'14 IL OT Jamarco Jones (Ohio State Verbal)

[arrowryan]

^^^
Check out the 11w thread on ND's possible stadium changes. You'll have to read thru a bunch of it to get to the really good stuff, but it's lol worthy.

What is 11w? Do you have a link?

 

[clashmore_mike]

I'm on my phone. Google eleven warriors, then go to the football forum. It'll be one of the top three or so threads listed.

 

[Irishnuke]

I'm on my phone. Google eleven warriors, then go to the football forum. It'll be one of the top three or so threads listed.

That thread is a f'ing mess.

 

[ThePiombino]

What is 11w? Do you have a link?

http://www.elevenwarriors.com

 

[IrishLion]

Man, I was expecting a lot worse. Honestly, on an OSU board, written by an OSU fan, that really isn't that bad. I've seen WAY more homerism on their boards, and on here too (don't even get me started on the Denard Robinson thread lol).

At least he admits we have a great O-line coach, and while I disagree that they have a great O-line coach, I do think Warriner is pretty good, just not great and nowhere near the recruiter that we have in Heistand.

If I'm an OSU fan, my anger is directed at Warriner's recruiting, not at player's looking for an easy entry into playing time.

When he was here, I thought Warriner was the greatest thing since sliced bread... then Heistand came in, kept the o-line play at a good level, and has absolutely destroyed it in recruiting. No contest at the moment.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

When he was here, I thought Warriner was the greatest thing since sliced bread... then Heistand came in, kept the o-line play at a good level, and has absolutely destroyed it in recruiting. No contest at the moment.

Agree 100%

 

[Buster Bluth]

I'm on my phone. Google eleven warriors, then go to the football forum. It'll be one of the top three or so threads listed.

Tommy Rees beat Michigan with his legs. Let that sink in for a second.

You brilliant, brilliant man.

 

[Buster Bluth]

What is 11w? Do you have a link?

11W is where the biggest douches in the Ohio State crowd get together, lube up, and have at it. It's more than a message board, they have daily(ish) articles written with by a slew of dudes you just read one paragraph of and want to punch through the computer. It's just the worst.

It'd be like if the mods here suddenly dropped dead, and all of the great levelheaded posters went with them...and just left us to circlejerk ourselves into Irish nirvana land. Only it's Ohio State and it's 11W.

 

[clashmore_mike]

You brilliant, brilliant man.

hahaha, I mean if a Michigan fan is going to talk **** about ND on an OSU board, it's only right he gets checked, right?

 

[Riddickulous]

That thread is a f'ing mess.

The entire site is a ****ing mess.

If there was a way to somehow have Eleven Warriors and MGoBlog manifest themselves as people and kill each other off, I'd be all for it. Hell, I'd pay to see it.

 

[TerryTate]

Been reading this thread on elevenwarriors and Chubler is reppin' it

 

[IrishLax]

The entire site is a ****ing mess.

If there was a way to somehow have Eleven Warriors and MGoBlog manifest themselves as people and kill each other off, I'd be all for it. Hell, I'd pay to see it.

Hunger games?

 

[ulukinatme]

11W is where the biggest douches in the Ohio State crowd get together, lube up, and have at it. It's more than a message board, they have daily(ish) articles written with by a slew of dudes you just read one paragraph of and want to punch through the computer. It's just the worst.

It'd be like if the mods here suddenly dropped dead, and all of the great levelheaded posters went with them...and just left us to circlejerk ourselves into Irish nirvana land. Only it's Ohio State and it's 11W.

Do you spend time over on 11W, Buster? I've never been there, but I've been on Buckeye Planet. Have you been on BP, and how does it compare?
I've spent a lot of time on Buckeye Planet since some of their mods invited a bunch of us from a now defunct Irish board for the '06 Fiesta Bowl. Growing up in Ohio I too have an affinity for the Buckeyes, but Irish always came first. BP was a pretty nice site for several years, cool to get other perspectives and general information, but the last 3-4 years it's definitely been much less level headed and rather anti-Irish. It comes mostly from several to a dozen posters, but a lot of them are the more vocal ones. Leaves me a little conflicted with Buckeye fans being an Ohio State fan myself and an Irish fan (even worse now that I'm married into a Buckeye family as well ).
Anyway, long story short, I still like Buckeye Planet to an extent, but it's not quite as habitable as it once was. Sometimes you can't get into an ND discussion without someone throwing out a scissor lift "joke" and trying to prod you into getting yourself banned. Hasn't happened yet, but mostly because I'm not stupid enough to take the bait.

