'12 CA CB Tee Shepard (Ole Miss Transfer)

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I hope this is true, I want nothing but for Tee to do well.

Me too.

 

[GATTACA!]

I hope this is true, I want nothing but for Tee to do well at ND.

FIFY

 

[Irishpinoy]

Can he come back to ND?

 

[ThePiombino]

Can he come back to ND?

Twas only a matter of time... *sigh*

 

[stlnd01]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Holmes CC’s <a href="https://twitter.com/TeeShepard1">@TeeShepard1</a> is back & picking up big offers. ($)<a href="http://t.co/3q2Co8DfOT">http://t.co/3q2Co8DfOT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Recruiting&src=hash">#Recruiting</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23USC&src=hash">#USC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cal&src=hash">#Cal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UCLA&src=hash">#UCLA</a> & more...</p>— Scout Recruiting (@scoutrecruiting) <a href="https://twitter.com/scoutrecruiting/statuses/390218200622702592">October 15, 2013</a></blockquote>
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USC? Can anyone read that?

 

[BoredIrish]

USC doesnt surprise me... they need corners.

What surprises me most is Cal... how can he qualify academically to get in there?

 

[RyCo1983]

USC doesnt surprise me... they need corners.

What surprises me most is Cal... how can he qualify academically to get in there?

Their football team has far different standards than non athletes.

FAR DIFFERENT

 

[BGIF]

I hope this is true, I want nothing but for Tee to do well.

Well keep in mind he didn't qualify to anywhere coming out of H.S. In order to be eligible to get a Div 1 Scholarship you have to be certified by the NCAA Elgibility Center, formerly known as the NCAA Clearinghouse. He didn't do that. In order to transfer into a Div 1 program he has to get certified by the Center (qualifying core courses, GPA, and Test Score ) or graduate with a year year degree.

So the offers he's getting now still require him to be certified by the Center Or get a 2 year degree.

It was always about Tee taking care of business. It still is.

 

[D-BOE34]

Figure it out, do it and grow young man. Hope he lands in a good spot for himself.

 

[dublinirish]

And I see it on a Scout twitter but I'm at a Frightened Rabbit concert and cant embed it.

love me some FR, saw them in Detroit and Dublin

 

[dublinirish]

USC doesnt surprise me... they need corners.

What surprises me most is Cal... how can he qualify academically to get in there?

Cal Football program is more on the lines of Oakland Community College Level academically than the actual University of California.

 

[GBdomer]

well heard the same stuff for two years now. Good luck Tee

 

[rtrn2glory]

urban's corners are terrible right now and i'm not surprised that he would turn anywhere to find help. not to mention tee would be physically ready to go by spring no doubt should he sign.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Roby is an AA candidate.

 

[wizards8507]

Why taking JUCOs matters. Just like one of dozens of SEC non-qualifiers every year that goes to JUCO and then onto college.

Go look at Oregon... they take multiple JUCOs every year. Alabama, USC, UCLA... you name it, they take JUCOs with a very high success rate. I wonder if we'll ever change our inane approach.

Is it a formal rule that we don't, or just "the way it is"? It doesn't make much sense considering ND admits "regular" transfer students all the time. Rudy was a JUCO.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Roby is an AA candidate.

he's sucked all year so far if you've watched any games...huge drop off from last year.

his legal trouble suspension really taking a toll early on...plus he'll graduate and be gone by next year

 

[Buster Bluth]

Roby is an AA candidate.

Nope

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Thanks for the clarification. I haven't seen OSU much this year, and was just going on mock drafts and early watch lists.

 

[GowerND11]

Is it a formal rule that we don't, or just "the way it is"? It doesn't make much sense considering ND admits "regular" transfer students all the time. Rudy was a JUCO.

It's more "just the way it is." It would be hard for a JUCO player to qualify academically for ND due to the transfer requirements. Plus ND may not accept credits from these schools or only partial credits.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

USC doesnt surprise me... they need corners.

What surprises me most is Cal... how can he qualify academically to get in there?

Cal has the worst African-American GSR (and the 2nd worst overall) in the FBS. They simply don't give a sh!t if you graduate.

