'14 OH ATH Sam Hubbard (Ohio State Verbal)

[Bluto]

All these dudes seem to be in the same ball park.

Grant Blankenship
Texas 6'5" | 235 | 4.75
Defensive Line

Jonathan Bonner
Missouri 6'4" | 240 | 4.8
Defensive Line

Matt Dickerson
California 6'5" | 275 | 4.9
Defensive Line

Jay Hayes
New York 6'5" | 270 | NA
Defensive Line

Andrew Trumbetti
New Jersey 6'5" | 250 | NA
Defensive Line

Yeargin too I suppose. Not sayin I wouldn't take the kid seems like Troy Nicholas part duex.

 

[IrishLax]

All these dudes seem to be in the same ball park.

Grant Blankenship
Texas 6'5" | 235 | 4.75
Defensive Line

Jonathan Bonner
Missouri 6'4" | 240 | 4.8
Defensive Line

Matt Dickerson
California 6'5" | 275 | 4.9
Defensive Line

Jay Hayes
New York 6'5" | 270 | NA
Defensive Line

Andrew Trumbetti
New Jersey 6'5" | 250 | NA
Defensive Line

None of those guys are even close to the athletic profile of Hubbard. I mean just look at his picture on the front page... and tell me if that looks like Jay Hayes.

Jay Hayes = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Matt Dickerson = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Trumbetti, Blankenship, and Bonner are all varying levels of CAT/DE and were mainly recruited for their pass rushing potential. Same applies to Yeargin, but he has more flexibility.

Hubbard is a long, fast "big skill" type of athlete. He's been recruited primarily as a TE/WOLB/FS by most schools. At ND he would play DOG or the "star" position Slaughter played at times or some sort of edge setting OLB. He *might* have some ILB potential situationally.

The only guys even close to him right now in terms of physical traits would be Yeargin and Blankenship... but neither really does what he does. Hubbard has no real pass rushing ability to speak of, and alternatively you would never see Yeargin/Blankenship line up at FS.

Luatua is kind of close physically in what he could bring as an OLB. And Tranquill is like a miniature version of Hubbard. But none of the current commits really fit Hubbard's mold.

 

[Bluto]

None of those guys are even close to the athletic profile of Hubbard. I mean just look at his picture on the front page... and tell me if that looks like Jay Hayes.

Jay Hayes = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Matt Dickerson = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Trumbetti, Blankenship, and Bonner are all varying levels of CAT/DE and were mainly recruited for their pass rushing potential. Same applies to Yeargin, but he has more flexibility.

Hubbard is a long, fast "big skill" type of athlete. He's been recruited primarily as a TE/WOLB/FS by most schools. At ND he would play DOG or the "star" position Slaughter played at times or some sort of edge setting OLB. He *might* have some ILB potential situationally.

The only guys even close to him right now in terms of physical traits would be Yeargin and Blankenship... but neither really does what he does. Hubbard has no real pass rushing ability to speak of, and alternatively you would never see Yeargin/Blankenship line up at FS.

Luatua is kind of close physically in what he could bring as an OLB. And Tranquill is like a miniature version of Hubbard. But none of the current commits really fit Hubbard's mold.

If he's that big and fast D line would seem like the way to go in my opinion. A 6'6" free safety would be interesting though.

 

[IrishLax]

If he's that big and fast D line would seem like the way to go in my opinion. A 6'6" free safety would be interesting though.

I think he is too lean to play DL. I don't think he really has the broad frame to pack on the good weight he would need to play there, and I also don't know if he'd be able to develop the requisite power.

But this is all just my opinion and what I've heard... I could be off, and it really wouldn't matter as he's not coming here.

Also, I've seen his height reported anywhere between 6'4" and 6'6" so I don't know quite how tall/lanky he is.

 

[STLDomer]

He was told recently by the Buckeye staff he will play SAM by the way

 

[rtrn2glory]

this guy could be the next luke kuechley

 

[garyasher]

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[Me2SouthBend]

None of those guys are even close to the athletic profile of Hubbard. I mean just look at his picture on the front page... and tell me if that looks like Jay Hayes.

