'14 FL WR Corey Holmes (Notre Dame Signee)

[dublinirish]

you know all these STA guys are gonna be technically sound. Would be a decent pick up

 

[koonja]

I think GB said he's ours to lose, so if Ironman is correct that he's very, very high on staff's list, this is music to my ears.

 

[NDFAN22]

Is he the best WR who we will likely get? I don't know why, but it seems ND cant get an elite WR

 

[dublinirish]

davonte neal was a 5 star and considered elite!

 

[TomHaverford]

Obviously he is very good, and ND needs Wr's...where would he rank in terms of priority at WR? Im not expert, but his highlight film isnt that great for the most part.

Holmes seems to be rated as a low 4* by Scout, Rivals, and 247, but ESPN seems really high on him.

He doesn't have much of a highlight tape because he didn't play much on a loaded STA team as a sophomore, and then as a junior he only had about 500 yards receiving for 5 TD's.

He seems like a guy with a lot of upside though and he performed very well at some recent combines, even running in the 4.4's in the 40.

 

[PANDFAN]

He is a flexible gumby-type who plays primarily on the inside as a slot in high school, but could be more of an outside threat for the next level. He is shifty and fluid and that makes it difficult to gauge his speed and acceleration, which is deceptively good. He does not appear as fast as his verified times. He is very natural in terms of his change-of-direction skills and body control. He has fluid hips for a taller receiver and is a smooth route runner who doesn't have to gear down a lot when going into and coming out of his breaks. He has good leaping ability and shown the consistent ability to come down with the jump ball. His size creates mismatches versus man-to-man coverage, and he has learned how to use his frame to shield defenders.
Holmes' hands are soft and reliable. He will pluck on the run, catch away from his frame, adjust to the poorly-thrown ball and shows the ability to catch over his shoulder. He is extremely shifty after the catch and shows very good short-area quickness to get into open space. Holmes has a very good feel for locating soft spots in zone coverage and settling into open areas on option routes, seams, bent corner routes, etc. It's tough to gauge his true route tree as he often isn't lined up one-on-one and is usually is working against zone coverage. for a big player, he has some suddenness to create some shake to get separation and can build to top speed and pull away, but not sure he can bolt away from defenders.

this is what espn says about him

 

[Buster Bluth]

you know all these STA guys are gonna be technically sound. Would be a decent pick up

 

[TerryTate]

Is he the best WR who we will likely get? I don't know why, but it seems ND cant get an elite WR

WR/Skill position guys typically hold out until the end of the process. Just a trend over the past few years

 

[NDFAN22]

Yes he was(NEAL) but he is not there anymore...My main point is and many others have said it is why wouldn't a bigtime outside WR want to follow in Floyds footsteps? Hopefully Daniels will continue off of the title game and be the go to guy besides TJ.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Will visit ND for a 4th time per ISD.

 

[irishff1014]

Will visit ND for a 4th time per ISD.

That's gotta be a good sign.

 

[FLDomer]

Sh!t or get off the pot, Corey!!! We want you Irish!!!

 

[IrishLax]

June 20-21. Would be awesome to lock him up with us potentially looking at up to 4 WR. Not game breaking speed, but a really good overall player.

 

[connect the dots]

This is a good fit, for Holmes and Notre Dame. Only better receiver in south Florida would be Dwyer's Johnnie Dixon. At the Opening, Dixon will open talent evaluators eyes, and pass Artavious Scott. However, with Dixon and Scott, Notre Dame is shopping down the wrong aisle.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Holmes the speedster.