Why taking JUCOs matters. Just like one of dozens of SEC non-qualifiers every year that goes to JUCO and then onto college.

Go look at Oregon... they take multiple JUCOs every year. Alabama, USC, UCLA... you name it, they take JUCOs with a very high success rate. I wonder if we'll ever change our inane approach.

There seem to be some insuperable barriers to ND taking JuCos. I'm not convinced it's the intellectual capacity of potential JuCo transfers; Aaron Lynch's academics were allegedly very borderline as a recruit , and he claimed many people told him he'd fail at ND, but he reportedly had a 3.0 GPA when he transferred out. Our athletes have so many resources at their disposal that few recruits are simply incapable of doing the work (character issues and desire seem to be stumbling blocks much more often).

But JuCos have the additional hurdle of needing their destination school to accept most of their already completed credits. I'd guess that's the real issue here. ND Admissions isn't willing to accept credits for Underwater Basketweaving 101 from the Chico State. Not sure how ND can resolve this issue without comprising its academic integrity.

Is it a formal rule that we don't, or just "the way it is"? It doesn't make much sense considering ND admits "regular" transfer students all the time. Rudy was a JUCO.

Rudy's not a good example. Like ND, Holy Cross is run by CSC priests and is located in Notre Dame, IN. Many applicants (including Rudy) who get rejected from ND go to Holy Cross with the express intention of working their way in down the road; so it's not your run-of-the-mill JuCo. And Holy Cross doesn't even have a football team, so it's not a realistic option for elite recruits anymore.

 

[IrishLax]

There seem to be some insuperable barriers to ND taking JuCos. I'm not convinced it's the intellectual capacity of potential JuCo transfers; Aaron Lynch's academics were allegedly very borderline as a recruit , and he claimed many people told him he'd fail at ND, but he reportedly had a 3.0 GPA when he transferred out. Our athletes have so many resources at their disposal that few recruits are simply incapable of doing the work (character issues and desire seem to be stumbling blocks much more often).

But JuCos have the additional hurdle of needing their destination school to accept most of their already completed credits. I'd guess that's the real issue here. ND Admissions isn't willing to accept credits for Underwater Basketweaving 101 from the Chico State. Not sure how ND can resolve this issue without comprising its academic integrity.

I think this is exactly the issue. Eventually, someone should wake up and realize that admitting 1 or 2 kids at most to the general student population that didn't take FYC, a seminar, and all that other Freshman curriculum isn't going to hurt your "academic integrity" one iota as long as they are capable of being good students once on campus. I'm OK with the administration putting their foot down on players with severe character flaws or who clearly won't be able to hack it at ND... but the obsession with credits has to stop, IMO. Nobody is giving them credit in the world of academia for being inflexible on these subjective lines in the sand, and no one will care if they make exceptions for capable students who don't have their credits quite in order.

Fin.

 

[anarin]

I would love a degree in underwater basket weaving from chico state.

Has to impress the ladies right?

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I would love a degree in underwater basket weaving from chico state.

Has to impress the ladies right?

It does sound dangerous.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think this is exactly the issue. Eventually, someone should wake up and realize that admitting 1 or 2 kids at most to the general student population that didn't take FYC, a seminar, and all that other Freshman curriculum isn't going to hurt your "academic integrity" one iota as long as they are capable of being good students once on campus. I'm OK with the administration putting their foot down on players with severe character flaws or who clearly won't be able to hack it at ND... but the obsession with credits has to stop, IMO. Nobody is giving them credit in the world of academia for being inflexible on these subjective lines in the sand, and no one will care if they make exceptions for capable students who don't have their credits quite in order.

Fin.

Yeah things like foreign language requirements kinda make me shake my head. Literally no one gives a **** the moment they're accepting into the university anyway.

I know a guy who transferred to Notre Dame from Toledo, and having gone to Toledo for two years I'm 100% sure it is, in its basic classes, the same exact thing as the local Owens Community College. Why shouldn't a kid be able to take a semester or two of transferable classes at a Jr College and transfer? It doesn't make sense to me.

Plus if many of these kids (and more importantly, coaches) knew Notre Dame was an option maybe they wouldn't be taking Underwater Basket Weaving so often?

