'14 IN OLB/S Drue Tranquill (Notre Dame Man)

[Domina Nostra]

Holley was not rated at all last year, and now he sits at 5-stars, because he went to camps and put in film [and is a 6'4, 285 lb giant with legit speed]. That's how it works.

There you go...

 

[irishff1014]

I could care less how many stars Drue has. If he signs his LOI, which I would expect him to do, he'll be a Notre Dame man and thats all that matters. Who gives a [Mark May] how many stars he has, he wants to be here when other talents did not. That's the important part.

HAHA awesome.

 

[JughedJones]

Can someone just edit his profile to include his ****ing 4 star rating so some of these people can take a breath?

 

[Booslum31]

Can someone just edit his profile to include his ****ing 4 star rating so some of these people can take a breath?

Year...and on the Commitment list is lists him as being from Virginia...not Indiana

 

[CanadalovesND]

Year...and on the Commitment list is lists him as being from Virginia...not Indiana

Say what? Which site? Scout, ESPN, Rivals and 24/7 all say "Fort Wayne, Indiana"

 

[woolybug25]

Can someone just edit his profile to include his ****ing 4 star rating so some of these people can take a breath?

ha... cuz 247 and Scout (lolz) made him a 4 star when it was apparent he was committing to us? He's still a composite 3 star and his star rating isn't the root cause of concern.

Either way, I hope we can all just hope for the best with Drue and appreciate the fact that he is part of the Irish family. We all want him to do well, but that doesn't mean we cant give honest feedback on his skillset.

I just hope, as I mentioned previously, that people have patience with him. It would be shocking to me if he was an immediate impact guy, despite our lack of depth at the position. He needs to gain weight (without losing his speed), get a better football IQ and develop his game at a fairly unfamiliar position. He seems like a great kid that is willing to put in the work to do so though, so I will be rooting for him.

 

[woolybug25]

Year...and on the Commitment list is lists him as being from Virginia...not Indiana

wut?

 

[IrishLion]

wut?

Front page of IE, lists him as from Virginia.

 

[GATTACA!]

kap, martin, council, and GAIII were 3* on scout, , shembo and spond 3* on 24/7

Still looks like a 3* to me

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm guessing they copied greers and forgot to change state

 

[JughedJones]

ha... cuz 247 and Scout (lolz) made him a 4 star when it was apparent he was committing to us? He's still a composite 3 star and his star rating isn't the root cause of concern.

Either way, I hope we can all just hope for the best with Drue and appreciate the fact that he is part of the Irish family. We all want him to do well, but that doesn't mean we cant give honest feedback on his skillset.

I just hope, as I mentioned previously, that people have patience with him. It would be shocking to me if he was an immediate impact guy, despite our lack of depth at the position. He needs to gain weight (without losing his speed), get a better football IQ and develop his game at a fairly unfamiliar position. He seems like a great kid that is willing to put in the work to do so though, so I will be rooting for him.

I'm totally with you man. I'm just saying if most of these people click on his profile and see two 4*s then it would end a lot of this idiocy.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Still looks like a 3* to me

Yet he leads the team in rushing, YPC and T-1st in rushing TDs

 

[Son of Kenmare]

Yet he leads the team in rushing, YPC and T-1st in rushing TDs

Oh and he wasn't tackled until 5 and a half minutes into his highlight film.

 

[Redbar]

Was talking with someone who coached for over 40 years, won a national championship with Ara, coached in the league for 21 years with four teams, Defensive coordinator with two teams. I remember him telling me the difference in athletic ability between Jerry Rice and tons of guys that don't even make a squad is next to nothing. What separates athletes is work ethic, intelligence, and desire (same things that separate doctors, lawyers, and indian chiefs). He said he would take a guy with average to good athletic ability, that you could trust to be where he was supposed to be, would give everything in his being and that hated to lose more than somebody that had tons of athletic ability and average amounts of those things I listed.

