'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

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It's pretty common around here, which should be a point of pride for IE.

My view on this is that Barnett isn't coming to ND, so the need to keep his thread "on topic" isn't very pressing. But if some of you are masochistically clicking on this thread looking for actual news on the kid, I'd be open to cleaning it up more regularly. I generally leave the Thread Nazi shtick to Beau.

Beau the Thread Nazi has a bit of a ring to it...

"If the shoe fits, you must wear it."
 

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This thread reminds me: I had tacos for lunch, and they were fantastic.

Does anybody else have a favorite mythical creature? I've always been partial to Bigfoot.....
 

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lol

The reason it does, IMO, is every time we lose a commit and they go to some random ass place because they never gave two shits about academics and only liked ND for the "glitz" factors a bunch of people... including myself... go WHY THE HELL DO WE RECRUIT KIDS LIKE THIS?!

That seems a bit unfair to the coaches. You see how many of us cry out for the big thug type players, the heavy hitters, the Jadeveon Clowneys...etc hoping to guide us to the big times. So how can we blame them for at least trying to go after the best of guys? Kelly has said we shop down a different aisle for recruits which is true, but that doesn't mean we won't go after the 5 stars.
Also, how can we expect the coaches to know how this kids are going to be and act? We were thrilled with Diacos 4am house call to the infamous Aaron Lynch. Obviously, Lynch wasn't the kind of player we roll with at ND but I would never blame the coaches for their effort and intent. You win some, you lose some, and sometimes there is just no way to truly know a player before he arrives on campus and stick his cleats into the turf.

Just my two cents.. or one cent...
 
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This thread reminds me: I had tacos for lunch, and they were fantastic.

Does anybody else have a favorite mythical creature? I've always been partial to Bigfoot.....

Bigfoot isn't mythical, he is my neighbor.

Directions: (California)Take 101N then jump onto the 299E and then drive out into BFE and when you see the Bigfoot statue, you are in Bigfoot Country.
 
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This thread reminds me: I had tacos for lunch, and they were fantastic.

Does anybody else have a favorite mythical creature? I've always been partial to Bigfoot.....

Nessie would eat Bigfoot. I'd probably go with Manbearpig as my favorite though.

ManBearPig.JPG
 

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Leave. It. Be.

I too view the interaction as a point of pride and is the main reason I stick around this place. Good crootin info...but also there is often humorous and rarely intellectual discourse.


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This thread reminds me: I had tacos for lunch, and they were fantastic.

Does anybody else have a favorite mythical creature? I've always been partial to Bigfoot.....



The firebreathing drake is my favorite. Whats cooler than a dragon...does that count as a mythical creature?
 
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Find me a thread with 20+ pages that has stayed on track lol

It's pretty common around here, which should be a point of pride for IE.

My view on this is that Barnett isn't coming to ND, so the need to keep his thread "on topic" isn't very pressing. But if some of you are masochistically clicking on this thread looking for actual news on the kid, I'd be open to cleaning it up more regularly. I generally leave the Thread Nazi shtick to Beau.

lol

The reason it does, IMO, is every time we lose a commit and they go to some random ass place because they never gave two shits about academics and only liked ND for the "glitz" factors a bunch of people... including myself... go WHY THE HELL DO WE RECRUIT KIDS LIKE THIS?!

With Blake I feel differently though. I think the staff was right on with recruiting him, and I don't think they could've seen this coming. Is what it is.

I feel honored that I got quoted three posts in a row!
 
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Yeah I didn't buy the "depth chart scaring Barnett away," but if he's admitting that he doesn't want another QB in his class, that's a wimp move and maybe he didn't have the chest for ND.

I was just over at Keith's site, and watched the piece of crap video on Barnett, posted there. I understand it came from Bleacher Report. This is a festering example of what is wrong with college football.

1) This was an example of Madison Avenue image cleaning if I ever saw one. It is unconscionable to have another (25 year older) quarterback telling his story. The obvious attempt to get the viewer to conflate the two, was centered around the attempt at building the myth of how difficult it is for prodigy like these to make a life decision (honor their word.) Bull.

