'10 NC DE Prince Shembo (In hot water)

[dublinirish]

no way there are 8 or whatever better WR's than him in CFB this season, thats mental

 

[CanadalovesND]

no way there are 8 or whatever better WR's than him in CFB this season, thats mental

Last year there was 13 WRs.

So far, the WRs to accept invites to the senior bowl are:

Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin

Robert Herron, Wyoming

Ryan Grant, Tulane

Kain Colter, QB/WR, Northwestern

Cody Hoffman, BYU


With Jones accepting the East-West invite, he'll probably be passed over by the Senior Bowl, even if he was going to get an invite. But, like I said before, if he has a great week of practice, and there is opening due to an injury, he could be first on the call-up list.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

He still may play in the game.

Given he has an excellent week and there are injuries in Mobile.

He can be a call-up.

I remember that Ian Williams was supposed to play in the Shrine Game. We didn't hear anything about him the whole week and he didn't play in the game. Turns out he got a late invite to the senior bowl. Could happen for TJ.


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[dublinirish]

there was a WR from Elon at the Senior Bowl last year..

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

there was a WR from Elon at the Senior Bowl last year..

Aaron Mellette. He was a 7th round pick by the Ravens

 

[CanadalovesND]

Had a solid first day of practice at the East-West Shrine Game.

WalterFootball.com: 2014 East-West Shrine Game Practice Report

Another defensive player who stood out was Notre Dame linebacker Prince Shembo. He had a good run fill to stuff a carry. Shembo also had an interception on a deflected pass. College teammate Tommy Rees forced a pass into tight coverage, and Shembo was in the right place to catch the deflection. Shembo lacked consistency in his college career, so it is important for him to play well all week.

Also, he apparently is practicing as a 4-3 WILL

Notre Dame Prince Shembo switching positions East West Shrine Game

Notre Dame Prince Shembo finished his career as one of the top defensive players on the team. In Shembo's final season, he recorded 48 tackles and 5.5 sacks. His outstanding play earned him an invite the East-West Shrine Game. "I'm a better athlete than they give me credit for," said Shembo awaiting his first practice in Saint Petersburg, Florida. Shembo is going to put his athletic ability to the test switching positions this week for the game. "I'll be out of position," Shembo said. "We're going to a base 4-3, so we have only six linebackers and four of us are rush linebackers. So someone has to play 'will' (linebacker). So I decided to volunteer." Throughout the history of the East-West Shrine Game, players have been chosen because they are the very best in the country. In fact, there are 246 former East-West Shrine Game players on current NFL rosters. Shembo looks to make the list 247.

 

[Irishman77]

The perfect steeler. Been saying this for 3 years!

He was an elite pass rusher that hardly ever got the green light.

Diamond in the ruff...

 

[tko]

The perfect steeler. Been saying this for 3 years!

He was an elite pass rusher that hardly ever got the green light.

Diamond in the ruff...

Agree, absolute steal for someone in this draft. I hope he lands with the right club and the right fit.

 

[dublinirish]

i dont really rate Shembo as a pass rusher tbh, I wonder sometimes what he could have been like if he was developed as an ILB

 

[irishfan]

I'd like to see him slim down to 245 and wreak havoc on the edge. Belichick used to be all about drafting the undersized DEs, I'd love to see him in a Pats uniform and in a Dane Fletcher role.

 

[Cackalacky]

Had a solid first day of practice at the East-West Shrine Game.

WalterFootball.com: 2014 East-West Shrine Game Practice Report



Also, he apparently is practicing as a 4-3 WILL

Notre Dame Prince Shembo switching positions East West Shrine Game

I think he projects as this in the NFL. I cant see him playing a 3-4 OLB. Personally would love the Bucs to take him with Lovie and Frazier on staff.

 

[rtrn2glory]

imo it would be hard to argue that he would have been effective playing MLB at ND as well.

 

[CanadalovesND]

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Prince Shembo

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Large hands. Good balance and knee bend. Strong and physical -- can stuff tight ends and is surprisingly robust at the point of attack. Flows laterally and pursues to the boundary. Strong tackler. Flashes power-leverage potential. Effective stunting and looping. Operated from 2- and 3-point stance and played on special teams.

