Game of Thrones

[phork]

Fuh..... Crazy.

 

[ChiRish]

Just watched it last night - that was insane. Going to be a huge shift now in the dynamic. Does this calm things down now in Westeros, leaving the door open for Khaleesi to make an entrance? I say this not having read any of the books.

I think it's bold and unique to kill off a major "good" character this early in the series, with so much storyline left to go. My gut tells me that the Stark focus will shift to Bran.

My question is, what does this do for House Tully? With Edmure supposedly indisposed, Cat's house and the Stark ally would seem to be up for grabs. Does Edmure go along with the Frey's and Boltons and ally with the Lannisters?

This show is so badass.

 

[mgriff]

Just watched it last night - that was insane. Going to be a huge shift now in the dynamic. Does this calm things down now in Westeros, leaving the door open for Khaleesi to make an entrance? I say this not having read any of the books.

I think it's bold and unique to kill off a major "good" character this early in the series, with so much storyline left to go. My gut tells me that the Stark focus will shift to Bran.

My question is, what does this do for House Tully? With Edmure supposedly indisposed, Cat's house and the Stark ally would seem to be up for grabs. Does Edmure go along with the Frey's and Boltons and ally with the Lannisters?

This show is so badass.

You should get all of your answers next week on the finale. If not you'll get them next season. If you can't wait you can always go and get the books, they are bundled now. Or, if you have a kindle, you can download them with a .mobi file type.

 

[Grahambo]

You should get all of your answers next week on the finale. If not you'll get them next season. If you can't wait you can always go and get the books, they are bundled now. Or, if you have a kindle, you can download them with a .mobi file type.

Or do what I did and go to Wikipedia.

When the show was first announced I was intrigued and Wiki'd what it was as I never heard of it until then.

I still regret not getting the books. Having gone this far with the show and reading what the 'experts' in here say, I assumed there's no point anymore.

 

[Emcee77]

Or do what I did and go to Wikipedia.

When the show was first announced I was intrigued and Wiki'd what it was as I never heard of it until then.

I still regret not getting the books. Having gone this far with the show and reading what the 'experts' in here say, I assumed there's no point anymore.

Oh it's not too late. The books are great and they go really fast. I read all 5 in about 6 weeks while studying for the bar exam (I needed a good non-alcoholic study break activity).

 

[Grahambo]

Oh it's not too late. The books are great and they go really fast. I read all 5 in about 6 weeks while studying for the bar exam (I needed a good non-alcoholic study break activity).

Yeah? I thought I saw in this thread or the other GoT thread that it wasn't worth it since we made it this far in the series.

I shall look into it.

 

[IrishinTN]

Yeah? I thought I saw in this thread or the other GoT thread that it wasn't worth it since we made it this far in the series.

I shall look into it.

They are easy, addictive reads (if I forgot my book when going to work I drove the bookstore and used a copy just to get some reading in at lunch) and you will understand far more of the emotions behind these characters actions. Plus there are parts of the series that are getting a bit far from the books (out of necessity, I'd imagine).

One thing on the insight is people like The Hound. I hated him early, but find myself liking him a lot now. The reason for that is the history on him and understanding how he got to be the way he is and how he changed. For instance, the series didn't show it last episode (and I thought it would have been easy to do so) but the Hound actually killed some Frey knights who had caught Arya. He didn't have to do that. If he really just wanted her for the money, he could have left her die.

 

[mgriff]

Yeah? I thought I saw in this thread or the other GoT thread that it wasn't worth it since we made it this far in the series.

I shall look into it.

Amazon.com: a song of ice and fire

Read them. You have to do a second read through anyway, at least, so you can try to piece together what the hell is going on. If you've already googled everything then this as your first read through will still be exciting, and you might piece some new stuff together.

 

[Grahambo]

Amazon.com: a song of ice and fire

Read them. You have to do a second read through anyway, at least, so you can try to piece together what the hell is going on. If you've already googled everything then this as your first read through will still be exciting, and you might piece some new stuff together.

Consider it done. Good price btw. lol

 

[Emcee77]

Yeah? I thought I saw in this thread or the other GoT thread that it wasn't worth it since we made it this far in the series.

I shall look into it.

You might be thinking of my comment that you should not pick up the fourth book and expect to understand what's going on based just on the first three seasons of the show. I stand by that.

