'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

[vmgsf]

Sometimes I search Google News "Notre Dame" for news. If you type a "-" next to a word then results containing that word will be excluded. "Notre Dame -Barnett." No space after the "-."

 

[dublinirish]

Sometimes I search Google News "Notre Dame" for news. If you type a "-" next to a word then results containing that word will be excluded. "Notre Dame -Barnett." No space after the "-."

Positively Boolean there brah

 

[Wingman Ray]

I guess what really gets me is when these guys hoop and holler about academics this, 40 yr that and then go to places with the top 10 worst academic D1 schools like Bama. So really, it has nothing to do with what kind of, if any, education. Just about the shot pros.

And while Saban does put a lot of kids in the pros, a lot that he promised to go to the pros do not. His whole sales approach is pro feeder program. Then when they get hurt or he recruits a better player, they wind up with nothing. A degree from Bama MAY get you a job in the state of Alabama. Better not go anywhere else.

It is just the lack of character. I will be hugely surprised if this kid is anything but a scout team player being that Kiffen doesnt nor has ever, used a running QB. My bet Saban is just looking to refill the stables since two of the qb wised up to his bs and left this past year.

 

[dublinirish]

I guess what really gets me is when these guys hoop and holler about academics this, 40 yr that and then go to places with the top 10 worst academic D1 schools like Bama. So really, it has nothing to do with what kind of, if any, education. Just about the shot pros.

And while Saban does put a lot of kids in the pros, a lot that he promised to go to the pros do not. His whole sales approach is pro feeder program. Then when they get hurt or he recruits a better player, they wind up with nothing. A degree from Bama MAY get you a job in the state of Alabama. Better not go anywhere else.

It is just the lack of character. I will be hugely surprised if this kid is anything but a scout team player being that Kiffen doesnt nor has ever, used a running QB. My bet Saban is just looking to refill the stables since two of the qb wised up to his bs and left this past year.

you have to understand that "academics" means different things to different kids.
To some its getting a world class degree and being intellectually challenged
To others it means not being challenged/easy or non existing classes/tutors do the work for you and no pressure is put on to get good grades.

To a player who has eyes on going Pro going to Alabama of course the academics would be considered great because they aren't a distraction from playing football, the same player might consider the academics at ND to be terrible because of the pressure/difficulty of the coursework/work load

 

[Grahambo]

Why do some of you still hang on to what 17/18 year olds say about their college decisions, especially academics?

Sure, some mean it. Most don't. It's the same story year in and year out yet some of you still get bothered by this academic talk.


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[koonja]

Why do some of you still hang on to what 17/18 year olds say about their college decisions, especially academics?

Sure, some mean it. Most don't. It's the same story year in and year out yet some of you still get bothered by this academic talk.


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To add to that, I can't fault someone for saying these things, then choosing a childhood favorite.

If my parents are millionares and paying for my education would be chump change to them, and ND and Harvard want me to play football for them, I'm choosing ND every time.

 

[aubeirish]

I must say, it's a nice golf bag. Sorry Justin.

 

[tko]

I must say, it's a nice golf bag. Sorry Justin.

LOLOLOLOL

 

[Cackalacky]

Why do some of you still hang on to what 17/18 year olds say about their college decisions, especially academics?

Sure, some mean it. Most don't. It's the same story year in and year out yet some of you still get bothered by this academic talk.


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I agree. I have said several times that when a kid talks about academics, you can almost bet it is not what we think when it comes to ND level academics. I tune out as soon as I hear a recruit say, "yeah academics are important to me." Nah man....

 

[Grahambo]

I agree. I have said several times that when a kid talks about academics, you can almost bet it is not what we think when it comes to ND level academics. I tune out as soon as I hear a recruit say, "yeah academics are important to me." Nah man....

The day I let a 17/18 year kid dictate my mood for the day is the day my kids are that age. Doesn't matter what school they choose, they want to play in the NFL. If some want to take an easier path to the NFL and not be bogged down by education then who am I to stop them? Go for it. It's your one shot, go get it.

I hope he sticks with 'Bama because Hopkins.

