'12 CA CB Tee Shepard (Ole Miss Transfer)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> getting involved with Goodman (Calif.) Holmes J.C DB Tee Shepard, could Trojans be team to beat? <a href="http://t.co/Xs2udZkbtw">http://t.co/Xs2udZkbtw</a></p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/413008316827045888">December 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Ha, crazy.

I'll be happy for Tee no matter where he ends up, but man I'd hate to play against him. Still love the guy too much.
 

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TIFWIW A poster on USC's 24/7 board asked if SC was recruiting Tee yetsterday and Scott Schrader replied with a simple, "No."
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> getting involved with Goodman (Calif.) Holmes J.C DB Tee Shepard, could Trojans be team to beat? <a href="http://t.co/Xs2udZkbtw">http://t.co/Xs2udZkbtw</a></p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/413008316827045888">December 17, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Ugh, figures. Watch this kid finally get it together for a friggin hated rival.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>Goodman (Miss.) Holmes JC DB Tee Shepard has locked in OVs with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Oklahoma&src=hash">#Oklahoma</a> (Jan. 17), <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> (Jan. 24)</p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/418994486912360448">January 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>Goodman (Miss.) Holmes JC DB Tee Shepard has locked in OVs with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Oklahoma&src=hash">#Oklahoma</a> (Jan. 17), <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> (Jan. 24)</p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/418994486912360448">January 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hope he goes to OU, IF he can get in.
 

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Ugh. Please not SC.

Chris Hawkins' dad just said that he thinks Tee is 99% to USC, and he would know.

Thing is, academics could put a stop to that. He still might not be able to qualify for USC. First off, they always have a hard time getting Jucos qualified on time. Secondly, he's been to 2 (maybe 3?) Jucos already, and he'll probably have to go to another one for this last semester.

So, this one is far from over. Dude needs to get his academic **** together.
 

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how many years of JUCO ball can a kid play? Each year counts as a year of overall NCAA elgibility right?
 

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Chris Hawkins' dad just said that he thinks Tee is 99% to USC, and he would know.

Thing is, academics could put a stop to that. He still might not be able to qualify for USC. First off, they always have a hard time getting Jucos qualified on time. Secondly, he's been to 2 (maybe 3?) Jucos already, and he'll probably have to go to another one for this last semester.

So, this one is far from over. Dude needs to get his academic **** together.

Yeah. It sucks because he seems like a nice kid, but until I see Tee in uniform on game day for an FBS program, I'll be skeptical of anything I read about where he's heading.
 

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I will not be a happy camper to see him in a USC jersey. No way.
 

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Still not able to qualify:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One-time 5-star <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ND&src=hash">#ND</a> CB signee RT <a href="https://twitter.com/TeeShepard1">@TeeShepard1</a>: I will not sign next month. I will play my soph. season at a Juco in California this season</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BFeldmanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/statuses/423118587423776769">January 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Still not able to qualify:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One-time 5-star <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ND&src=hash">#ND</a> CB signee RT <a href="https://twitter.com/TeeShepard1">@TeeShepard1</a>: I will not sign next month. I will play my soph. season at a Juco in California this season</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BFeldmanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/statuses/423118587423776769">January 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!


What a waste.
 

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Still not able to qualify:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One-time 5-star <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ND&src=hash">#ND</a> CB signee RT <a href="https://twitter.com/TeeShepard1">@TeeShepard1</a>: I will not sign next month. I will play my soph. season at a Juco in California this season</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BFeldmanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/statuses/423118587423776769">January 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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He must still be getting poor career guidance.
 

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It feels like this has been going on for 8 years.

Weird to think that he still has 3 years of eligibility.
 
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I really think that Tee has done well with the gifts and limitations he has. I don't think fitting into a classroom environment is as easy for him as some may think.

Is is good to put goals that may be out of reach in a kids head? Yes. In days past this kid would have been drugged, and stored in a closet. (Hyperbole bordering on parable.)

My question is, "Will this kid get a shot at the NFL next year?"
 

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He must still be getting poor career guidance.