But I would not say that, having watched the first three seasons of the show, you wouldn't find the books interesting if you started reading them from the beginning. I read the first book AFTER watching the first season of the show, and even though I basically knew what happened I still loved it. The books go way deeper into the characters' thoughts and their history.

 

[Grahambo]

You might be thinking of my comment that you should not pick up the fourth book and expect to understand what's going on based just on the first three seasons of the show. I stand by that.

But I would not say that, having watched the first three seasons of the show, you wouldn't find the books interesting if you started reading them from the beginning. I read the first book AFTER watching the first season of the show, and even though I basically knew what happened I still loved it. The books go way deeper into the characters' thoughts and their history.

Yeah. Good points. I have been convinced to get the books still.

 

[NDWorld247]

Or do what I did and go to Wikipedia.

I did the same thing last year and totally forgot about the Red Wedding by the time it happened. I read Wikipedia again Sunday night and it inspired me to read the books.

 

[Zwidmanio]

Amazon.com: a song of ice and fire

Read them. You have to do a second read through anyway, at least, so you can try to piece together what the hell is going on. If you've already googled everything then this as your first read through will still be exciting, and you might piece some new stuff together.

It's been way too much of a pain to try and get the books through my library...so thanks for the link! I should have it by Thursday.

 

[IrishinTN]

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A little long but some funny ones. Were any of these you guys or gals?

 

[IrishLion]

I like the older gentleman around 2:20.

"Oh no. Oooooooh ****."

 

[ACamp1900]

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A little long but some funny ones. Were any of these you guys or gals?

Two things I got from that...

1.) Most of this (all) has to be faked... why would you tape yourself watching a show???
2.) A lot of GoT fans can't decorate for ****... lol

 

[IrishLion]

Two things I got from that...

1.) Most of this (all) has to be faked... why would you tape yourself watching a show???
2.) A lot of GoT fans can't decorate for ****... lol

I assume some of these are "viewing parties" where some of the attendees have read the books, so they had the camera on. I thought they all seemed pretty genuine.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

1.) Most of this (all) has to be faked... why would you tape yourself watching a show???

I suspect most of these videos were recorded by readers who are watching the series with non-readers. They knew S3E9 would be a gut punch, and decided to record the reaction.

2.) A lot of GoT fans can't decorate for ****... lol

Renly? Is that you?

 

[Grahambo]

I suspect most of these videos were recorded by readers who are watching the series with non-readers. They knew episode would be a gut punch, and decided to record the reaction.



Renly? Is that you?

Recycled but still applies:

 

[IrishinTN]

I suspect most of these videos were recorded by readers who are watching the series with non-readers. They knew episode would be a gut punch, and decided to record the reaction.

This. If you watch any of the individual videos it even says as much...readers watching with non-readers. I would have loved to be there for my one friends reaction.

 

[NDWorld247]

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A little long but some funny ones. Were any of these you guys or gals?

I saw this yesterday

I loved the difference between the way the girls reacted vs. the guys. Shamefully, I reacted more like the chicks, in the manliest way possible of course.

 

[ACamp1900]

This. If you watch any of the individual videos it even says as much...readers watching with non-readers. I would have loved to be there for my one friends reaction.

gotcha, I flipped around on the video so i must have missed that... wouldn't someone who you know knows the story taping you watching it give a bit away???...

And Renly was awesome... so was Cortnay Penrose (One frekin chapter I know)... easily two fo the better non-POV characters that stuck with me despite their brief time in the series... on the show? Eh.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

GRRM wrote an article, titled "Oh ****! I Totally Forgot that Happens!" on S3E9 for the Onion:

And even though it’s my responsibility as an author to protect the integrity of my novels at all costs, I have to admit that I personally wouldn’t have noticed if they’d completely changed the story at that point and the episode had ended happily. Hell, those books were written a long time ago; you can’t expect me to remember every last detail. Sure, I’m an executive producer on the show and they send me all the scripts on these things, but I never read them. Those things are full of spoilers.

At any rate, holy ****! I almost don’t want to see what I do next week. All I know is Tyrion better not get killed, because if he dies I’m done with this show, man. Done.

 

[phork]

Chart? Chart. (PS: Do not click if you do not want to be spoiled, somewhat)

 

[In Lou I Trust]

Interesting read.