 

[Irish#1]

I agree. I have said several times that when a kid talks about academics, you can almost bet it is not what we think when it comes to ND level academics. I tune out as soon as I hear a recruit say, "yeah academics are important to me." Nah man....

That's when you know they really aren't important to him.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

That's when you know they really aren't important to him.

More like, "Staying eligible is important to me."

 

[johnnycando]

This is a monster class for Bama,

They've had some good ones,but consistently closing on the studs is a testament to what a dominant team and great coach can deliver.

All bullshit aside, all "lower standards" aside, wow.

Now their offense is going to truly have potential to not only play possession football, but to quick strike. The mobility and arm of Barnett is gonna be a great asset for them.

Scary...

Poor poor ducks.

Roll toilet roll. (Fuckin Hood)

 

[TheTurningPoint]

The day I let a 17/18 year kid dictate my mood for the day is the day my kids are that age. Doesn't matter what school they choose, they want to play in the NFL. If some want to take an easier path to the NFL and not be bogged down by education then who am I to stop them? Go for it. It's your one shot, go get it.

I hope he sticks with 'Bama because Hopkins.

You have kids?

 

[GBdomer]

Found this just awesome

 

[Fbolt]

nice gif-reps

 

[Bishop2b5]

I agree. I have said several times that when a kid talks about academics, you can almost bet it is not what we think when it comes to ND level academics. I tune out as soon as I hear a recruit say, "yeah academics are important to me." Nah man....

So Barnett was bright enough and serious enough about academics in HS to qualify for ND, show he was likely to work hard enough to succeed academically at ND, earn a scholarship offer from you, and all of you were thrilled to have such a bright ND-type guy, but since he jilted you and committed somewhere else he's now just looking for a place he won't have to attend class and can stay eligible with ease? Seriously???

I remember a guy in HS always talking about how wonderful his gf was until she jilted him, then all he could talk about was what a bitch and skank she was, how he never really liked her anyway, and how he couldn't wait to see her new boyfriend dump her. It made him look stupid, hypocritical and insecure. His best bet was to have just said, "No big deal. I hope it works out for her. NEXT!"

 

[Irishbounty28]

So Barnett was bright enough and serious enough about academics in HS to qualify for ND, show he was likely to work hard enough to succeed academically at ND, earn a scholarship offer from you, and all of you were thrilled to have such a bright ND-type guy, but since he jilted you and committed somewhere else he's now just looking for a place he won't have to attend class and can stay eligible with ease? Seriously???

I remember a guy in HS always talking about how wonderful his gf was until she jilted him, then all he could talk about was what a bitch and skank she was, how he never really liked her anyway, and how he couldn't wait to see her new boyfriend dump her. It made him look stupid, hypocritical and insecure. His best bet was to have just said, "No big deal. I hope it works out for her. NEXT!"

To be fair, Alabama and Notre Dame are about as far apart academically as can be. Therefore that would lead most to believe that other things are a priority to choose Alabama. He is still the same kid he was before, so I would have to agree he would have fit in tremendously at Notre Dame and probably achieved success in both the classroom and on the football field.

His ultimate choice to go to Alabama is what has many questioning how "serious" he was about academics, and only because it will not be as challenging as it would be at Notre Dame, not because he is lazy. Obviously his decision was based more on football than academics, and that is okay, but lets not kid ourselves and say that academics is the most important thing on his agenda.

 

[T Town Tommy]

To be fair, Alabama and Notre Dame are about as far apart academically as can be. Therefore that would lead most to believe that other things are a priority to choose Alabama. He is still the same kid he was before, so I would have to agree he would have fit in tremendously at Notre Dame and probably achieved success in both the classroom and on the football field.

His ultimate choice to go to Alabama is what has many questioning how "serious" he was about academics, and only because it will not be as challenging as it would be at Notre Dame, not because he is lazy. Obviously his decision was based more on football than academics, and that is okay, but lets not kid ourselves and say that academics is the most important thing on his agenda.