 

[ant80]

Do you spend time over on 11W, Buster? I've never been there, but I've been on Buckeye Planet. Have you been on BP, and how does it compare?
I've spent a lot of time on Buckeye Planet since some of their mods invited a bunch of us from a now defunct Irish board for the '06 Fiesta Bowl. Growing up in Ohio I too have an affinity for the Buckeyes, but Irish always came first. BP was a pretty nice site for several years, cool to get other perspectives and general information, but the last 3-4 years it's definitely been much less level headed and rather anti-Irish. It comes mostly from several to a dozen posters, but a lot of them are the more vocal ones. Leaves me a little conflicted with Buckeye fans being an Ohio State fan myself and an Irish fan (even worse now that I'm married into a Buckeye family as well ).
Anyway, long story short, I still like Buckeye Planet to an extent, but it's not quite as habitable as it once was. Sometimes you can't get into an ND discussion without someone throwing out a scissor lift "joke" and trying to prod you into getting yourself banned. Hasn't happened yet, but mostly because I'm not stupid enough to take the bait.

Well, ND has been relevant in the national scene, both in terms of ranking as well as recruiting, in the last 3-4 years. Before that, Ty Willingham was... well, Ty Willingham. Weis was a joke. Sure, it's a correlation, but I think that explains the animosity you've encountered there.

PS: You didn't imagine I'd be replying to this post now, did you?

 

[ulukinatme]

Well, ND has been relevant in the national scene, both in terms of ranking as well as recruiting, in the last 3-4 years. Before that, Ty Willingham was... well, Ty Willingham. Weis was a joke. Sure, it's a correlation, but I think that explains the animosity you've encountered there.

PS: You didn't imagine I'd be replying to this post now, did you?

I know you're always around here, I figured you'd get around to it eventually It is what it is though from an ND fan perspective. I'm still a Buckeye fan and native of Ohio despite growing up Irish first. I still think BP is a great site, and I still like going there, just has been less welcoming and more hostile in recent years probably due to the reasons you outlined above. The hard part for me is getting over the fact that some Buckeyes have admitted to hating the Irish more than the Wolverines, which boggles my mind given the fact the two rarely ever play. I've always lived by the credo "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" which is convenient when talking about Michigan

 

[Buster Bluth]

Do you spend time over on 11W, Buster? I've never been there, but I've been on Buckeye Planet. Have you been on BP, and how does it compare?
I've spent a lot of time on Buckeye Planet since some of their mods invited a bunch of us from a now defunct Irish board for the '06 Fiesta Bowl. Growing up in Ohio I too have an affinity for the Buckeyes, but Irish always came first. BP was a pretty nice site for several years, cool to get other perspectives and general information, but the last 3-4 years it's definitely been much less level headed and rather anti-Irish. It comes mostly from several to a dozen posters, but a lot of them are the more vocal ones. Leaves me a little conflicted with Buckeye fans being an Ohio State fan myself and an Irish fan (even worse now that I'm married into a Buckeye family as well ).
Anyway, long story short, I still like Buckeye Planet to an extent, but it's not quite as habitable as it once was. Sometimes you can't get into an ND discussion without someone throwing out a scissor lift "joke" and trying to prod you into getting yourself banned. Hasn't happened yet, but mostly because I'm not stupid enough to take the bait.

I got banned from 11W when they went on a tirade one day bring up the accused rape and I mentioned facts from the case that didn't paint Notre Dame as Rapefest 2011. I'll put it that way.

I've never been to BP. I was a big fan of jjhuddle.com (formerly Ohio's far and away best discussion on high school sports) before it hit the fan and everyone jumped ship to this freehuddle.com/ohiochatter.com site that popped up, but even there the Ohio State fans just unleashed a relentless barrage of Notre Dame hate, totally unwarranted. I haven't posted there in forever. I'm good here.

I mostly just can't understand why people on those sites never talk real football. It's just a circlejerk. That's what I love about this place, there is actual substance to it every single day. Some of it is written in some weird Gaelic pictographs by Bogs, but it's here.

 

[ulukinatme]

I got banned from 11W when they went on a tired one day bring up the accused rape and I mentioned facts from the case that didn't paint Notre Dame as Rapefest 2011. I'll put it that way.

I've never been to BP. I was a big fan of jjhuddle.com (formerly Ohio's far and away best discussion on high school sports) before it hit the fan and everyone jumped ship to this freehuddle.com/ohiochatter.com site that popped up, but even there the Ohio State fans just unleashed a relentless barrage of Notre Dame hate, totally unwarranted. I haven't posted there in forever. I'm good here.

I mostly just can't understand why people on those sites never talk real football. It's just a circlejerk. That's what I love about this place, there is actual substance to it every single day. Some of it is written in some weird Gaelic pictographs by Bogs, but it's here.

BP isn't that bad I think. I've gotten into a few debates like that, but like you I think it was level headed and fact driven, and it just added to the discussion (no crazy bans).
Theres actually a lot of good football talk and general topics there, less circle jerk than a lot of sites I've seen which is why I've hung around BP. As mentioned you do have a few posters that will try to incur your ire. I've seen some will go back as far as Kim Dunbar to try and make a point, which is just silly all together. I want to say something about glass houses because to an extent at some point everyone has egg on their face, but I just smile and continue driving. Besides the bad eggs theres some welcoming posters and they'll discuss B1G and everything outside it.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

When he was here, I thought Warriner was the greatest thing since sliced bread... then Heistand came in, kept the o-line play at a good level, and has absolutely destroyed it in recruiting. No contest at the moment.