WEAKNESSES
Lacks ideal body length, elite flexibility and closing speed. Average eyes and instincts (see-and-go reactor). Can improve hand use. Hip tightness shows in space and when required to drop into coverage.

BOTTOM LINE
Thickly built, high-motor, highly competitive edge defender who projects best as a left outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. Lacks desirable dimensions, flexibility and finishing speed, but has more than enough play strength, tenacity and toughness to compensate.

 

[Huntr]

Shembo talking about Lizzy Seeburg. NFL GMs at the combine have asked about the situation. Ugh.

 

[stlnd01]

Shembo talking about Lizzy Seeburg. NFL GMs at the combine have asked about the situation. Ugh.

Well, yeah. Why wouldn't they? They ask about everything else. Almost sounded from that interview like he's glad to be able to explain his side of the story at last.

 

[Huntr]

Well, yeah. Why wouldn't they? They ask about everything else. Almost sounded from that interview like he's glad to be able to explain his side of the story at last.

No, of course they would ask and they should. "Ugh" was for the fact that it had to come up, inevitable as it was.

 

[woolybug25]

Funny how they mention the situation by name but call Lewan threatening to rape a rape victim as "an incident".

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You know, I am about as big a victim's advocate as has come down the pike. But this is not about the poor young girl being the only victim.

It is amazing the made up filth that I have seen on this subject. I hope this part of the conversation fizzles and is overshadowed by his great combine performance.

 

[Irish#1]

You know, I am about as big a victim's advocate as has come down the pike. But this is not about the poor young girl being the only victim.

It is amazing the made up filth that I have seen on this subject. I hope this part of the conversation fizzles and is overshadowed by his great combine performance.

Agree

 

[IrishSteelhead]

It's on ESPN now, so buckle up,

 

[illmatic630]

NFL teams can't take Prince Shembo's word for it
Jerry Angelo, other GMs should keep digging for the truth about Notre Dame defensive end's behavior, character


David Haugh
In the Wake of the News
7:35 p.m. CST, February 23, 2014

After one Notre Dame football practice in August, coach Brian Kelly described defensive end Prince Shembo to reporters.

"He plays the game with that chip where (he is) going to do whatever's necessary to be disruptive,'' Kelly said. "You almost have to take his helmet away from him.''

I recall cringing as I read Kelly's comments in print. Yeah, disruptive.

Taking Shembo's helmet away for a couple of games was something I suggested Kelly should have done in September 2010 when the player was accused of sexual battery by St. Mary's College student Lizzy Seeberg. And Kelly's description certainly fit Shembo's profile on and off the field based on the reporting by many media members who knew of his alleged role in this tragic saga from the start.

Attention, Bears general manager Phil Emery and 31 other NFL peers considering drafting Shembo in the late rounds: Keep digging. Go beyond the surface-level interview Shembo conducted at the NFL scouting combine. See if Shembo indeed established a pattern of disciplinary problems back home in Charlotte, N.C., that Notre Dame coaches ignored. Find the high school teacher whom Shembo allegedly threw a desk at after having his cellphone taken away, as Politics Daily reported. Chase the rumors about Shembo's past, which reporters never had context to pursue or report as the media concealed the identity of someone not charged with a crime as a matter of fairness.

Now that Shembo chose to come forward Saturday at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, evaluating his character issues also becomes fair.

When Shembo publicly identified himself as the accused for the first time, he attempted to clear his name but only added a few more smudges. Shembo did the most damage taking a troubling blame-the-victim tone, impugning a 19-year-old from Northbrook who committed suicide nine days after filing a complaint that alleged inappropriate touching during an incident in Shembo's dorm room.

"I'm innocent, I didn't do anything,'' Shembo told ESPN.com. "I'm the one who ended it and pretty much told the girl that we should stop, that we shouldn't be doing this. … I was a freshman. I don't think games even started yet, and she was older than me.''

The older woman Shembo referred to was born 147 days before he was.

