'14 IL DT Enoch Smith (Michigan State Verbal)

Sherm Sticky

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Good for him and good pickup by MSU. He will be a solid player for a couple of years for them.
 

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Man i really wanted them to go after him harder early on... even moreso now.
 

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I said it before and I'll say it again, this kid is Bruce Gaston 2.0 - he'll be a solid B1G performer on the DL and be a thorn in ND's side if he doesn't come here.

I agree with that. Give him a spot. Especially with Hounsell's career up in the air now.

Just wanted to resurrect these posts. Looks like Sherm and I were on the ball.

Also, I believe Michigan State offered.
 

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Haha-I love the flip from so many on this board. Diaco could do no wrong until it's safe to blast him from afar.
 

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We also didn't realize he was behind some of these non offers.

^This. I always thought there were some weird non-offers, but I trusted the staff's "recruit to a profile" approach. Seems like that went out the window when Diaco left. He did some good things (especially in 2012), but we left a lot of athletes on the table. In the words of my incredibly southern HS basketball coach, "Be a player, make the plays, and I don't give a damn what you look like".
 

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Haha-I love the flip from so many on this board. Diaco could do no wrong until it's safe to blast him from afar.

Several folks including myself were more realistic about Diaco. Outside of his hair, I did not see his god-like resemblance. NOT saying he was bad, horrible, or even average,,,, just never thought he was a rock star, and believe our D's successes were a product of a rock star front 7, not of a rock star coach....

Of course a few voices of realism typically aren't noticed in a sea of optimism and worship. Also, any attempt of realism typically ended in a public flogging by the cult of Diaco.

Anyway, not really important to be honest.
 

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Several folks including myself were more realistic about Diaco. Outside of his hair, I did not see his god-like resemblance. NOT saying he was bad, horrible, or even average,,,, just never thought he was a rock star, and believe our D's successes were a product of a rock star front 7, not of a rock star coach....

Of course a few voices of realism typically aren't noticed in a sea of optimism and worship. Also, any attempt of realism typically ended in a public flogging by the cult of Diaco.

Anyway, not really important to be honest.

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^This. I always thought there were some weird non-offers, but I trusted the staff's "recruit to a profile" approach. Seems like that went out the window when Diaco left. He did some good things (especially in 2012), but we left a lot of athletes on the table. In the words of my incredibly southern HS basketball coach, "Be a player, make the plays, and I don't give a damn what you look like".

There is a big difference between your high school b-ball coach and the DC at Notre Dame. Diaco ran his system and recruited most of our badass d-linemen, which netted us the best defense in the country statistically, and won us a hell of a lot more games than Kelly's offense.
 

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There is a big difference between your high school b-ball coach and the DC at Notre Dame. Diaco ran his system and recruited most of our badass d-linemen, which netted us the best defense in the country statistically, and won us a hell of a lot more games than Kelly's offense.

Fair point, and I wasn't trying to compare my coach's responsibility to a DC. My point is that we passed on a lot of guys because of fit, but some of our best players were the exceptions to the rule ala Day, Shembo and Russell.
 

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There is a big difference between your high school b-ball coach and the DC at Notre Dame. Diaco ran his system and recruited most of our badass d-linemen, which netted us the best defense in the country statistically, and won us a hell of a lot more games than Kelly's offense.

Yeah but he didn't recruit Nix, and failed to recruit any NG to fit his system and only 2 ILBs in 3 classes for a scheme that requires 2 ILBs on the field at almost all times.

I think he's a great dude and pretty darn good defensive mind. But he had a limited repotoire in some senses and I do wish he had been willing to cast a bigger net in recruiting.
 

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Yeah but he didn't recruit Nix, and failed to recruit any NG to fit his system and only 2 ILBs in 3 classes for a scheme that requires 2 ILBs on the field at almost all times.

I think he's a great dude and pretty darn good defensive mind. But he had a limited repotoire in some senses and I do wish he had been willing to cast a bigger net in recruiting.

That's a fair statement, but this revisionist history about him is getting silly. It's starting to seem like our own personal Obama meme

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Curious as to where people think Enoch rates compared to the offers we have out right now at DT, and wondering if this was a case of slow playing gone bad.
 

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Curious as to where people think Enoch rates compared to the offers we have out right now at DT, and wondering if this was a case of slow playing gone bad.

If Pat Narduzzi wants Enoch, that's good enough for me. I don't know where I would rate him compared to Sawyers, Cage, and Garnett because I haven't watched enough tape on all of them. But I said from the beginning that I believe Enoch will be a solid contributor.

This was a case of Diaco didn't like his fit as a NG (lower on our board) coupled with a scheme change.
 

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If Pat Narduzzi wants Enoch, that's good enough for me. I don't know where I would rate him compared to Sawyers, Cage, and Garnett because I haven't watched enough tape on all of them. But I said from the beginning that I believe Enoch will be a solid contributor.

This was a case of Diaco didn't like his fit as a NG (lower on our board) coupled with a scheme change.

Damm! Read that he tore it up at a national competition recently, remember he was high on ND and I thought he, would at the very least be very solid depth and a potentially fruitful project.
 

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Damm! Read that he tore it up at a national competition recently, remember he was high on ND and I thought he, would at the very least be very solid depth and a potentially fruitful project.

I agree. I'm upset he's not coming here. But, to be fair, early in the cycle we were looking good with Elam, Holley, and Dickerson. He wasn't the priority he is now in a 4-3 minus Diaco's views on recruits.
 

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we offered Enoch (Nucky) in June 2012
are you guys blaming diaco for that? or are you saying he offered, this kid wanted to come here and diaco wouldnt "take" him.

i'm confused.
not sure which is worse when reading all these opinions on the departed diaco: false blame or false praise.
 

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we offered Enoch (Nucky) in June 2012
are you guys blaming diaco for that? or are you saying he offered, this kid wanted to come here and diaco wouldnt "take" him.

i'm confused.
not sure which is worse when reading all these opinions on the departed diaco: false blame or false praise.

He wasn't a take. I'm pretty sure he was interested, but not high on Diaco's board. So he kept looking and found Sparty.
 

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I for one am a big fan of Diaco. I think he did an incredibly good job for the University and represented us very well. Period. I was not blaming Diaco personally for Enoch not signing with us, but it did seem like there was a time when he was more interested in us than we were with him. Timing is very important in recruiting sometimes things don't line up, that is not always someone's fault. It could have been anyone on the staff or it could have been no one and just a situation where we thought we had more time to see how things shook out. Simply saying I wish some relatively local talent that wanted to be on board at one time was here now.

Although I am excited to see what "the stache" will bring to the defense, I am certainly not trying to revise, what I view, as a very successful tenure by Coach Diaco.
 

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how is diaco doing at UConn recruiting wise? has he flipped any kids yet or lost some etc?
 

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That's a fair statement, but this revisionist history about him is getting silly. It's starting to seem like our own personal Obama meme

I don't think it's revisionist at all to sit back and look at the facts. The facts are that the 3-4, which is HEAVILY dependent on the middle of the front 7 is seriously lacking in that department over the past few years. Now I've always assumed the entire staff evaluated kids, or at least their respective side of the ball. So either A) it was Diaco all along or B) there has been a serious change in recruiting philosophy conveniently coinciding with a chance of DC and with, at the time, about a month left in the recruiting cycle. Which do you think is more likely?

And for the record, I never thought he was as good as last year's team made him look. Call me a revisionist too if you want, but he's been in my doghouse ever since the Navy game in 2010.
 
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