When Heistand came in Kelly, Martin, and Heistand changed the blocking scheme. So what you note as a continued high level of offensive line play, was in the midst of a major change, where most of the time you would expect a dropoff!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Well, ND has been relevant in the national scene, both in terms of ranking as well as recruiting, in the last 3-4 years. Before that, Ty Willingham was... well, Ty Willingham. Weis was a joke. Sure, it's a correlation, but I think that explains the animosity you've encountered there.

PS: You didn't imagine I'd be replying to this post now, did you?

Either that or in coresponds to a fall off in Buckeye play, (cheating coach and players, transition, and hiring a coach that may or may not be past his prime, but either way will run the Buckeyes name through the dirt.)

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I got banned from 11W when they went on a tired one day bring up the accused rape and I mentioned facts from the case that didn't paint Notre Dame as Rapefest 2011. I'll put it that way.

I've never been to BP. I was a big fan of jjhuddle.com (formerly Ohio's far and away best discussion on high school sports) before it hit the fan and everyone jumped ship to this freehuddle.com/ohiochatter.com site that popped up, but even there the Ohio State fans just unleashed a relentless barrage of Notre Dame hate, totally unwarranted. I haven't posted there in forever. I'm good here.

I mostly just can't understand why people on those sites never talk real football. It's just a circlejerk. That's what I love about this place, there is actual substance to it every single day. Some of it is written in some weird Gaelic pictographs by Bogs, but it's here.

Is breá liom tú ró-, Béarlagair!

 

[IrishLion]

When Heistand came in Kelly, Martin, and Heistand changed the blocking scheme. So what you note as a continued high level of offensive line play, was in the midst of a major change, where most of the time you would expect a dropoff!

Thanks Bogs, didn't think of things in that way either. Should make fans all the more appreciative. I was familiar with a change in blocking scheme, but never really thought of the difficulties it might have created (because they never manifested themselves, hence good line play).

Scary to think that the quality of linemen being recruited/signed continues to improve on top of what is already a succesful group of young men (Martin, Watt, etc.) sticking around to hold things down till the youngsters have their shot. Another year or two and we should see Heistand molding Elmer, Bivin, Montelus, McGlinchey, McGovern, Nelson, Mustipher, and Byrne (among others still to be named: Smith? Jones? etc.) into a formidable wall of blockers with high NFL aspirations.

 

[ulukinatme]

Got to wonder now if the Bars commit today is going to push Jones towards the Buckeyes or maybe Michigan. I don't see him going to Michigan, but with 4 OL now for '14 and 5 guys last year it's going to be a little tight for us.

 

[greyhammer90]

Got to wonder now if the Bars commit today is going to push Jones towards the Buckeyes or maybe Michigan. I don't see him going to Michigan, but with 4 OL now for '14 and 5 guys last year it's going to be a little tight for us.

I never thought we had a realistic shot with Jones, I thought we were just a hat on his table?

 

[ulukinatme]

I never thought we had a realistic shot with Jones, I thought we were just a hat on his table?

Well, we were in the running I think, but yeah I don't think he was leaning this way. I just figured the Bars commit might put a cork in it.

 

[connect the dots]

Got to wonder now if the Bars commit today is going to push Jones towards the Buckeyes or maybe Michigan. I don't see him going to Michigan, but with 4 OL now for '14 and 5 guys last year it's going to be a little tight for us.

Ain't no wonder about it, Notre Dame got their man in Alex Bars. Dog and pony high school football analysts may see, with his size, some upside in Jamarco Jones, but I don't. Like his high school football competition, Jamarco Jones is a big Mister Softie!

 

[ulukinatme]

Ain't no wonder about it, Notre Dame got their man in Alex Bars. Dog and pony high school football analysts may see, with his size, some upside in Jamarco Jones, but I don't. Like his high school football competition, Jamarco Jones is a big Mister Softie!

Hey, the guy still has an offer from us, so they obviously see something in him.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Staff would still take him if he wanted in per Wiltfong. And yes Braden Smith even if we sign 15 OL.

 

[Emcee77]

Ain't no wonder about it, Notre Dame got their man in Alex Bars. Dog and pony high school football analysts may see, with his size, some upside in Jamarco Jones, but I don't. Like his high school football competition, Jamarco Jones is a big Mister Softie!

If the staff would still take him even with four OL on board then they must like him, but It was rumored that the staff actually preferred Bars to Jones, rankings notwithstanding.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Staff would still take him if he wanted in per Wiltfong. And yes Braden Smith even if we sign 15 OL.

Wow. That's a little surprising. I figured we would pass on Jones at this point. I would certainly never be upset at taking another lineman

 

[Irishman77]

5-6 is fine would love to have them both!