2) Simms led Barnett. I wish I saw this side of Barnett earlier. He looked like an idiot. A weak one at that. I didn't like the fact that Barnett said that "he and his family fell in love with Notre Dame, and that was a mistake. Like if you get to close to ND you lose your senses. I have seen professionals who make hiring mistakes that say, they were enamored with the personality, same thing, its a cop out. The same thing that slave owners said about their African concubines; "It was a supernatural affect that made me want to have sex with her!" That way they didn't have to be responsible for their own hypocrisy.

3) I was neutral about this kid until I saw this video. Now I include him with the all time flakes. Chris Martin, Alex Anzelone, Ronald Darby. Too bad Dane Crist, with all his skills but supreme loyalty to the Irish couldn't make it work, I can only wait to see if Blake does any better.

4) And if you wonder, not once do you ever hear the weasel words from Everett, Malik, or DeShone.
 

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I was just over at Keith's site, and watched the piece of crap video on Barnett, posted there. I understand it came from Bleacher Report. This is a festering example of what is wrong with college football.

1) This was an example of Madison Avenue image cleaning if I ever saw one. It is unconscionable to have another (25 year older) quarterback telling his story. The obvious attempt to get the viewer to conflate the two, was centered around the attempt at building the myth of how difficult it is for prodigy like these to make a life decision (honor their word.) Bull.

2) Simms led Barnett. I wish I saw this side of Barnett earlier. He looked like an idiot. A weak one at that. I didn't like the fact that Barnett said that "he and his family fell in love with Notre Dame, and that was a mistake. Like if you get to close to ND you lose your senses. I have seen professionals who make hiring mistakes that say, they were enamored with the personality, same thing, its a cop out. The same thing that slave owners said about their African concubines; "It was a supernatural affect that made me want to have sex with her!" That way they didn't have to be responsible for their own hypocrisy.

3) I was neutral about this kid until I saw this video. Now I include him with the all time flakes. Chris Martin, Alex Anzelone, Ronald Darby. Too bad Dane Crist, with all his skills but supreme loyalty to the Irish couldn't make it work, I can only wait to see if Blake does any better.

4) And if you wonder, not once do you ever hear the weasel words from Everett, Malik, or DeShone.

Thanks for posting. He definitely could have worded that better. He made it sound like ND is a cult and he just narrowly escaped its clutches. I won't root for him to fail, but if he does, I won't shed a tear.
 
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Thanks for posting. He definitely could have worded that better. He made it sound like ND is a cult and he just narrowly escaped its clutches. I won't root for him to fail, but if he does, I won't shed a tear.

My point was that I felt that it was more than a poorly worded statement, it was an excuse for his own bad behavior. By bad I don't mean criminal, I mean breaking his word. Without over-dramatization, he shifted his own change of heart and breaking his word to "Notre Dame's fault" because their tradition and appeal was so alluring. He and his family lost their senses, don't you know!
 

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I was just over at Keith's site, and watched the piece of crap video on Barnett, posted there. I understand it came from Bleacher Report. This is a festering example of what is wrong with college football.

1) This was an example of Madison Avenue image cleaning if I ever saw one. It is unconscionable to have another (25 year older) quarterback telling his story. The obvious attempt to get the viewer to conflate the two, was centered around the attempt at building the myth of how difficult it is for prodigy like these to make a life decision (honor their word.) Bull.

2) Simms led Barnett. I wish I saw this side of Barnett earlier. He looked like an idiot. A weak one at that. I didn't like the fact that Barnett said that "he and his family fell in love with Notre Dame, and that was a mistake. Like if you get to close to ND you lose your senses. I have seen professionals who make hiring mistakes that say, they were enamored with the personality, same thing, its a cop out. The same thing that slave owners said about their African concubines; "It was a supernatural affect that made me want to have sex with her!" That way they didn't have to be responsible for their own hypocrisy.

