'13 FL RB Greg Bryant (R.I.P.)

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Can I ask why no one is mentioning Mahone. Is it because of the spring game? The offense was inept to say the least overall. Is there some other footage I am not privy to that would make someone doubt him over younger non early enrollees? Serious question.

Mahone has a LONG way to go, but is still young so there is plenty of hope there (was in his first spring practice this year) per Alford.
 

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Dairus Walker didn't play in his first game against BYU... he came back in his second game and LIT UP Michigan in a win...

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just sayin'

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Dairus Walker didn't play in his first game against BYU... he came back in his second game and LIT UP Michigan in a win...

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just sayin'

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Darius Walker's competition to see the field that year was also Ryan Grant, Marcus Wilson, and Rashon Powers-Neal.

Some what different than what Bryant will be competing with come this fall.

With that said....

I am extremely excited to see what he can do though, he seems primed and ready for college already. It is a good feeling to be over loaded with talent at the RB position.
 
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Darius Walker's competition to see the field that year was also Ryan Grant, Marcus Wilson, and Rashon Powers-Neal.

Some what different than what Bryant will be competing with come this fall.

With that said....

I am extremely excited to see what he can do though, he seems primed and ready for college already. It is a good feeling to be over loaded with talent at the RB position.

Honestly, I'd take Ryan Grant and Neal over GAIII and Cam.

Rashon and Grant both had NFL careers. I don't think GAIII or Cam will.
 
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Honestly, I'd take Ryan Grant and Neal over GAIII and Cam.

It would be a close one, but if we go back to that year when Walker had the breakout game/year. Ryan Grant was a senior, that for one reason or another got passed by a Freshman and Powers-Neal was a Redshirt Freshman who was converted from LB.

Where as Bryant will be competing with GAIII and Cam which are both Juniors with real game experience. Then also throw in Amir, Mahone, and Folston. A lot of talent and potential back there.

When Riddick and Wood were freshmen, most would have thought Wood would be the first to see action in stead it was the other way around. Anything can happen once the pads are put on and the competition heats up.

EDIT: P.S. I was also a huge RPN fan, I still believe to this day if he was active in the 2005 USC game, ND would have won.
 
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Darius Walker's competition to see the field that year was also Ryan Grant, Marcus Wilson, and Rashon Powers-Neal.

Some what different than what Bryant will be competing with come this fall.

With that said....

I am extremely excited to see what he can do though, he seems primed and ready for college already. It is a good feeling to be over loaded with talent at the RB position.

So missed the point...

MOAR LIGHTIN UP OF MICHIGAN BY FRESHMAN!!!!!!
 

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Darius Walker...man he had of stayed for his senior year its unreal how good he could have been. Dosen't he coach HS ball in SB now?
 

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Darius Walker...man he had of stayed for his senior year its unreal how good he could have been. Dosen't he coach HS ball in SB now?

...loved walker as much as the next guy...but I think his senior year was to be '07, the year of the lookout block...I think he made a wise choice...

GB is a physical specimen...however, I never put a lot of stock in that because the speed of the game usually renders these guys a little paralyzed until mid season their first year...Once in awhile you get a kid who adapts quickly if the O-line is good...we'll see.
 

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GB is a physical specimen...however, I never put a lot of stock in that because the speed of the game usually renders these guys a little paralyzed until mid season their first year...Once in awhile you get a kid who adapts quickly if the O-line is good...we'll see.

When you say "these guys" do you mean 5-star freshman RBs or all freshman or all RBs? IMO, some positions are easier than others, and some kids have a lot more talent than others.

While I would not say "never," I would "rarely." If Theo or Cierre was here, I would tend to doubt he played much. But none of Cam, Malone, and GAIII seem like elite BCS backs at this point. But personally, I think the combination of a (1) good offensive line, (2) a mobile QB, (3) unproven talent in front of him, and (4) a college-ready body (some kids don't look like that as Sophmores or Juniors) is a good recipe for significant early playing time.