If Shembo believed he was blameless, why wait 31/2 years to try clearing his name, which he said "was going to flames"? Why didn't Shembo return repeated calls from Notre Dame Security Police after Seeberg reported the incident? It wasn't as if Shembo was unaware, regardless of Saturday's claims. Two days after the alleged attack, a close friend of Shembo sent a text message to Seeberg warning: "Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea.'' Yet two weeks passed until Shembo finally gave his statement to campus police. If Shembo really professed innocence about the whole ordeal, why was his punk friend aggressively texting threats?

"I was like, 'What?' I was confused,'' Shembo recalled Saturday of his NDSP interview. "They were asking questions and I didn't know what they were talking about because I didn't do anything.''

He didn't proclaim his innocence then because he says Kelly urged him to stay silent.

"I wanted to, but they had to keep everything confidential,'' Shembo said. "Now that I'm out (of school), I can talk about it.''

Great, so please explain how a kid from North Carolina retained a prominent Chicago personal-injury attorney, a Notre Dame graduate who worked in concert with the university's public relations office, according to a 2012 National Catholic Reporter story. Please discuss any personal knowledge of the intimidation tactics via text used to scare Seeberg. And the next time Shembo addresses his indirect but undeniable link to Seeberg, perhaps he can show some respect or sympathy for the memory of a young woman who died too soon after keeping his company.

This might feel like it's over to Shembo. To the Seeberg family, which publicly declined comment, the emptiness lingers. Both the local prosecutor and a university disciplinary panel eventually cleared Shembo, but that didn't make it easier for Seebergs to see No. 55 in a gold helmet every autumn Saturday. Zachary Fardon, now the highly regarded U.S. Attorney in Chicago, felt so strongly about the Seebergs' contention that Notre Dame mishandled the case that he represented the family for free.

In the NFL, Shembo will encounter more acceptance than outrage if he can rush the passer. The only person who can refute his claims of innocence is dead. The media has moved on, if interest in Indy was any indication.

Shembo finally broke his 41-month silence to a handful of reporters. In the same building, openly gay prospect Michael Sam commanded the biggest media crowd. Both NFL prospects proclaimed they had nothing to hide, but only one was convincing.

dhaugh@tribune.com

Twitter @DavidHaugh

thoughts?

 

[Irish#1]

thoughts?

Certainly doesn't present things in a good light. I guess we'll see how much this effects his draft status come the draft.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

thoughts?

You knew these type of stories would be rolling off the press once the media had a green light. It is what it is, awful for all parties involved. Dragging BK into it was a nice touch for the axe grinding reporter.

 

[Rack Em]

thoughts?

Here's a link to the actual police report for anybody who wishes to read it or send it to that douche.

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-12/272335660-16095122.pdf

What happened was unfortunate. But nothing criminal occurred and Res Life could have conducted an investigation and disciplined him as well. This isn't the same as fat-fucking-low-life-piece-of-shit-rapist Brendan Gibbons and fat-fucking-low-life-piece-of-shit-rapist-accomplice Taylor Lewan incident in which Michigan covered it up and swept it under the rug. NDSPD probably should have dealt with it sooner because sexual assault is serious. But what does this a-hole think Shembo should have done differently? Expose the University and the team by opening up his mouth? He's just another douche journalist with an ax to grind and binoculars that don't reach Ann Arbor.

 

[irishff1014]

I guess I overlooked this when this was reported the first time

 

[stlnd01]

Here's a link to the actual police report for anybody who wishes to read it or send it to that douche.

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-12/272335660-16095122.pdf

What happened was unfortunate. But nothing criminal occurred and Res Life could have conducted an investigation and disciplined him as well. This isn't the same as fat-fucking-low-life-piece-of-shit-rapist Brendan Gibbons and fat-fucking-low-life-piece-of-shit-rapist-accomplice Taylor Lewan incident in which Michigan covered it up and swept it under the rug. NDSPD probably should have dealt with it sooner because sexual assault is serious. But what does this a-hole think Shembo should have done differently? Expose the University and the team by opening up his mouth? He's just another douche journalist with an ax to grind and binoculars that don't reach Ann Arbor.

There's not much Shembo could have done differently. He was a new freshman, told to keep his mouth shut by the program, and he did what he was told. If, as it seems, nothing criminal actually happened that night, he'll be fine.