3) I was neutral about this kid until I saw this video. Now I include him with the all time flakes. Chris Martin, Alex Anzelone, Ronald Darby. Too bad Dane Crist, with all his skills but supreme loyalty to the Irish couldn't make it work, I can only wait to see if Blake does any better.

4) And if you wonder, not once do you ever hear the weasel words from Everett, Malik, or DeShone.

You need to let it go brother. You just compared what a 17 year old kid said about Notre Dame to slave owners justifying sleeping with their slaves. That is bat shit crazy.
 
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You need to let it go brother. You just compared what a 17 year old kid said about Notre Dame to slave owners justifying sleeping with their slaves. That is bat shit crazy.

Did I? I am sorry! I thought I compared the psychological mechanism of projecting blame for ones own actions on another, (whether the victim or not)!

Since I posted that I realize that not all of the public gets it. That you can see this mechanism as a character flaw, when present. And in college football it becomes institutionalized with video bull shit like this. I though everyone could see this, maybe that was what was bat shit crazy? Sorry if I assumed too much.
 

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Did I? I am sorry! I thought I compared the psychological mechanism of projecting blame for ones own actions on another, (whether the victim or not)!

Since I posted that I realize that not all of the public gets it. That you can see this mechanism as a character flaw, when present. And in college football it becomes institutionalized with video bull shit like this. I though everyone could see this, maybe that was what was bat shit crazy? Sorry if I assumed too much.

Jeez Bogs, I love you man but you seem a lil edgy today...breeeeeaaaathhh.
 

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Stanford does just fine without 'em.



It's possible, but probably not worth the risk. Being a student-athlete at ND is a lot harder than it is at most other sports-oriented universities because we take the "student" part seriously. Being "football-first" strongly implies that a recruit doesn't value a lot of what makes ND special, and is therefore much more likely to bolt or turn into a locker room cancer when adversity invariably hits.



Different era. ND's national exposure and appeal were unmatched by any other program for many many years. So we were the obvious destination of choice even for football-first guys; they'd put up with all the "extraneous bullshit" because there was nowhere better to go. That's not the case anymore.

Jimmy Clausen was a football first guy, and he did ok. I think the problem is not in football first guys. But perhaps he is the exception to the rule.
 
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Jeez Bogs, I love you man but you seem a lil edgy today...breeeeeaaaathhh.

Yeah, you must be right. Usually when my behavior is equated to "bat shit crazy", I just play in the guano!

(In real life, face to face I would use my word, and explain how I felt by being written off that way. But this is the internet so I will just return like ordinance.)
 

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Yeah, you must be right. Usually when my behavior is equated to "bat shit crazy", I just play in the guano!

(In real life, face to face I would use my word, and explain how I felt by being written off that way. But this is the internet so I will just return like ordinance.)

*hugs*
 

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After visiting Bama, Blake has cancelled LSU and Georgia visits

Good-Bye Oregon. It's been nice to know you. Blake is enjoying being the flavor of the month. It looks like he is ready to commit to Alabama for a couple of weeks before once again questioning his choice and taking more visits in the Fall. I think ND was fortunate to get out of this one early. This is a recruit basking in the attention that has come his way since the original ND offer. I suspect he is a transfer waiting to happen when he finds he's not at the top of the depth chart on day one.
 

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If Blake goes to Bama then Oregon moves on Waller.


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I think we're in good shape with Waller, even though the conjecture on here is he goes to Oregon if BB goes to Bama.
 
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I think we're in good shape with Waller, even though the conjecture on here is he goes to Oregon if BB goes to Bama.

I will trust you on that, reps!


I love a good villain in every story.

I have a feeling we will see Blake on the field.

The place where all disputes are righteously settled.

:)

Reps, sir!

I think the way this class is shaping up even if we aren't okay with Waller, we will be fine with three good to great QB's on the depth chart with multiple years of eligibility left.

Worse come to worse, let's take a another quarterback killer as an elite pass rusher, for any future engagements!
 
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