Jay Hayes = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Matt Dickerson = DE/DT, big dude, slow
Trumbetti, Blankenship, and Bonner are all varying levels of CAT/DE and were mainly recruited for their pass rushing potential. Same applies to Yeargin, but he has more flexibility.

Hubbard is a long, fast "big skill" type of athlete. He's been recruited primarily as a TE/WOLB/FS by most schools. At ND he would play DOG or the "star" position Slaughter played at times or some sort of edge setting OLB. He *might* have some ILB potential situationally.

The only guys even close to him right now in terms of physical traits would be Yeargin and Blankenship... but neither really does what he does. Hubbard has no real pass rushing ability to speak of, and alternatively you would never see Yeargin/Blankenship line up at FS.

Luatua is kind of close physically in what he could bring as an OLB. And Tranquill is like a miniature version of Hubbard. But none of the current commits really fit Hubbard's mold.

So am I understanding your comment correctly that you'd prefer Hubbard over Hayes? You speak glowingly of Hubbard in part because of a still photo on the front page (at least that's how you are basing your pov), and you describe Hayes in part as slow.

 

[tko]

Kelly: Sam, we finally got around to watching your film and we like what we see. We'd like to offer you a scholarship to play football at the University of No-Trah Dame.

Sam: Coach Kelly, I'm flattered by the offer but Kerry Coombs was all over me from day 1. He and Coach Meyer are clearly tremendous judges of talent. Oh, and Coach Coombs wanted me to let you know that Cincy is his town and best of luck down the road.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Kelly: Sam, we finally got around to watching your film and we like what we see. We'd like to offer you a scholarship to play football at the University of No-Trah Dame.

Sam: Coach Kelly, I'm flattered by the offer but Kerry Coombs was all over me from day 1. He and Coach Meyer are clearly tremendous judges of talent. Oh, and Coach Coombs wanted me to let you know that Cincy is his town and best of luck down the road.

good stuff right there

 

[Rack Em]

So am I understanding your comment correctly that you'd prefer Hubbard over Hayes? You speak glowingly of Hubbard in part because of a still photo on the front page (at least that's how you are basing your pov), and you describe Hayes in part as slow.

Not really. Lax differentiated between their positions:

Hayes is a DL and by nature is slow
Hubbard is a pure athlete who fits the DOG profile well; Hayes just doesn't fit that profile at all.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Not really. Lax differentiated between their positions:

Hayes is a DL and by nature is slow
Hubbard is a pure athlete who fits the DOG profile well; Hayes just doesn't fit that profile at all.

Got that, I certainly don't think we can compare and contrast players that will undoubtedly have such differing roles on the team. I certainly get comparing Hubbard to some of the more recent offers or names of potential offers that are swirling out there. The kid that was apparently offered yesterday (Mizzou commit) would certainly be a good comp. Is Hubbard similar to Farley in terms of his lack of football experience prior to his Senior year (not his Football IQ, athleticism, skill set, etc.)? As we know Farley was a soccer player prior to his Senior year and I'm not sure if Hubbard has alot of prior playing experience that the staff could have drawn from prior to his Senior year tape. By looking at his recruiting rankings, it doesn't seem as if the Recruiting sites have paid him much attention or hadn't prior to this season.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Hubbard is a pure athlete who fits the DOG profile well

Which, for me, is the only thing forgiving the staff on not being on Sam Hubbard when they "had the chance."

It is an unforced error though, no question about it. But we'll never know if, in his mind, it always went: Ohio State football > Notre Dame football > Notre Dame lacrosse > Ohio State lacrosse. You know?

Plus in the Ohio State recruiting wars, if I'm trading Taylor Decker and Sam Hubbard for Jaylon Smith and Mike Heuerman...I'm making the trade every time..

 

[Rack Em]

Which, for me, is the only thing forgiving the staff on not being on Sam Hubbard when they "had the chance."