Barnett probably won't see meaningful playing time for at least the next two years. Year three he will have to beat out Cornwell for the job. Plenty of time for him to focus on academics. It isn't like Bama is a horrible school academically. They consistently rank in the top 50 public universities and the top 25 percentile overall. They would be even higher if their campus at Huntsville was included in as that campus has a very good ROI. If Barnett wants a good education - maybe not ND good - but a good education nonetheless, he will have that opportunity at Bama. That's up to him.

 

[Grahambo]

You have kids?

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[koonja]

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Pics or they ain't yours.

 

[Wild Bill]

So Barnett was bright enough and serious enough about academics in HS to qualify for ND, show he was likely to work hard enough to succeed academically at ND, earn a scholarship offer from you, and all of you were thrilled to have such a bright ND-type guy, but since he jilted you and committed somewhere else he's now just looking for a place he won't have to attend class and can stay eligible with ease? Seriously???

I remember a guy in HS always talking about how wonderful his gf was until she jilted him, then all he could talk about was what a bitch and skank she was, how he never really liked her anyway, and how he couldn't wait to see her new boyfriend dump her. It made him look stupid, hypocritical and insecure. His best bet was to have just said, "No big deal. I hope it works out for her. NEXT!"

High school skanks were the best.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Barnett probably won't see meaningful playing time for at least the next two years. Year three he will have to beat out Cornwell for the job. Plenty of time for him to focus on academics. It isn't like Bama is a horrible school academically. They consistently rank in the top 50 public universities and the top 25 percentile overall. They would be even higher if their campus at Huntsville was included in as that campus has a very good ROI. If Barnett wants a good education - maybe not ND good - but a good education nonetheless, he will have that opportunity at Bama. That's up to him.

Who are you kidding? I do not know where you are getting your info but two years ago, Alabama was in Newsweeks Bottom 10 worst academic schools for D1. If you think Bama, which as a state is in the top 7 worst academic states for HS in the union, is a top 25 academic school....jeez you need to take yourself out now.

I will give you that Bama has a good law program but undergrad, they are TERRIBLE. When Auburn beats you hands down academics, you know you arent anything special.

Face it, he went to Bama for one thing...because Snakeoil Saban convinced him that he would be the next NFL top pick. The fact is that under Kiffens offense, this guy will just be a glorified scout team QB running Auburns and Texas A&Ms gameplan. Do you not think Bama recruits better QBs than this guy every single year? They just had two 4 stars quit because they would never see play time. They recruit 1-2 4-5 star QBs every year. What makes you think this guy is going to be running anything? No they will recruit a better qb next year and this guy will either transfer or stay on scout team. Either way, I could care less. To me, this kid's word is dirt and he has zero honor. Dont talk academics and the opportunity that ND gives you and then pick a school with bottom 10 WORST academics.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Who are you kidding? I do not know where you are getting your info but two years ago, Alabama was in Newsweeks Bottom 10 worst academic schools for D1. If you think Bama, which as a state is in the top 7 worst academic states for HS in the union, is a top 25 academic school....jeez you need to take yourself out now.

I will give you that Bama has a good law program but undergrad, they are TERRIBLE. When Auburn beats you hands down academics, you know you arent anything special.

Face it, he went to Bama for one thing...because Snakeoil Saban convinced him that he would be the next NFL top pick. The fact is that under Kiffens offense, this guy will just be a glorified scout team QB running Auburns and Texas A&Ms gameplan. Do you not think Bama recruits better QBs than this guy every single year? They just had two 4 stars quit because they would never see play time. They recruit 1-2 4-5 star QBs every year. What makes you think this guy is going to be running anything? No they will recruit a better qb next year and this guy will either transfer or stay on scout team. Either way, I could care less. To me, this kid's word is dirt and he has zero honor. Dont talk academics and the opportunity that ND gives you and then pick a school with bottom 10 WORST academics.

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Since you know what Saban told Barnett, and you know how his career already pans out, guess there is no need for us to discuss it. As I said, Barnett's education is up to him. He can get a good education while he is at Bama or he can choose not to. That's up to him.