Point is, of course there is a prerequisite amount of skill needed, but by everyone's account Drue is an intelligent, high character, teammate that wanted to be at Notre Dame so bad that he went against his commitment (that he took very seriously) to another university. He is going to play at a position of great need, he is ours now. Why some feel the need to continually frame this reality with THEIR assumptions of who he is or what he can do, what his ceiling will be, is beyond me.

Very glad to have you, Drue. Period.

 

[JughedJones]

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[CanadalovesND]

Not sure if already posted, but here are his senior highlights:

Senior Season Highlights

 

[GATTACA!]

Yet he leads the team in rushing, YPC and T-1st in rushing TDs

Extrapolate TFs attempts and he would be 40ish yards ahead of GAIII. Also at this point as a freshman TFs YPC is .1 behind GA.

Also just because a player leads the team doesn't mean they are playing great. TR leads the team in every passing stat, guess he's playing like a 5*

 

[rtrn2glory]

Was talking with someone who coached for over 40 years, won a national championship with Ara, coached in the league for 21 years with four teams, Defensive coordinator with two teams. I remember him telling me the difference in athletic ability between Jerry Rice and tons of guys that don't even make a squad is next to nothing. What separates athletes is work ethic, intelligence, and desire (same things that separate doctors, lawyers, and indian chiefs). He said he would take a guy with average to good athletic ability, that you could trust to be where he was supposed to be, would give everything in his being and that hated to lose more than somebody that had tons of athletic ability and average amounts of those things I listed.

Point is, of course there is a prerequisite amount of skill needed, but by everyone's account Drue is an intelligent, high character, teammate that wanted to be at Notre Dame so bad that he went against his commitment (that he took very seriously) to another university. He is going to play at a position of great need, he is ours now. Why some feel the need to continually frame this reality with THEIR assumptions of who he is or what he can do, what his ceiling will be, is beyond me.

Very glad to have you, Drue. Period.

agree with this 90% and i totally get where he's coming from.

but as a coach you always think you can get that stud to the next level. the athletic ability in a lot of cases makes your job a lot easier.

 

[Irishfan33]

I don't think stars have much, if anything to do with region. It's all about publicity. A player that sends in a ton of film and visits a bunch of camps will be rated higher than somebody who has very little film and goes to no camps. That is why Trumbetti is only a 3-star on Rivals, even though he was selected as a UA All-American. Thomas Holley, Isaiah McKenzie, Matt Dickerson and yes, even Drue Tranquill are in the same boat. Holley was not rated at all last year, and now he sits at 5-stars, because he went to camps and put in film. That's how it works.

Holly= The next Tyler Stockton

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Front page of IE, lists him as from Virginia.

Let's keep the recruits Virginity out of this!

Anyone have some facts and figures on what Harrison Smith was rated? How about Zeke Mota?


(Silence falls over the smoke filled room. All heads turn, the crowd separates. An accurate stranger named Whiskey draws his stick and lines up his shot . . . )


EDIT : Watched the posted highlights; 1) There were a lot, 2) The whole team looked well coached and fundamentally sound, 3) This kid has it.

It includes work ethic, desire, and belief in self and team.

 

[Luckylucci]

Holly= The next Tyler Stockton

U serious? I really hope thats not what ND pays you for. I know that sounds rude but one guy is 5'11 284 and the other is 6'4 285+ as a HS senior. Those are two completely different body types and after watching video of the both you can easily see a difference in athleticism. I'm assuming you forgot italics.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

(Silence falls over the smoke filled room. All heads turn, the crowd separates. An accurate stranger named Whiskey draws his stick and lines up his shot . . . )

You rang?

Harry was rated as a 4 (25th S) by both Rivals and Scout. Zeke was much more highly touted-- 4 by both Rivals and Scout (5th S/ 10th WLB, respectively). ESPN (lol) rated both as high 3s.

