'13 CA DT Eddie Vanderdoes (UCLA)

[Junkhead]

I'll be the first to publically place my rooting interests for USC in the Clash of L.A.

I have a hard time ever wanting USC to win. I hope they win enough to keep Kiffin there, I guess.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

@EdwardLewisBSR: Vanderdoes said he had 4 reasons for wanting out of Notre Dame. The only one he'd elaborate on is ailing grandmother.

 

[NDPhilly]

I'm so sick of this "I swear I have a good reason, but I can't tell you" bullshit

 

[Junkhead]

@EdwardLewisBSR: Vanderdoes said he had 4 reasons for wanting out of Notre Dame. The only one he'd elaborate on is ailing grandmother.

1. Doesn't want to go class. 2. Not paid for playing college FB. 3. He's a pussy. 4. Ailing Grandmother.

I know, I know, it just felt right....

 

[T Town Tommy]

I have heard repeated rumors of a learning disorder. If that's the case, one would think that would affect his ability to play football anywhere.

 

[Rack Em]

I have heard repeated rumors of a learning disorder. If that's the case, one would think that would affect his ability to play football anywhere.

If that's true, there is no way in H-E-L-L that he was diagnosed in his last quarter of high school.

I'm sympathetic if that's the case, but that's bullshits.

 

[RyCo1983]

I have heard repeated rumors of a learning disorder. If that's the case, one would think that would affect his ability to play football anywhere.

I had not heard that...that would make it difficult to pick up any schematic stuff on his part for sure.

 

[STLDomer]

I have heard repeated rumors of a learning disorder. If that's the case, one would think that would affect his ability to play football anywhere.

Mike Frank of ISD heard when news broke that he was cleared he said he was autistic and pretty much said it was bullshit if he actually used that as an excuse.

EDIT: He said he heard Vanderdoes was going to try to claim he was Autistic with the NCAA and that ND was not set up to handle this.

After rereading the post he wasn't as dismissive of the notion as I remember, maybe that was just me.

 

[NDWorld247]

@EdwardLewisBSR: Vanderdoes said he had 4 reasons for wanting out of Notre Dame. The only one he'd elaborate on is ailing grandmother.

So Edward Lewis writes for the BS Report? This story seems right up his alley...

 

[koonja]

If true, that's crazy.

Our two last recruits with a 'disability' were 5-stars that signed with us, only to never come here (Tee, EV).

 

[STLDomer]

So if u believe rumors...

1. Needed another Spanish class that coaches didn't tell him about (Could have easily been taken over the summer)

2. Autistic and ND couldn't take care of him as well as UCLA

3. Sick Grandma at home (6ish hours away from UCLA IIRC)

4.

 

[Rack Em]

So if u believe rumors...

1. Needed another Spanish class that coaches didn't tell him about (Could have easily been taken over the summer)

2. Autistic and ND couldn't take care of him as well as UCLA

3. Sick Grandma at home (6ish hours away from UCLA IIRC)

4.

TJ explicitly ruled that out in a post last week.

 

[NDPhilly]

 

[IrishLax]

So if u believe rumors...

1. Needed another Spanish class that coaches didn't tell him about (Could have easily been taken over the summer)

2. Autistic and ND couldn't take care of him as well as UCLA

3. Sick Grandma at home (6ish hours away from UCLA IIRC)

4.

Heh, if you're going off public rumors "#4" isn't hard SLUH... think back to the beginning... the very, very beginning of the drama........

 

[STLDomer]

Heh, if you're going off public rumors "#4" isn't hard SLUH... think back to the beginning... the very, very beginning of the drama........

Move him to NG or the NSD day debacle that lost the Vanderdoes parents trust haha

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

what ^ said

 

[NDinL.A.]

Mike Frank of ISD heard when news broke that he was cleared he said he was autistic and pretty much said it was bullshit if he actually used that as an excuse.

EDIT: He said he heard Vanderdoes was going to try to claim he was Autistic with the NCAA and that ND was not set up to handle this.

After rereading the post he wasn't as dismissive of the notion as I remember, maybe that was just me.

It was another poster from Auburn, CA, who had been all over the recruitment from the beginning, and whose son knows Eddie. When the rest of the world said we didn't have a chance, he kept saying EV was seriously considering ND.

Anyway, that poster finally came out again when he heard that EV might be saying it was because of autism, and said it was a major league lie and they were completely bullshitting everyone if that were the case. He did not sound happy at all lol.

TIFWIW, but that poster was always on top of things with that recruitment.

 

[Rack Em]

Gentlemen,

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Right. Lets assume that this rumor is true for a second. What is the argument for his release, exactly?

Are you going to try to be reasonable? I don't know if I'm down for that

 

[Pachuco]

 

[Anchorman]

I've never seen so many grown men act as though their buttocks are throbbing over a 18 year old kid they do not know, will not know, and in no meaningful way are impacted by.

 

[ulukinatme]

Wait...autism....wants to return to California...young prodigy...I've seen this movie before:

 

[STLDomer]

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[ulukinatme]

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[IrishLax]

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30% BS but he's honestly doing the best job he can handling these questions. Reporters want him so badly to take the bait so they have something to write a spicy article about.

