'15 CA QB Travis Waller (Oregon Verbal)

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Even if they aren't top tier, we can sign guys who aren't necessarily scary additions to the depth chart, but they add more depth. Someone has to be Evan Sharpley, right?

If thats the route we have to go by missing on other guys then I'd just wait until fall and see how the everything shakes out with Golson, Malik, and Kizer. There is no reason to rush and grab a mid level QB right now. Also, if we are signing a QB just for depth purposes and not to be an impact player why not just bring in a PWO. All these What if's scenarios create interesting conversation and maybe one of them comes true but at this point we don't have a depth issue at QB and won't next year. We recruit for that. If during the season Malik is unhappy and looks to be transferring or Golson is looking like a lock for the draft. We'll address it then. No need to rush offers to mid level QB's right now, IMO.

I'll add this, right now we are recruiting our 4th string QB for next year and thats all we know right now. If that guy is somebody that can someday get us to the playoff, definitely take him. If not, no reason to rush it.
 
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That's basically irrelevant.

Tell me how Zaire plays for ND in 2014, and transfers in 2015 with the intent of seeing the field sooner? He'd have to sit out 2015, which is golsons final possible year anyways.

I'm coming into the argument a little late, but still what he said wasn't irrelevant. Just because Malik is tweeting this stuff doesn't mean he will stick and we are safe. I do feel he will and I agree it would be silly for him to transfer AFTER the season, but who's to say he doesn't pull a Demetrius Jones and just not show up for the second game and transfer, therefore being eligible in 2015???

I just find it silly that whenever you come up with your ifs and buts and whens and maybes they are totally plausible and you downright believe them, yet when someone else gives you a scenario, one that is more likely to happen, you write it off.
 

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You're all forgetting the chosen one, the son of the stache, the one who will save us in the dark times when we need it most:

MVG.
 
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I'm coming into the argument a little late, but still what he said wasn't irrelevant. Just because Malik is tweeting this stuff doesn't mean he will stick and we are safe. I do feel he will and I agree it would be silly for him to transfer AFTER the season, but who's to say he doesn't pull a Demetrius Jones and just not show up for the second game and transfer, therefore being eligible in 2015???

I just find it silly that whenever you come up with your ifs and buts and whens and maybes they are totally plausible and you downright believe them, yet when someone else gives you a scenario, one that is more likely to happen, you write it off.

I'm writing this one off because I don't see how it makessense for Malik to transfer after 2014.

If you think he's a risk to transfer right now or once the season starts, then it's a whole different story. Personally, I'm not worried about that at all with malik. If you are, then better pray for a qb this year.
 

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I'm writing this one off because I don't see how it makessense for Malik to transfer after 2014.

If you think he's a risk to transfer right now or once the season starts, then it's a whole different story. Personally, I'm not worried about that at all with malik. If you are, then better pray for a qb this year.

I never said I'm worried, I just gave you a scenario, just like you gave.
 
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I never said I'm worried, I just gave you a scenario, just like you gave.

Ok, but that scenario doesn't matter to me because I think it's very unlikely that Malik transfers given the situation.

I'm not telling anybody they're wrong for being worried if we don't get a 2015 QB, but personally, I won't be for the reasons above.
 

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None, but we're very high on the list of two elite 2016 QBs already, and Michigan and OSU both have their 2016 QB I believe, so some of our main competition would already be out of the way for 2016 QBs.

If we can get Malik Henry (know more after this weekend), IMO and probably the staff's, he's better than Waller.

When Waller (or 2016 QB) wouldn't be playing until 2018-ish anyways (assuming Malik starts over him with Kizer backing Malik up), I'd be fine with them passing in this class.

I see your point and I'm fine if they add Waller, but I think they're in a position to skip 2015 and really go after a 2016 one early.

You're right, though, if Kizer decided to transfer, we'd be in trouble. But I think getting Waller who's probably a little better than Kizer (although who really knows), would make Kizer more likely to transfer than if we left 2015 QB spot open.

Have you not been paying attention to recruiting the last few years?

We were in very good shape for a 2015 QB that committed, then said bye bye. Just because scUM and OSU have QB's doesn't mean they won't go after another. They may have one decommit. Take one every year. You never know what's going to happen.
 
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Have you not been paying attention to recruiting the last few years?

We were in very good shape for a 2015 QB that committed, then said bye bye. Just because scUM and OSU have QB's doesn't mean they won't go after another. They may have one decommit. Take one every year. You never know what's going to happen. decommit.