There's a lot, though, that Notre Dame could have done differently - and I don't mean by coming down hard on Shembo, but by treating the Seebergs with the grace and sympathy they deserved instead of lawyering up and dragging her dead name through the mud spreading intimations of mental illness. While I don't think there's much to be gained by dredging the whole episode up yet again, I still think it's about the worst thing Notre Dame's administration has done in a long time. David Haugh appears to agree.

And comparisons to Michigan (or most other schools with sexual assault cases) are irrelevant. We hold ourselves to a higher standard. Most of the time we meet it. We deserve to be called out when we don't.

 

[D-BOE34]

There's not much Shembo could have done differently. He was a new freshman, told to keep his mouth shut by the program, and he did what he was told. If, as it seems, nothing criminal actually happened that night, he'll be fine.

There's a lot, though, that Notre Dame could have done differently - and I don't mean by coming down hard on Shembo, but by treating the Seebergs with the grace and sympathy they deserved instead of lawyering up and dragging her dead name through the mud spreading intimations of mental illness. While I don't think there's much to be gained by dredging the whole episode up yet again, I still think it's about the worst thing Notre Dame's administration has done in a long time. David Haugh appears to agree.

And comparisons to Michigan (or most other schools with sexual assault cases) are irrelevant. We hold ourselves to a higher standard. Most of the time we meet it. We deserve to be called out when we don't.

100%

 

[IrishLax]

There's not much Shembo could have done differently. He was a new freshman, told to keep his mouth shut by the program, and he did what he was told. If, as it seems, nothing criminal actually happened that night, he'll be fine.

There's a lot, though, that Notre Dame could have done differently - and I don't mean by coming down hard on Shembo, but by treating the Seebergs with the grace and sympathy they deserved instead of lawyering up and dragging her dead name through the mud spreading intimations of mental illness. While I don't think there's much to be gained by dredging the whole episode up yet again, I still think it's about the worst thing Notre Dame's administration has done in a long time. David Haugh appears to agree.

And comparisons to Michigan (or most other schools with sexual assault cases) are irrelevant. We hold ourselves to a higher standard. Most of the time we meet it. We deserve to be called out when we don't.

The only part I don't agree with is what I bolded. What actually happened is that the Seebergs came looking for answers, ND gave them what answers they thought they could (that Lizzy wasn't a student of theirs, and that as far as their investigation was concerned no criminal activity had occurred)... then the Seebergs threatened lawsuits and demanded settlement money and said they'd go to the press unless they got $$, and ND balked at them as ND is not about to extorted and pay hush money. And then the story broke.

Her mental illness history came to light because she OD'd on her anti-depressents. As such, you had to at least allude to why she had anti-depressants. The public has only gotten to hear a shred of her issues at that. There sure as hell hasn't been a smear campaign. If there was, you'd know.

The fact that this is still being talked about is a testament to a horrible PR strategy and nothing else. There are a lot of legitimate questions to be asked of NDSP, etc. but at the same time people who knew Lizzy have just as many for why on earth her parents sent her back off to school, etc. There are so many layers to this that no one really talks about at all because it's not juicy and doesn't get clicks.

 

[gkIrish]

I've been trying to get people to avoid talking about this story but since it's out in the open now...

This reporter is a clown and all you need to know about that article is found in the last paragraph. What in the world does Michael Sam have to do with the Seeburg story? Absolutely nothing. This dude is just looking for hits off google searches of Sam. Thank you to the OP for quoting the article rather than posting the link.

 

[ulukinatme]

Hopefully this is the last time this story has to be discussed by the media, but I doubt they'll be able to avoid going to the well when they want some hits. I know I'll continue to see jabs about it from other teams when I peruse other football forums. It's inconceivable that the Gibbons/Lewan thing hasn't gotten more traction, yet Shembo touched a breast and the story will not die. I feel for the Seebergs, certainly, but it's got to be gut wrenching to have this story resurface now if you're the parents. I hope I never have to go through a situation like that as a parent, I would be devastated. I understand Shembo's desire to clear the air and tell his side though. Up to this point, we've only heard the Seeberg's side.