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Best of the best: RCS Awards

Honorable mention: WR Monte Harrison, Lee's Summit (Mo.) Lee's Summit West; WR Corey Holmes, Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) St. Thomas Aquinas; WR Rashead Johnson, Long Beach (Calif.) Jordan; WR Chigozie Onyekwere, Washington (D.C.) Friendship Collegiate Academy; WR JoJo Robinson, Miami (Fla.) Northwestern; ATH Mykale Rogers, Lima (Ohio) Lima Central Catholic; WR Curtis Samuel, Brooklyn (N.Y.) Erasmus Hall Campus; WR Jauan Wesley, Harvey (Ill.) Thornton Township; RB Stanley Williams, Bethlehem (Ga.) George Walton Academy

 

[Domina Nostra]

He's this years Fuller: regardless of his times and excellent reviews, some people are going to refuse to believe he is a top-flight prospect.

 

[stlnd01]

He has fluid hips for a taller receiver and is a smooth route runner who doesn't have to gear down a lot when going into and coming out of his breaks. He has good leaping ability and shown the consistent ability to come down with the jump ball. His size creates mismatches versus man-to-man coverage, and he has learned how to use his frame to shield defenders.
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this is what espn says about him

Sounds like they are describing a much larger receiver. He's only 6-1, 172, correct? So maybe he puts on 20 and grows into a slightly taller TJ Jones. Still that's not a big guy.

If the staff likes him, then that's enough for me. He may indeed be a good all-around ballplayer. But he certainly doesn't jump off the page as an elite receiving prospect.

 

[STLDomer]

Get the sense that the staff is going to look to wrap this up and get a commitment from him next weekend.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Get the sense that the staff is going to look to wrap this up and get a commitment from him next weekend.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Current Rankings:

247: #38 WR #NR OVR (90 Rating)
Rivals: #28 WR #224 OVR (5.8 Rating)
ESPN: NR
Scout: #29 WR
247Comp: #28 WR #224 OVR (.9114 Rating)

ESPN loves him:

247: #32 WR #NR OVR (90 Rating)
Rivals: #31 WR #228 OVR (5.8 Rating)
ESPN: #7 WR #75 OVR (84 Rating)
Scout: #33 WR
247Comp: #22 WR #174 OVR (.9254 Rating)

 

[NDWorld247]

Get the sense that the staff is going to look to wrap this up and get a commitment from him next weekend.

I'm sure they will try, but he's given no indication that an early commitment is in his plans, has he? He has a lot of unofficial visits lined up this summer and says he's taking all of his officials before deciding. Idk, I'm not feeling a commitment anytime soon (ala Yeargin). Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Emcee77]

I'm sure they will try, but he's given no indication that an early commitment is in his plans, has he? He has a lot of unofficial visits lined up this summer and says he's taking all of his officials before deciding. Idk, I'm not feeling a commitment anytime soon (ala Yeargin). Hope I'm wrong.

The buzz for a while has been that he might commit to us in June. Unless he has cooled on us recently, a commitment could definitely be in the offing.

 

[koonja]

He doesn't appear very fast to me on his film. But espn does list him as a recorded 4.48, which is really fast considering the best wr on espn is 4.40.

 

[T Town Tommy]

He doesn't appear very fast to me on his film. But espn does list him as a recorded 4.48, which is really fast considering the best wr on espn is 4.40.

Reminds me a little of Amari Cooper at Bama. Not blazing fast but runs great routes and catches the ball when thrown his way.

 

[NDWorld247]

The buzz for a while has been that he might commit to us in June. Unless he has cooled on us recently, a commitment could definitely be in the offing.

Admittedly, I do not have any subscriptions and rely on what's posted on recruit's threads and the free news I read on the internet. Is the buzz anything more than - this his is 4th visit to ND and he loved his last visit so he might commit to us in June? From everything I have read he's visiting a lot of places this summer and has stated he will take all of his official visits before deciding. Obviously you cannot believe everything a recruit says, but is there more to the buzz than what I stated above?

 

[Emcee77]

Admittedly, I do not have any subscriptions and rely on what's posted on recruit's threads and the free news I read on the internet. Is the buzz anything more than - this his is 4th visit to ND and he loved his last visit so he might commit to us in June? From everything I have read he's visiting a lot of places this summer and has stated he will take all of his official visits before deciding. Obviously you cannot believe everything a recruit says, but is there more to the buzz than what I stated above?