 

[GreenSox04]

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What a ****ing loser, I'm sorry I gave this kid the benefit of the doubt throughout this whole thing. But after watching that, screw em.

A reporter asks you a question like that regarding the coaching staff you don't answer in part in that manner and then throw a "no comment" in the middle of it, I hate that.

Any advice to kids on signing day?

"Doesn't matter if you sign to a school, with the vanderdoes 4 point plan you'll be out of that NLOI in no time! Just follow the guidelines
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Just mention you have reasons, simple as that! Don't sign your life away to a school your not a 100% on.. Or do it.. Who cares!"

Just once Id like to see a reporter press him on his 4 reeasons to see how he would respond... "Can you elaborate on the 4 reeasons?" "No." Oh okay.. WHY.

As I believe Devon butler once said to a certain linebacker who fled in the eleventh hour of his EE... See you at the top, homie.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I brought this up with a couple of posters in PM. They thought I was trying to insult Eddie. It explains a lot. This behavior, seeing UCLA as close to home, so as not to have to break ties is just about on the mark. Most Asperger sufferers are intelligent, think Big Bang Theory on TV. I think if EV has a spectrum disorder it would be more along the lines of Aspergers:

Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger disorder (AD), is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests. It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of linguistic and cognitive development. Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical (peculiar, odd) use of language are frequently reported.[1][2]

The syndrome is named after the Austrian pediatrician Hans Asperger who, in 1944, studied and described children in his practice who lacked nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy.[3] The modern conception of Asperger syndrome came into existence in 1981[4] and went through a period of popularization,[5][6] becoming standardized as a diagnosis in the early 1990s. Many questions remain about aspects of the disorder.[7] There is doubt about whether it is distinct from high-functioning autism (HFA);[8] partly because of this, its prevalence is not firmly established.[1] It has been decided that the diagnosis of Asperger's be eliminated in DSM-5, to be replaced by a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder on a severity scale.[9]

The exact cause is unknown. Although research suggests the likelihood of a genetic basis,[1] there is no known genetic cause[10][11] and brain imaging techniques have not identified a clear common pathology.[1] There is no single treatment, and the effectiveness of particular interventions is supported by only limited data.[1] Intervention is aimed at improving symptoms and function. The mainstay of management is behavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and physical clumsiness.[12] Most children improve as they mature to adulthood, but social and communication difficulties may persist.[7] Some researchers and people with Asperger's have advocated a shift in attitudes toward the view that it is a difference, rather than a disability that must be treated or cured.[13][14]

Classification

Asperger syndrome (AS) is one of the autism spectrum disorders (ASD) or pervasive developmental disorders (PDD), which are a spectrum of psychological conditions that are characterized by abnormalities of social interaction and communication that pervade the individual's functioning, and by restricted and repetitive interests and behavior. Like other psychological development disorders, ASD begins in infancy or childhood, has a steady course without remission or relapse, and has impairments that result from maturation-related changes in various systems of the brain.[15] ASD, in turn, is a subset of the broader autism phenotype, which describes individuals who may not have ASD but do have autistic-like traits, such as social deficits.[16] Of the other four ASD forms, autism is the most similar to AS in signs and likely causes, but its diagnosis requires impaired communication and allows delay in cognitive development; Rett syndrome and childhood disintegrative disorder share several signs with autism but may have unrelated causes; and pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) is diagnosed when the criteria for a more specific disorder are unmet.[17] . . .

Characteristics

As a pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of behavior, activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[28] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject, one-sided verbosity, restricted prosody, and physical clumsiness are typical of the condition, but are not required for diagnosis.[8]

 

[OCIrish]

I brought this up with a couple of posters in PM. They thought I was trying to insult Eddie. It explains a lot. This behavior, seeing UCLA as close to home, so as not to have to break ties is just about on the mark. Most Asperger sufferers are intelligent, think Big Bang Theory on TV. I think if EV has a spectrum disorder it would be more along the lines of Aspergers:

Bogs, a coworker and good friend of mine has Aspergers.....and while he does fine in groups of large numbers, there are times when its been too long, you can tell.......his attitude and demeanor will change. He'll sometimes get short with people, and blatantly rude, because he gets overwhelmed at times. So.......if EV has this as an excuse, or any other form of Autism......UCLA just makes no sense, as its total student population is over 41k......but what the hell do I know, I'm just still simply amazed that the NCAA allowed this to happen without any form of explanation!!

 

[Cackalacky]

Can I ask a serious question? Why are people still talking about this guy? He did not want to be here. The NCAA allowed it, for whatever reason, and its over. No sense in trashing the guy. Now we are trying to diagnose him with some form of ASD?

 

[dublinirish]

Can I ask a serious question? Why are people still talking about this guy? He did not want to be here. The NCAA allowed it, for whatever reason, and its over. No sense in trashing the guy. Now we are trying to diagnose him with some form of ASD?

because he never gave us any closure. I think once people get the real reasons he choose to opt out of his commitment everything will be fine.