. Very interesting to learn that that isn't the case. Thanks for the info.

Small glimpse into the nuances of it all: Las Vegas sports books tell of 'staggering' hit from NFL season - Los Angeles Times

It's really fascinating stuff. Games don't occur in a vacuum and it's virtually impossible to set lines such that you'd incur even split betting across the board. So when oddsmakers huddle up and discuss opening lines, the question they are asking is "how much should this team be favored?" and they expect in the long run it'll work itself out... not "what line is most likely to drive even bets?"Online books have gotten better at managing their wagers and automating line movements to react to betting trends, but they're susceptible to a whole host of other exploitation from the bettors taking advantage of discrepancies and inefficiencies between different books.

 

[NCND]

Getting up on them early is the key. I just don't believe in Hogan yet. Force Stanford to pass the ball to win this game.

 

[GoIrish41]

Getting up on them early is the key. I just don't believe in Hogan yet. Force Stanford to pass the ball to win this game.

this

 

[Buster Bluth]

Fundamental misunderstanding of predictive value of Vegas.

No, it's simply what I meant by referring to Vegas.

 

[IrishLax]

No, it's simply what I meant by referring to Vegas.

Huh?

 

[Booslum31]

Do we know who is visiting this week for the Stanford Game. With Fla State and USC away this year it looks like our best home game remaining.

 

[koonja]

Do we know who is visiting this week for the Stanford Game. With Fla State and USC away this year it looks like our best home game remaining.

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