The real-life events that inspired Game of Thrones' Red Wedding
It all started with two very dark events in Scottish history

As shocking as Sunday's Starkicide was, what's even more shocking is that events like these actually happened. Author George R.R. Martin has said that the inspiration for the betrayal is based on two dark events in Scottish history: the Black Dinner of 1440 and the Massacre of Glencoe from 1692. "No matter how much I make up, there's stuff in history that's just as bad, or worse," Martin has said. And he's absolutely right. See for yourself.

THE MASSACRE OF GLENCOE
In 1691, all Scottish clans were called upon to renounce the deposed King of Scotland, James VII, and swear allegiance to King William of Orange (of William and Mary fame). The chief of each clan had until January 1, 1692, to provide a signed document swearing an oath to William. The Highland Clan MacDonald had two things working against them here. First of all, the Secretary of State, John Dalrymple, was a Lowlander who loathed Clan MacDonald. Secondly, Clan MacDonald had already sworn an oath to James VII and had to wait on him to send word that they were free to break that oath.

Unfortunately, it was December 28 before a messenger arrived with this all-important letter from the former king. That gave Maclain, the chief of the MacDonald clan, just three days to get the newly-signed oath to the Secretary of State.

Maclain was detained for days when he went through Inveraray, the town of the rival Clan Campbell, but still managed to deliver the oath, albeit several days late. The Secretary of State's legal team wasn't interested in late documents. They rejected the MacDonalds' sworn allegiance to William, and set plans in place to cut the clan down, "root and branch."

In late January or early February, 120 men under the command of Captain Robert Campbell arrived at the MacDonalds' in Glencoe, claiming to need shelter because a nearby fort was full. The MacDonalds offered their hospitality, as was custom, and the soldiers stayed there for nearly two weeks before Captain Drummond arrived with instructions to "put all to the sword under seventy."

After playing cards with their victims and wishing them goodnight, the soldiers waited until the MacDonalds were asleep, then murdered as many men as they could manage &#151; 38 in all, some still in their beds. At least 40 women and children escaped, but fleeing into a blizzard blowing outside as their houses burned down meant that they all died of exposure.

The massacre was considered especially awful because it was "Slaughter Under Trust" &#151; sound familiar, Game of Thrones fans? To this day, the door at Clachaig Inn in Glen Coe has a sign on the door denying entry to Campbells.

THE BLACK DINNER
In November of 1440, the newly-appointed 6th Earl of Douglas, who was just 16, and his little brother David, were invited to join the 10-year-old King of England Scotland, James II, for dinner at Edinburgh Castle. But it wasn't the young King who had invited the Douglas brothers. The invitation had been issued by Sir William Crichton, Chancellor of Scotland, who feared that the Black Douglas (there was another clan called the Red Douglas) were growing too powerful.

As legend has it, the children were all getting along marvelously, enjoying food, entertainment and talking until the end of the dinner, when the head of a black bull was dropped on the table, symbolizing the death of the Black Douglas. The two young Douglases were dragged outside, given a mock trial, found guilty of high treason, and beheaded. It's said that the Earl pleaded for his brother to be killed first so that the younger boy wouldn't have to witness his older brother's beheading.

Sir Walter Scott wrote this of the horrific event:

"Edinburgh Castle, toune and towre,
God grant thou sink for sin!
And that e'en for the black dinner
Earl Douglas gat therein."

 

[Whiskeyjack]

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[mgriff]

The dragons talk. Which means that Sean Connery will be in Game of Thrones...

 

[Andy in Sactown]

The dragons talk. Which means that Sean Connery will be in Game of Thrones...

"The game is afoot".

*Captain Ramius voice required. Not an Shakespearian accent.

 

[ACamp1900]

THE MASSACRE OF GLENCOE

Don't mess with the Campbell's yo!!!!

Although I never felt so bad about that events from my family's history as i do now... knowing that it inspired Rob's death... damnit.

 

[mgriff]

THE MASSACRE OF GLENCOE

Don't mess with the Campbell's yo!!!!

Although I never felt so bad about that events from my family's history as i do now... knowing that it inspired Rob's death... damnit.

Congrats, the only thing worse than the Red Wedding, one of the most dramatic moments in TV history, is the reality of your ancestors' actions, violating guest rights and butchering a couple of kids.