Or he's one of those kids that because of his athletic prowess in his younger days was given a free pass and never learned a good work ethic. I have no reason to believe he's not a good kid, but he's had a number of chances to get things in order and keeps falling short. He may not of had the best support system, but he's at the age where he should be able to figure out how to get the support he needs to succeed. IMO, he's just not motivated.
 

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Or he's one of those kids that because of his athletic prowess in his younger days was given a free pass and never learned a good work ethic. I have no reason to believe he's not a good kid, but he's had a number of chances to get things in order and keeps falling short. He may not of had the best support system, but he's at the age where he should be able to figure out how to get the support he needs to succeed. IMO, he's just not motivated.

I think BGIF agrees with you. I feel like his post was sarcastic, just without the font.

What's that old saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
 
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Or he's one of those kids that because of his athletic prowess in his younger days was given a free pass and never learned a good work ethic. I have no reason to believe he's not a good kid, but he's had a number of chances to get things in order and keeps falling short. He may not of had the best support system, but he's at the age where he should be able to figure out how to get the support he needs to succeed. IMO, he's just not motivated.

In my opinion, Tee has a low-average IQ, several learning and physical disabilities, and comes from a disadvantaged but loving background.

The disadvantaged part seems only to have affected diagnostics, especially early, and some availability of programs to help at an early age. I just spent time in conversation with a young man this weekend that is 22, and works pushing shopping carts. He does not have the athletic abilities that Tee does.

But he comes from money, and has many more social skills, even though he suffers from a spectral disorder, similar to what Tee must. It is like night and day. With many of these kids it isn't motivation, it is application, or aptitude.

I have seen evidence that when Tee trains for football, he trains hard. He has the motivation, and the ability to apply it to physical training. Maybe not so much at academics, or life skills.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>DB Tee Shepard will play at Contra Costa JC (Calif) next fall had OVs set with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Oklahoma&src=hash">#Oklahoma</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> next 2 weeks but won't visit until next fall</p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/423134827634638848">January 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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In my opinion, Tee has a low-average IQ, several learning and physical disabilities, and comes from a disadvantaged but loving background.

The disadvantaged part seems only to have affected diagnostics, especially early, and some availability of programs to help at an early age. I just spent time in conversation with a young man this weekend that is 22, and works pushing shopping carts. He does not have the athletic abilities that Tee does.

But he comes from money, and has many more social skills, even though he suffers from a spectral disorder, similar to what Tee must. It is like night and day. With many of these kids it isn't motivation, it is application, or aptitude.

I have seen evidence that when Tee trains for football, he trains hard. He has the motivation, and the ability to apply it to physical training. Maybe not so much at academics, or life skills.

are you saying the person has Autism as this is a spectrum disorder?
if this is correct, there is NOTHING to suggest that is Tee's issues are in the classroom
 
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Honestly, all of this makes me think of the end of the Faith No More "Epic" video where the fish is just flopping around on the floor.... You want to help, but you know there is nothing you can do, and it is sad. Apparently no animals were harmed making that video, so that makes me feel better, but good lord...
After all this time... I still feel this way.

I would be shocked if he makes it to a FBS school at this point.
 
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Bogtrotter07

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are you saying the person has Autism as this is a spectrum disorder?
if this is correct, there is NOTHING to suggest that is Tee's issues are in the classroom

Penn, a chara,

I am sorry. I didn't get what you were asking me. Are you stating that Tee does not have problems with grades, and test results? There are like fifteen-hundred "spectrum disorders." Most of which are wiring issues. The person of whom I speak has hearing and speech deficiencies as does Tee.

Also, people want to divide things into classroom and social-communications. There are more than these two different areas which spectrum disorders can affect. There are all kinds of things about organization, attention, and focus that play into this conversation.

The young man that I was speaking with could do math (basic functions) beyond what I am used to seeing out of college students. Way beyond. But he had to spend a year learning the most basic budgeting issues. Look to esoteric or abstract personal resource planning issues. Not complex ones.


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I think BGIF agrees with you. I feel like his post was sarcastic, just without the font.

