'11 CA ATH George Atkinson III (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

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I understand how you can feel that way on the other hand do you think that Teo should have that title? He arguably brought greater public ridicule to ND than Rees or how about Floyd with his DUI? Being a ND man IMO is not about being perfect, it is ok if they had to overcome some adversity (even if it was self made). I don't expect people to be perfect just that they learn from their mistakes.

The DUI incident I agree with you on, but Teo was a victim in his case, so no, I do not compare his case with this or the DUI case. Teo was never in any legal trouble. It did shed negative light on him, but that is because of a poor deadspin article and anti ND bias.

Yes, I am a cop.

I understood it as Tommy trying to escape, he gets tackled by the cabbie and in the midst of trying to apprehend Rees the cop gets a knee to the chest.

So it is ok to hit a cop if you are simply trying to escape? However, like you, I do not know all the details of the incident, but I dont really know of a valid reason for hitting a cop. Trying to escape, intoxicated, scared...?

Having said all that, I still like Rees as a player, but "Notre Dame Man" should not be next to his name. If someone hits a cop, it tells me a lot about their personality.

My two cents. :)
 

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I have "cops" in family and in friends, so, absolutely yes, I believe in honoring their service, let alone not hitting them. And, sir, I honor your service as well.

But isn't it just possible that the so-called "hitting" was an accident of flailing about after getting tackled and attempting to get back up and continue running away, only then realizing that it was the policeman [I seldom use the word "cop"] and not the cab driver? And isn't it just possible that the policeman wrote the incident up with a description favorable to making an arrest stick? [and I also concede that the policeman would be following natural job-programmed instincts to do so, and that his writing would in that way have been "honest".]

I'd prefer a wider potential view of this "unknown scenario" rather than an immediate firm conviction. This is my preferred albeit short-on-data way of viewing most of these things. It's based on the fact that Tommy's general personality doesn't mesh with anything remotely like uncivil aggression, he did not "swing" at the policeman, he ceased immediately upon getting to his feet and seeing the situation, and he has never been allowed to tell his side of the story.

He is, for all the other things he did for us, a "Notre Dame Man". That is in my mind, and that's all I've got.


... apologies to everyone for this being in the wrong thread....
 

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I think Rees hitting a cop pretty much put Notre Dame man out the window...

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the history of Notre Dame football? Rockne's guys would have been a cell block team, had they not been at Notre Dame. ND actually has a long tradition of taking people who are borderline criminals and turning them into solid citizens. Not to say that Rees is a borderline criminal or anything, but to say that he has to stay out of any trouble to be labelled a Notre Dame Man, is to completely ignore that part of the Notre Dame "tradition".
 

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unofficial 4.41. Pretty much where I expected him. Very good for his size.
 

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From the combine:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre Dame RB George Atkinson III improved his timed speed in second run, posting an unofficial 4.39, at 6'1" 218 lbs. Size+speed.</p>— Dion Caputi (@nfldraftupdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftupdate/statuses/437683916506267648">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Feel like telling him, "Yeah, size and speed, but a lack of commensurate production frustrated the hell out of ND ppl for a couple of years."

Best wishes, to GAIII, tho'.
 

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Atkinson hopes to have impact at next level
May, 5, 2014
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One byproduct of George Atkinson III's early departure from Notre Dame? He's never been this far away from his brother.

"Definitely, and the longest for sure," Atkinson said with a laugh.

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George Atkinson III's speed could make him a valuable special teams asset in the NFL.
But while his twin, Josh, gears up for summer workouts before his final season as a cornerback with the Irish, George has been completing final preparations for this weekend's NFL draft, an event that came a year earlier than expected after an unceremonious end to his collegiate career.

Atkinson said that the physical part of February's NFL combine was the easy part when compared to all of the questions he received from executives wanting to know where things went south for him at Notre Dame, as coach Brian Kelly suspended him from the New Era Pinstripe Bowl for an unspecified violation of team rules. (Atkinson had tweeted, and deleted, that he was suspended for texting during a team meal, something he said he had done all season.)

"Of course the bowl game got brought up, why was I suspended, why am I leaving early, typical questions for people leaving early," Atkinson said of questions executives asked him. "But I just handled it how I'd handle it if anybody else asked me the question: Just stayed true to myself and true to the situation and took responsibility for my actions, and that's the basics my dad raised me on."

Atkinson's dad, former Oakland Raiders defensive back and current broadcaster George Atkinson, has been an invaluable resource during this time, with the son living back at home in the Bay Area this spring while training at California Strength in San Ramon.

"It's definitely a blessing, but then again when [my father] came out I don't think they even had the combine," Atkinson quipped about an event that started in 1982, three years after his father's final year in the NFL. "But he's been in the league for many years, so he knows what to expect. It's kind of like boot camp, [with him] making sure my bed's made and everything just to make sure I'm staying disciplined and things like that, what it takes to be successful at the next level. But it's been a blessing to have him guiding me throughout his whole situation."

Ironically enough, Atkinson says his mom pushed him and his brother toward football when they were growing up more than his father did. His career at Notre Dame got off to a roaring start, with the part-time track star returning a pair of kickoffs for touchdowns during his freshman season in 2011. From there, the man with 4.48 speed had an uneven next two years, showing flashes of promise as the third-string running back during the Irish's 12-1 2012 campaign (361 yards, three touchdowns) before stagnating when given the No. 1 role (555 yards, three touchdowns in 2013).

Still, the 6-foot-1, 218-pound speedster's big-play capability, especially on special teams, gives him a chance to be a late-round pick, and he insists he has no regrets on his time spent in South Bend.

"It was definitely a good experience, for sure. I don't take it for granted at all," Atkinson said. "I don't regret going there. I loved my three years there -- my teammates and my brother and the coaching staff and all that. It's definitely something I'm going to remember for the rest of my life. I was really grateful for the opportunity that I had there, and I'm planning on finishing my degree in the near future for sure, so it was a great time."
After early Notre Dame exit, George Atkinson III faces NFL challenge - ESPN
 

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Signed with Raiders as an UDFA

I wish George III well in his attempt to stick with an NFL team. But his UDFA status with Oakland, a team his father played for, is an expression of loyalty to his father. George III needs to take this opportunity and give it his best shot. His father's career and name has gotten him an opportunity to compete for a spot on the Raiders roster. Now it is up to George III to prove he belongs. Go get it, George!
 

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Outside of speed, Reese deserves a spot more on a NFL team than George

What exactly do you think entails making an NFL team?

I think I understand what he's getting at. From an athletic standpoint, it's certainly night and day. However, GAIII is somewhat un-coachable and isn't really a team player when you consider some of his past and his attitude. Tommy is quite the opposite in that respect, he's the kind of guy you want on your team if he has all the tools. Both players seem to have problems learning from past mistakes though.
 

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I think I understand what he's getting at. From an athletic standpoint, it's certainly night and day. However, GAIII is somewhat un-coachable and isn't really a team player when you consider some of his past and his attitude. Tommy is quite the opposite in that respect, he's the kind of guy you want on your team if he has all the tools. Both players seem to have problems learning from past mistakes though.

Yeah, as far as their coachability and intangibles, I agree. I guess he was speaking hypothetically.
 

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How many games would ND have lost if GAIII wasn't able to play compared to Rees? GAIII was just never a game changer here at ND

Yeah...I think you need to go back and look at the games he played in. He took it to the house a number of times when it mattered.
 
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