Oh no, nothing more concrete than that, although I think you might be understating his ND interest a little. Holmes has a great relationship with Alford, he's taken numerous ND visits, and he's believed to have extremely high ND interest, based not only on his own comments but on the judgments of guys like Wiltfong. That's a pretty typical recipe for a commitment.

Also, as you acknowledge with respect to his comments about taking other visits, you never know how much to read into that when you know a guy has high interest in a school. Recruits often line up other visits and say they are in no rush to decide, but then they take a visit to their favorite school and decide there's no reason to delay committing (like DeShone Kizer did). It certainly doesn't guarantee anything; I was just reacting you your original comment --

I'm sure they will try, but he's given no indication that an early commitment is in his plans, has he? He has a lot of unofficial visits lined up this summer and says he's taking all of his officials before deciding. Idk, I'm not feeling a commitment anytime soon (ala Yeargin). Hope I'm wrong.

-- which struck me as a little credulous and pessimistic. Never forget what I'll call the Golden Rule of Recruiting, coined by recruiting genius GoldenIsThyFame:

"Don't pay attention to what they say; only pay attention to what they do."

 

[NDWorld247]

Oh no, nothing more concrete than that, although I think you might be understating his ND interest a little. Holmes has a great relationship with Alford, he's taken numerous ND visits, and he's believed to have extremely high ND interest, based not only on his own comments but on the judgments of guys like Wiltfong. That's a pretty typical recipe for a commitment.

Also, as you acknowledge with respect to his comments about taking other visits, you never know how much to read into that when you know a guy has high interest in a school. Recruits often line up other visits and say they are in no rush to decide, but then they take a visit to their favorite school and decide there's no reason to delay committing (like DeShone Kizer did). It certainly doesn't guarantee anything; I was just reacting you your original comment --



-- which struck me as a little credulous and pessimistic. Never forget what I'll call the Golden Rule of Recruiting, coined by recruiting genius GoldenIsThyFame:

"Don't pay attention to what they say; only pay attention to what they do."

I don't think I'm underestimating his interest. I picked him to ND in the IE Oracles and still think he will eventually be Irish, I just think sometimes we accelerate the process for these kids because we feel it's an easy decision for them (based on what they've said about the school) and it only makes sense they give their commitment sooner than later.

For example, some people put Yeargin on commitment watch despite the fact he's been pretty consistent in saying he would decide on NSD. I understand actions > words, but sometimes we should pay attention to what these kids are saying. Re: the comparison to Kizer, he was at the end of his process and had one school left to check out but found what he was looking for much closer to home. Everything I've read about Holmes indicates he's at a much different place in the process than Kizer was and won't be committing before taking official visits.

I didn't mean to be pessimistic, I just wanted to understand if we should really be on commitment watch with Holmes this weekend.

 

[IrishLax]

Agree with NDWorld that if Holmes stays true to his plans we shouldn't expect him to commit. But if the pressure gets turned up and he feels comfortable we see guys drop their grand scheme all the time and pull the trigger. So this one will certainly be interesting to follow this weekend... I think it's pretty obvious ND leads and the question is whether or not he adheres to his plan of taking visits. I'd almost rather he wait than pull the trigger and then get the itch to take OVs later.

 

[NDWorld247]

Agree with NDWorld that if Holmes stays true to his plans we shouldn't expect him to commit. But if the pressure gets turned up and he feels comfortable we see guys drop their grand scheme all the time and pull the trigger. So this one will certainly be interesting to follow this weekend... I think it's pretty obvious ND leads and the question is whether or not he adheres to his plan of taking visits. I'd almost rather he wait than pull the trigger and then get the itch to take OVs later.

Exactly. Unless he completely shut it down and went all Elijah Hood on us, I'd want him taking his visits. That's my feeling towards all potential ND recruits.

 

[STLDomer]

Loy put him on commitment watch as his entire family is accompanying on the visit this weekend