Coaches Poll Top 25 (ND #7)

[ickythump1225]

I think Stanford would struggle to finish third this season in the SEC West. I just don't see them as having that power run game or the outside threats to be as competitive as they would have been in years past. To compare them to an SEC West team, in past years they remind me of LSU, but without as many playmaking athletes.

I agree with your points about Stanford but I'm not sure where I would place them in the SECW because I'm not sure who I believe in, in that division. I buy Alabama because of Nick Saban. But Auburn...eh maybe. A&M, I'm not sure on. I'll reserve judgement on Ole Miss until after this Saturday. I don't think LSU is going to do much this year.

I will say that top to bottom that is one impressive division. There are no easy outs to be found. The east is one giant easy out, I don't buy a single team from that division. That UGA QB sucks and is going to end up costing them a few games. I think Mizzou may win that division by default.

 

[irishfan]

IMO these teams have a better resume than ND right now:

1) Oklahoma
2) Oregon
3) Bama
4) Florida State
5) A&M
6) Auburn
7) Miss State
8) UCLA (they have better wins, even if they were ugly)
9) ND

Can't really get a gauge on Baylor till they play someone of note. Ole Miss has looked like crap, they had 1-possession games in the 4th quarter against Boise and Memphis. I think Arkansas is better than Ole Miss. Ole Miss is ranked so high purely cause they're in the SEC. They'd be unranked at 4-0 if they were in the ACC. They'd be Georgia Tech.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I'd love to see Stanford play A&M. Stanford has a pretty good feel for defensively demolishing a spread offense.

Yeah, the voters minus the one from Michigan have been shockingly pro ND.

I personally dont think ND will go undefeated but I also dont think that UCLA, Baylor, Auburn, Oregon, or FSU will go undefeated either.

Oklahoma has a chance but they are also Oklahoma and you never know bc they will get into a few shootouts in the Big12.

Bama i think has the best chance to go undefeated bc they played almost as bad as ND played against Cuse' and still waxed Florida.

I think there will be a lot of 1 loss teams this year, so SOS could play a factor in the end finally.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I will update the Road to the Playoff thread tonight with some thoughts on some of the things mentioned in the past few posts. But my quick take here is that the true tests for ND lie ahead. We don't really know a ton about this team yet, but we will know enough after they play Stanford, ASU, FSU and USC to make a judgment. Either ND will have some really good wins on its resume come selection time, or they won't be anywhere near the conversation. Either way, it will take care of itself and to a large degree they control their own destiny.

 

[Pachuco]

Though Michigan was a MOST delicious victory, I agree with the camp that feels like our season truly starts this weekend with Stanford. Not the greatest opponent, but quality nonetheless. Our other opponents have varied from serviceable (Syracuse/Purdue), barely serviceable (Rice) to complete dumpster fire (Michigan).

 

[ND NYC]

some of you younger guys wont understand this and i dont expect that you would but i still can't get over the fact that ND now measures itself vs how we play...vs Stanford.

 

[Circa]

Isn't that the excuse we use every year. We are always saving it for Michigan. Then for USC. Then for.......

sure we do.... But I can guarantee none of us bloggers are the coach and he can see the plan...

 

[Circa]

some of you younger guys wont understand this and i dont expect that you would but i still can't get over the fact that ND now measures itself vs how we play...vs Stanford.

It Is odd but as real as It gets! I can't remember If It was 3 or 4 years ago but when the LB came over center before the snap (which wasn't called) and tackled Crist! I have hated them and took them for real

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

some of you younger guys wont understand this and i dont expect that you would but i still can't get over the fact that ND now measures itself vs how we play...vs Stanford.

If you are old enough that's not that out there. It's not like Stanford was a doormat for 120 years and then became good recently. They just sucked for a couple of decades post-Plunkett and post-Elway.

 

[irishog77]

If you are old enough that's not that out there. It's not like Stanford was a doormat for 120 years and then became good recently. They just sucked for a couple of decades post-Plunkett and post-Elway.

Huh? They sucked with Elway too.

Going back 50, 60 years Stanford has sucked a lot more than they have been good. Yeah they were pretty good for a few year stretch around Plunkett's time, but this is the golden era for Stanford football, well at least since Prohibition was all the rage.

Stanford, historically, is much more of a doormat than a power.

 

[phgreek]

some of you younger guys wont understand this and i dont expect that you would but i still can't get over the fact that ND now measures itself vs how we play...vs Stanford.

...with ya

there was a brief moment under Bill Walsh where they were meh, OK. But for a very long time they were Basically Duke.

 

[ulukinatme]

...with ya

there was a brief moment under Bill Walsh where they were meh, OK. But for a very long time they were Basically Duke.

Old Duke, or today's Duke?

 

[ulukinatme]

The rise of Stanford and UCLA has been great for undermining USC in the PAC-12. While the Cardinal and the Bruins have been strong, USC has struggled mightily along with their sanctions. While it sucks to play Stanford right now, I'd rather see them or UCLA be the premier power in Cali. Screw the Trojans.

 

[ickythump1225]

The rise of Stanford and UCLA has been great for undermining USC in the PAC-12. While the Cardinal and the Bruins have been strong, USC has struggled mightily along with their sanctions. While it sucks to play Stanford right now, I'd rather see them or UCLA be the premier power in Cali. Screw the Trojans.