I have been critical of Barnett and how he played his recruitment and how it hurt ND in their QB recruiting this year. And I have also stated that I don't think he will see any meaningful playing time for at least the next 2-3 years. But I won't bash him to simply bash him. If academics are important to him, then he can get a good education at Bama. If academics aren't important to him, then he probably won't. Pretty simple to me.

 

[NDBoiler]

Who are you kidding? I do not know where you are getting your info but two years ago, Alabama was in Newsweeks Bottom 10 worst academic schools for D1. If you think Bama, which as a state is in the top 7 worst academic states for HS in the union, is a top 25 academic school....jeez you need to take yourself out now.

I will give you that Bama has a good law program but undergrad, they are TERRIBLE. When Auburn beats you hands down academics, you know you arent anything special.

Face it, he went to Bama for one thing...because Snakeoil Saban convinced him that he would be the next NFL top pick. The fact is that under Kiffens offense, this guy will just be a glorified scout team QB running Auburns and Texas A&Ms gameplan. Do you not think Bama recruits better QBs than this guy every single year? They just had two 4 stars quit because they would never see play time. They recruit 1-2 4-5 star QBs every year. What makes you think this guy is going to be running anything? No they will recruit a better qb next year and this guy will either transfer or stay on scout team. Either way, I could care less. To me, this kid's word is dirt and he has zero honor. Dont talk academics and the opportunity that ND gives you and then pick a school with bottom 10 WORST academics.

I get your point, but you really didn't cite where you are getting your statistics from either. Other than the one Newsweek comment, what are your sources?

 

[IrishLion]

The fact is that under Kiffens offense, this guy will just be a glorified scout team QB running Auburns and Texas A&Ms gameplan. Do you not think Bama recruits better QBs than this guy every single year? They just had two 4 stars quit because they would never see play time. They recruit 1-2 4-5 star QBs every year. What makes you think this guy is going to be running anything?

No.

 

[Irish#1]

Who are you kidding? I do not know where you are getting your info but two years ago, Alabama was in Newsweeks Bottom 10 worst academic schools for D1. If you think Bama, which as a state is in the top 7 worst academic states for HS in the union, is a top 25 academic school....jeez you need to take yourself out now.

I will give you that Bama has a good law program but undergrad, they are TERRIBLE. When Auburn beats you hands down academics, you know you arent anything special.

Face it, he went to Bama for one thing...because Snakeoil Saban convinced him that he would be the next NFL top pick. The fact is that under Kiffens offense, this guy will just be a glorified scout team QB running Auburns and Texas A&Ms gameplan. Do you not think Bama recruits better QBs than this guy every single year? They just had two 4 stars quit because they would never see play time. They recruit 1-2 4-5 star QBs every year. What makes you think this guy is going to be running anything? No they will recruit a better qb next year and this guy will either transfer or stay on scout team. Either way, I could care less. To me, this kid's word is dirt and he has zero honor. Dont talk academics and the opportunity that ND gives you and then pick a school with bottom 10 WORST academics.

Take a chill pill Ray. Certainly disappointing that BB flipped, but today, these kids words don't hold a lot of value until the sign their LOI and are enrolled.

 

[Bubbles]

I would tend to agree with T Town on this one; he likely will have an opportunity to get a good education IF he puts in the legwork.....however, I suspect it is much easier to skate by on a joke major at Bama than at ND. My guess is that when the pressures of football start to build up, he will take the easy route.....but I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Cali_domer]

Take a chill pill Ray. Certainly disappointing that BB flipped, but today, these kids words don't hold a lot of value until the sign their LOI and are enrolled.

Yeah , LOI isn't even a guarantee

 

[IrishLax]

I can't believe we're going down the whole academics things again and we're going to have to clean this up... I've been very guilty of these tangents in the past, so I understand how it spirals... but didn't we just do a big cleanup?

Cack's point was just that we, as fans, tend to have a much different appreciation of "academics are important to me" than these kids. Most of us coming through high school that weren't looking at full athletic rides with a lucrative pro-league were playing a game of balancing cost + prestige + academic opportunity + fit with where we applied, got accepted, and ultimately attended. Most "regular" kids are truly "academics first"... because academics is literally the reason why you're matriculating.

Cleaning all this up in a sec.