It is an unforced error though, no question about it. But we'll never know if, in his mind, it always went: Ohio State football > Notre Dame football > Notre Dame lacrosse > Ohio State lacrosse. You know?

Plus is the Ohio State recruiting wars, if I'm trading Taylor Decker and Sam Hubbard for Jaylon Smith and Mike Heuerman...I'm making the trade every time..

Good points.

But the staff knew before the summer that this was going to be a larger recruiting class with several needs in the front 7. Why not put an offer out there/communicate better with Hubbard?

It just seems so Weis-esque to let a solid athlete get away while chasing some Reel Big Fish (cough....Ego Ferguson...cough)? I would be inclined to give them a pass if this class were topping out at 17-19.

Just let me be angry!

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Alright, since his thread was bumped I am going to make you all watch and be pissed more...

Senior Highlights:
Senior Season

 

[IrishLax]

Alright, since his thread was bumped I am going to make you all watch and be pissed more...

Senior Highlights:
Senior Season

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

 

[IrishLax]

So am I understanding your comment correctly that you'd prefer Hubbard over Hayes? You speak glowingly of Hubbard in part because of a still photo on the front page (at least that's how you are basing your pov), and you describe Hayes in part as slow.

No, not at all. I'm just saying they play completely different positions and shouldn't be compared. Hayes is a big, strong body who will play a power position on the line. He's also slow.

Hubbard is a lean, tall fast S/LB hybrid right now who is probably best suited skill wise for DOG/STAR in our system after he packs on weight... or maybe the coverage LB in Dime packages. He doesn't look to have the build/power to play anywhere on the line, whereas Hayes doesn't have the speed and athleticism to roam the field in coverage.

 

[Wild Bill]

This is irritating. Kid can play.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wow, that is quite the highlight tape. Staff definitely dropped the ball on this one. Hopefully I don't have to say that anymore this cycle.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

No, not at all. I'm just saying they play completely different positions and shouldn't be compared. Hayes is a big, strong body who will play a power position on the line. He's also slow.

Hubbard is a lean, tall fast S/LB hybrid right now who is probably best suited skill wise for DOG/STAR in our system after he packs on weight... or maybe the coverage LB in Dime packages. He doesn't look to have the build/power to play anywhere on the line, whereas Hayes doesn't have the speed and athleticism to roam the field in coverage.

Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[woolybug25]

I really wish that the lacrosse coach and BVG could stop by to chat with this young man.

 

[EuropeanDomer]

I read on bucknuts some people who think he will end as a safety, that would be a 6'6 safety lol. I assume that here he would be a DOG and not a CAT like Yeargin.

 

[IrishLax]

I read on bucknuts some people who think he will end as a safety, that would be a 6'6 safety lol. I assume that here he would be a DOG and not a CAT like Yeargin.

Dog and Cat do not exist anymore.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Dog and Cat do not exist anymore.

thank god

 

[greyhammer90]

Dog and Cat do not exist anymore.

Holy shit had not thought of that.

 

[LoveThee]

Really doubting he would flip. I am in the Ohio State class of 2018 facebook group and Sam posts in it somewhat regularly and is treated like a king. He seems to really like OSU

 

[IrishLax]

Really doubting he would flip. I am in the Ohio State class of 2018 facebook group and Sam posts in it somewhat regularly and is treated like a king. He seems to really like OSU

You're right, he's 100% locked in to OSU. No chance of him flipping back.

 

[Rack Em]

You're right, he's 100% locked in to OSU. No chance of him flipping back.

One thing I won't miss about Diaco is his narrow-minded approach to recruiting.

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

One thing I won't miss about Diaco is his narrow-minded approach to recruiting.

I think the best part about his strict requirements is that he would never have recruited himself to play at the college level due to his size. I always thought it was ironic but he's the college coach and not me

 

[rtrn2glory]

any chance we can break the "Urban's on crack" rumor in time to flip Sam back to the good guys??