 

[Emcee77]

U serious? I really hope thats not what ND pays you for. I know that sounds rude but one guy is 5'11 284 and the other is 6'4 285+ as a HS senior. Those are two completely different body types and after watching video of the both you can easily see a difference in athleticism. I'm assuming you forgot italics.

We are veering off-topic, but I was just going to type the same thing. Stockton is 5'11'' and when you are distributing 285 over that frame you are not likely to have as much athleticism as a guy distributing it over a longer frame, and that's clearly the case with Stockton as compared with some of our other DL and DL prospects.

But I get the point ... Holley is a top-rated DL from the NE, just like Stockton.

 

[gkIrish]

Holly= The next Tyler Stockton

I'm confused. I love Stockton's leadership and effort, but he has clearly achieved very little on the field in his career at ND. So are you saying Holley will be a bust?

 

[Emcee77]

I'm confused. I love Stockton's leadership and effort, but he has clearly achieved very little on the field in his career at ND. So are you saying Holley will be a bust?

Yeah. It's a borderline popular opinion right now, with Urbie dropping Holley after seeing his senior film.

 

[Cackalacky]

I honestly don't see 5 stars out of Holley. I have a terrible eye though. I also don't like that he is a project even by his own admission. He has physical tools for sure.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You rang?

Harry was rated as a 4 (25th S) by both Rivals and Scout. Zeke was much more highly touted-- 4 by both Rivals and Scout (5th S/ 10th WLB, respectively). ESPN (lol) rated both as high 3s.

Don't know about you guys, but this is what I would be discussing (in Drue's thread)!

Go raibh maith agat, Whiskey!

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Holly= The next Tyler Stockton

3...2....

 

[Pachuco]

Was talking with someone who coached for over 40 years, won a national championship with Ara, coached in the league for 21 years with four teams, Defensive coordinator with two teams. I remember him telling me the difference in athletic ability between Jerry Rice and tons of guys that don't even make a squad is next to nothing. What separates athletes is work ethic, intelligence, and desire (same things that separate doctors, lawyers, and indian chiefs). He said he would take a guy with average to good athletic ability, that you could trust to be where he was supposed to be, would give everything in his being and that hated to lose more than somebody that had tons of athletic ability and average amounts of those things I listed.

Point is, of course there is a prerequisite amount of skill needed, but by everyone's account Drue is an intelligent, high character, teammate that wanted to be at Notre Dame so bad that he went against his commitment (that he took very seriously) to another university. He is going to play at a position of great need, he is ours now. Why some feel the need to continually frame this reality with THEIR assumptions of who he is or what he can do, what his ceiling will be, is beyond me.

Very glad to have you, Drue. Period.

As always, right on, brother.

Drue will do big things at ND. Welcome!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Was talking with someone who coached for over 40 years, won a national championship with Ara, coached in the league for 21 years with four teams, Defensive coordinator with two teams. I remember him telling me the difference in athletic ability between Jerry Rice and tons of guys that don't even make a squad is next to nothing. What separates athletes is work ethic, intelligence, and desire (same things that separate doctors, lawyers, and indian chiefs). He said he would take a guy with average to good athletic ability, that you could trust to be where he was supposed to be, would give everything in his being and that hated to lose more than somebody that had tons of athletic ability and average amounts of those things I listed.

Point is, of course there is a prerequisite amount of skill needed, but by everyone's account Drue is an intelligent, high character, teammate that wanted to be at Notre Dame so bad that he went against his commitment (that he took very seriously) to another university. He is going to play at a position of great need, he is ours now. Why some feel the need to continually frame this reality with THEIR assumptions of who he is or what he can do, what his ceiling will be, is beyond me.

Very glad to have you, Drue. Period.

The guys at 247 have basically said the same thing. I think last year they were talking about running back recruits on Bill King's show and they said the difference between the #3 rated RB and the # 23 rated RB is very small. They said they rank them based upon the physical tools that they see, but the difference between who succeeds in college has more to do with who is willing to put in the work and who has the mental toughness.