Eh...for whatever reason I instinctively hate UCLA. Don't even know why. If we didn't play Stanford I wouldn't give them two thoughts.

 

[KPENN]

Tomorrow's Top 25 Today: Week 6 - CBSSports.com

5. Notre Dame (9). Gigantic late plays to beat Stanford in an uber-tense, grinding South Bend slugfest? It's looking more like the Irish's 2012 run to the national title game all over again.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

I think we get jumped by Ole Miss but still move up.

 

[Irish YJ]

It would not shock me if we get screwed and only move up 1. The pessimist in me thinks both Miss teams jump us, UCLA jumps us in the Coaches poll, and Bama only falls to 6 or 7.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Irish2155]

ND will be 5 or 6...depending what they do with UCLA

 

[NDALA]

It would not shock me if we get screwed and only move up 1. The pessimist in me thinks both Miss teams jump us, UCLA jumps us in the Coaches poll, and Bama only falls to 6 or 7.

I hope I'm wrong.

Unfortunately I could see that BS with all the SEC bias.

 

[phork]

SEC bias as every SEC team loses.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

It would not shock me if we get screwed and only move up 1. The pessimist in me thinks both Miss teams jump us, UCLA jumps us in the Coaches poll, and Bama only falls to 6 or 7.

I hope I'm wrong.

Doesn't matter. We'll be where we want to be if we beat F$U in two weeks.

 

[Irish YJ]

Doesn't matter. We'll be where we want to be if we beat F$U in two weeks.

Wouldn't be so sure. There are some other interesting matchups in the SEC that could keep others firmly in front of us. If we beat FSU, ESPN will say FSU were pretenders and haven't looked dominant this year like last. Sorry, hate ESPN.. and hate the SEC bias...

 

[NDALA]

Wouldn't be so sure. There are some other interesting matchups in the SEC that could keep others firmly in front of us. If we beat FSU, ESPN will say FSU were pretenders and haven't looked dominant this year like last. Sorry, hate ESPN.. and hate the SEC bias...

Amen, ESPN's deal with the SEC has really messed up college football in my opinion. They have the ability to control perception in order to benefit themselves. I mean if you rank 10 SEC teams in the top 25 and they only lose to each other and get chances to play highly ranked games against each other all season its no wonder they end up with so many highly ranked teams even after loses. I mean the probability of ending up with multiple top ranked teams is highly in their favor.

 

[wizards8507]

Amen, ESPN's deal with the SEC has really messed up college football in my opinion. They have the ability to control perception in order to benefit themselves.

ESPN has a deal with literally every single major conference. They actually have the WORST setup with the SEC, as CBS gets "dibs" on whatever they identify as the SEC Game of the Week. ESPN can drop whatever matchup they want in the ABC primetime slot EXCEPT for that SEC game. Also, if you look at the actual lineup for the SEC Network, none of those games are premiere matchups that will draw ratings beyond the schools' bases.

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm sorry but if we go undefeated we're in the pkayoffs , no doubt about it in my mind.

 

[woolybug25]

ESPN has a deal with literally every single major conference. They actually have the WORST setup with the SEC, as CBS gets "dibs" on whatever they identify as the SEC Game of the Week. ESPN can drop whatever matchup they want in the ABC primetime slot EXCEPT for that SEC game. Also, if you look at the actual lineup for the SEC Network, none of those games are premiere matchups that will draw ratings beyond the schools' bases.

Do your knees get sore working for ESPN? lol

ESPN has the biggest contract with any conference with the SEC, a $2.25 Billion dollar investment over 15 years. So you think the fact that CBS gets to poach one game a week changes the fact that ESPN has billions of dollars invested in the success of the SEC?

 

[Irish2155]

I'm sorry but if we go undefeated we're in the pkayoffs , no doubt about it in my mind.

Well duh. It's that one loss Irish team that is up for debate. Depends on who the loss is to, where happened and the end result.

We go undefeated into the USC game we may very well already be in the top 4. Especially if FSU beats the 'Cuse next week.

 

[koonja]

I've been on the 'ESPN doesn't leave us out' bandwagon for a long time.

But they refuse to acknowledge this win, lol. We make the snippets after Baylor vs. Texas, but all of the SEC games, you'd think the winning team just won world war 3 and their segments are significantly longer and spun in a more positive light.

It's been every analyst on every show/segment, too (outside of God Holtz).

ESPN hates us and is waiting for this team to slip. Our team can prove them wrong.

 

[NDALA]

ESPN has a deal with literally every single major conference. They actually have the WORST setup with the SEC, as CBS gets "dibs" on whatever they identify as the SEC Game of the Week. ESPN can drop whatever matchup they want in the ABC primetime slot EXCEPT for that SEC game. Also, if you look at the actual lineup for the SEC Network, none of those games are premiere matchups that will draw ratings beyond the schools' bases.

As I figured u'd be the only fool on here to argue ESPN isn't biased for the SEC when it's clear they are anyone can see that. So to you Golson sucks, field turf is stupid and ESPN is pro ND what else you got son? If you can't see that ESPN's major deal with the SEC hurts football as a whole ur insane.

 

[koonja]

If you don't see that ESPN is way overly dramatic in a positive way towards the SEC games and teams, there's no point in arguing.