 

[GowerND11]

Could we also potentially make an argument that recruits who end up at JuCos maybe do not even consider ND as a university they want to attend? They may also be in JuCo due to character issues in the first place. I think us getting JuCo players could offer great depth and potentially starting ability, but it's worth questioning if these players want to come to ND in the first place?

 

[IrishLax]

Could we also potentially make an argument that recruits who end up at JuCos maybe do not even consider ND as a university they want to attend? They may also be in JuCo due to character issues in the first place. I think us getting JuCo players could offer great depth and potentially starting ability, but it's worth questioning if these players want to come to ND in the first place?

I'm absolutely sure that lots would be interested. You're right that some will be bad fits, but a lot of JUCOs are there not even for academic/character reasons... they're there because they hadn't developed as football players yet and were late bloomers.

 

[Irish#1]

Cal has the worst African-American GSR (and the 2nd worst overall) in the FBS. They simply don't give a sh!t if you graduate.



There seem to be some insuperable barriers to ND taking JuCos. I'm not convinced it's the intellectual capacity of potential JuCo transfers; Aaron Lynch's academics were allegedly very borderline as a recruit , and he claimed many people told him he'd fail at ND, but he reportedly had a 3.0 GPA when he transferred out. Our athletes have so many resources at their disposal that few recruits are simply incapable of doing the work (character issues and desire seem to be stumbling blocks much more often).

But JuCos have the additional hurdle of needing their destination school to accept most of their already completed credits. I'd guess that's the real issue here. ND Admissions isn't willing to accept credits for Underwater Basketweaving 101 from the Chico State. Not sure how ND can resolve this issue without comprising its academic integrity.

Rudy's not a good example. Like ND, Holy Cross is run by CSC priests and is located in Notre Dame, IN. Many applicants (including Rudy) who get rejected from ND go to Holy Cross with the express intention of working their way in down the road; so it's not your run-of-the-mill JuCo. And Holy Cross doesn't even have a football team, so it's not a realistic option for elite recruits anymore.

You offend me Whiskey. I have a PhD in underwater basket weaving. Granted, it's from the University of Phoenix, but none the less.

There's our answer gentlemen. We get Holy Cross to start a football program, then all of those questionable kids can take a brief detour and then transfer to ND.

 

[Cackalacky]

I'm absolutely sure that lots would be interested. You're right that some will be bad fits, but a lot of JUCOs are there not even for academic/character reasons... they're there because they hadn't developed as football players yet and were late bloomers.

ND needs to be able to do what I know Georgia and So.Carolina do. Recruit players and the ones that do not quite cut it academically or on the field get sent to Georgia Military College or other JUCO until they are ready and then bring them back.

 

[phgreek]

I'm absolutely sure that lots would be interested. You're right that some will be bad fits, but a lot of JUCOs are there not even for academic/character reasons... they're there because they hadn't developed as football players yet and were late bloomers.

I see kids with DI offers choose not to go, and attend a JUCO close to home. For all the head scratching reasons we lose kids, I've heard same used to justify the JUCO route. I've even seen guys get to campus on a DI visit, see the guys on the team, and bolt to a JUCO near home. Scared, immature...whatever. Its like they can't see themselves strapping on 25 pounds of Rock, or whatever, so they leave, only to find out metabolism and genetics take care of it if they keep working...so Yea lots of late bloomers who have lots of regret...

Some portion of that group should be ok...by ND standards.

 

[dshans]

Please stop referring to or implying that Holy Cross is a "Juco" that only exists as a "feeder" for potential ND football players. While that may be the rare (Rudy) case, it is far from the norm. Nor should it be.

It is a four year college.

While there is definitely an academic connection between Notre Dame, and Holy Cross and Saint Mary's, they are all separate entities with four year undergraduate courses of study that lead to a respected degree.

Are some of you suggesting that HCC subjugate itself to ND (which to its credit St. Mary's rejected in 1970) to create a "feeder" for football players? Academic standards are academic standards. As are the academic rigors.

Were Notre Dame to decide to expand its undergraduate enrollment from 8,000 to 45,000 there might be a way to field a team, with marginal to non-student student athletes that is the "dream team" that some hope for. Ain't gunna happen.

Where would those extra 37,000 students be housed?