What's that old saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


You read it correctly. I wouldn't use a different font if I was writing or typing to you.

Regardless of Tee's early years, he was recruited by ND since 2010 when I opened this thread. ND's academic requirements were no secret unleashed upon at the 11th hour. Neither were the NCAA's requirements. His teachers and coaches may not have been familiar with ND's requirements but the NCAA's are common knowledge.

Tee on his initiative changed schools entering his senior year supposedly to better his academic skills. Due to a state regulation where he lived he was ruled ineligible to play football leaving him free to focus on academics.

He showed up at ND as an EE, early entrance. ND supposedly screens EE's with more diligence as they don't come start First Year of Studies in the Fall but jump in for the second semester. Concern over adjustment to college life and academic rigors was the prime reason Malloy and Admissions had opposed EE for so long. First Year of Studies was designed to work a student in ND life and it,s track record was very good.

On the basis of his presence at ND it was assumed everything was copecetic. Then it was reported here that he was attending class. Then he was leaving which he subsequently attributed to a congenital heart defect detected during a physical exam. IF he had a football career ending injury, ND would have honored the scholarship on a non-athletic basis as they have done in the past with student athletes that we're injured before enrollment. But Tee left ND.

Reading between the lines I assumed he had an NCAA Clearinghouse problem which is common among HS recruits with more than one school and more than one transcript. The NCAA may accept Math 100 from school A but not from school B or vice versa as they've determined that the Math 100 coursework at one school does not to meet NCAA Core Course requirements. The problem arises when the student takes Math 100 at school A then transfers to school B. school B may accept the credits but the Clearinghouse may not.

So a recruit needing 4 approved Math classes may have only 3 accepted by the NCAA. A college could waive that for a non-athletic scholarship but the NCAA certifies every athlete on scholarship. A student athlete can not play in a sport nor receive a scholarship until approved by the Clearinghouse (which has changed its name to The Eligibilty Center).

The younger Wisne had a Clearinghouse issue and was held out for the first month or more until the NCAA ruled on the acceptability of one required course. I've read of other HS students taking a HS summer class after graduation because of a Clearinghouse core course issue.

Its been two years since Tee ND. If it was a missing core class he could have retaken it. So that doesn't appear to be the issue. IF it was HS GPA/Test Score on the NCAA Sliding Scale (the higher the GPA the lower the Test Score can be and vice versa. The minimum GPA is 2.0 now.

The NCAA allows a non-qualifier to retake the Test (SAT or ACT) as many times as necessary OR you may go to an approved JUCO and get a two year degree and then transfer into a Div 1 school that will accept you. So there's a choice 1. Qualifying GPA/Test Score or 2. JUCO.

Recently Tee supposedly retook the Test and apparently didn't get the required score so it's the JUCO degree route which might get him in OU or UA but isn't getting him into ND, Stanford, etc.

Regardless of what guidance de got or didn't get in HS he's been out of HS for two years and he still can not be certified by the NCAA. He could have taken all the NCAA required Core Courses over agin in that period.

I've never met him so I can't attest to his IQ as some will based on internet posts. Regardless of a guidance issue, or study habit issue, or a more fundamental one he's had 6 years to meet the requirements.



IF he can't do the HS work satisfactorily, where's the humanity in throwing him into a classroom full of highly academically motivated students with average test score of 1350 (two parts) and Top 5% of their HS class.

In another thread today I commented on James Brooks who played 4 years at Auburn and is a functional illiterate. Through 13 years of American education elementary school, high school, and college, Brooks was passed along despite not being able to read because he could run like a bull. Shame on the educators and shame on Brooks. He wasn't responsible when he was a child but as a adult HE was irresponsible.


Best wishes to Tee finding his niche in life or carving himself a new one as he masters the skills along the way. But he has to master them not get a pass because he can catch passes.
 

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You read it correctly. I wouldn't use a different font if I was writing or typing to you.

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Best wishes to Tee finding his niche in life or carving himself a new one as he masters the skills along the way. But he has to master them not get a pass because he can catch passes.

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