I have been paying attention.

But not every situation from year to year is the same, and I don't think we're screwed if we don't get a QB in 2015.

Not saying I'm right without a doubt, but that's my gut feeling.

If a 2015 QB is a necessity, I'd expect the staff to extend more offers than the few they have since Barnett decommitted.
 
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I have been paying attention.

But not every situation from year to year is the same, and I don't think we're screwed if we don't get a QB in 2015.

Sorry, idk what else to tell you, lol.

If a 2015 QB is a necessity, I'd expect the staff to extend more offers than the few they have since Barnett decommitted.

Fact is not a lot of QBs left that really fit the bill. Or, maybe ND is confident where they are with Waller. You need to get Waller on campus and get him sold quickly.

As far as a QB every year, I would say it is not always a necessity, but I would personally try to take one at least. In the current environment of lax transfer policies you never know when one will bolt on you leaving you thin.
 

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247 lists Denbrock and LaFleur as his recruiters.

And FWIW, I'm pretty sure BK called him with the offer.

I really don't care if we get this guy or not. I think his ratings will scare off 2016 QBs more than his skill level will, and I think 3 young, talented QBs that fit the system is a recipe for transfer.

Great if he comes, but if not, I can make the argument it sets us up better in the future. 2016 QBs >>> Waller IMO.

This really isn't accurate though, because when asked who he has been hearing from recently he mentioned Bob Elliot. No LaFleur, Denbrock, or Kelly. He also has yet to firm up a visit for early next week. I'm just saying, this whole thing seems odd. You'd think we'd be ramping up tons of contact and moving heaven + earth to ensure that he got on campus this weekend or next week.
 

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This really isn't accurate though, because when asked who he has been hearing from recently he mentioned Bob Elliot. No LaFleur, Denbrock, or Kelly. He also has yet to firm up a visit for early next week. I'm just saying, this whole thing seems odd. You'd think we'd be ramping up tons of contact and moving heaven + earth to ensure that he got on campus this weekend or next week.

I agree with you on this, I would be very surprised if Waller ends up being a part of this class. Doesn't feel like there is any traction between him and ND, the biggest thing to me was that the trip hasn't been decisively setup yet, I would guess if he was really interested in being Irish that he would have a set date planned to visit.
 
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This really isn't accurate though, because when asked who he has been hearing from recently he mentioned Bob Elliot. No LaFleur, Denbrock, or Kelly. He also has yet to firm up a visit for early next week. I'm just saying, this whole thing seems odd. You'd think we'd be ramping up tons of contact and moving heaven + earth to ensure that he got on campus this weekend or next week.

Agree. It does not appear to me that we are really pursuing anyone this cycle very hard right now. At least from my layman's perspective and the info I get from here.
 

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Shocked that not only didn't Hopkins scoop the offer, he was surprised by it.
 

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I would be pissed if I was Waller. It's like o finally I am good enough for you?

Go Irish Waller!
 

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Well, ND offered him just because of Barnetts decommit. It's the same, i guess.

We had a committed QB an weren't pursuing anyone. Oregon doesn't and has been. A lot of guys, actually. Not even close to the same.


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If waller was higher on our board than Blake we would have waited for Waller to give a commitment or told us we were wasting our time before we accepted Blake's commitment .... just so happens the staff was plenty happy with Barnett that there was no reason to recruit anyone else

Example say waller and Blake were even but there was a noticeable drop from tier 1 to those two and Towns was a perfect fit for our system, you don't think we'd chase after Towns before accepting a commitment from Blake or Waller? Of course we'd chase until it was futile.
 

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If waller was higher on our board than Blake we would have waited for Waller to give a commitment or told us we were wasting our time before we accepted Blake's commitment .... just so happens the staff was plenty happy with Barnett that there was no reason to recruit anyone else

Example say waller and Blake were even but there was a noticeable drop from tier 1 to those two and Towns was a perfect fit for our system, you don't think we'd chase after Towns before accepting a commitment from Blake or Waller? Of course we'd chase until it was futile.

Are you suggesting the staff believes there is a huge drop-off from Barnett to Waller? Personally I think the staffs near immediate offer tells us that they don't. They saw him as a viable option but Blake was already in the fold so you don't piss off your QB commit.
 

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Reportedly Hopkins in daily contact with Waller.

Waller hearing he is the perfect QB for the Oregon system.

What Hopkins told him, "the next Marriota."
 
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