Here is to hoping we landed someone like Lattimore, Yeldon, or Dyer: 5-star southern talent that can play immeidately
 
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It would be a close one, but if we go back to that year when Walker had the breakout game/year. Ryan Grant was a senior, that for one reason or another got passed by a Freshman and Powers-Neal was a Redshirt Freshman who was converted from LB.

Where as Bryant will be competing with GAIII and Cam which are both Juniors with real game experience. Then also throw in Amir, Mahone, and Folston. A lot of talent and potential back there.

When Riddick and Wood were freshmen, most would have thought Wood would be the first to see action in stead it was the other way around. Anything can happen once the pads are put on and the competition heats up.

EDIT: P.S. I was also a huge RPN fan, I still believe to this day if he was active in the 2005 USC game, ND would have won.

I believe Ryan Grant was out the first couple of games with a groin injury and was hampered by that injury all year. I also believe the starting RB for the 1st game of the season that year, against BYU, was Travis Thomas I think.
 

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When you say "these guys" do you mean 5-star freshman RBs or all freshman or all RBs? IMO, some positions are easier than others, and some kids have a lot more talent than others.

While I would not say "never," I would "rarely." If Theo or Cierre was here, I would tend to doubt he played much. But none of Cam, Malone, and GAIII seem like elite BCS backs at this point. But personally, I think the combination of a (1) good offensive line, (2) a mobile QB, (3) unproven talent in front of him, and (4) a college-ready body (some kids don't look like that as Sophmores or Juniors) is a good recipe for significant early playing time.

Here is to hoping we landed someone like Lattimore, Yeldon, or Dyer: 5-star southern talent that can play immeidately

That's a reasonable adjustment from never to rarely...

Almost all Freshman RBs, even 5 stars struggle to be fully functional, and fully capable...by that I mean they limit the offense based on their learning curve, and while they may have elite physical tools, the mental part of the game usually causes them to be less effective... The elusiveness, vision, and execution you saw in Cierre and Theo over the last couple years, especially at the second level is not common for a freshman. Not going to say GB won't make an impact...going to say odds are way against him being your "guy" regardless of his physical gifts.

...BK seems pretty adept at creating an environment for success when he is forced to use young guys...but seeing the guys he has, and his comfort with veterans, I think he'll not need to use GB, nor be all that inclined to force it.

I am not ready to say we don't have a BCS level RB. Our D-line may well be the best in the country, so looking at the spring and deciding we don't have BCS caliber backs seems premature.

So...I'll go out on a limb and just go ahead and name one...we got time to argue it ...:).

Carlisle seems a complete back. He may not make an entire season, but he has break away speed and elusiveness in tight spaces...He'll have a very good O-line, and other players on the field which will force defenses to be honest. His story will depend on health and how they use him. It seems to me if you line him up at slot, with cam or GAIII at tail...that's a tall order for a defense...so while his production may not be "BCS" leading man production, his presence in that spot forces more mismatches and more options for EG...If Carlisle is the primary tail, he'll be very productive if healthy, and he'll be 1K+ rusher. I think Carlisle is an elite BCS caliber back right now (ok in another 6 weeks or so ...:) )
 

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That's a reasonable adjustment from never to rarely...

Almost all Freshman RBs, even 5 stars struggle to be fully functional, and fully capable...by that I mean they limit the offense based on their learning curve, and while they may have elite physical tools, the mental part of the game usually causes them to be less effective... The elusiveness, vision, and execution you saw in Cierre and Theo over the last couple years, especially at the second level is not common for a freshman. Not going to say GB won't make an impact...going to say odds are way against him being your "guy" regardless of his physical gifts.

...BK seems pretty adept at creating an environment for success when he is forced to use young guys...but seeing the guys he has, and his comfort with veterans, I think he'll not need to use GB, nor be all that inclined to force it.

I am not ready to say we don't have a BCS level RB. Our D-line may well be the best in the country, so looking at the spring and deciding we don't have BCS caliber backs seems premature.

So...I'll go out on a limb and just go ahead and name one...we got time to argue it ...:).

Carlisle seems a complete back. He may not make an entire season, but he has break away speed and elusiveness in tight spaces...He'll have a very good O-line, and other players on the field which will force defenses to be honest. His story will depend on health and how they use him. It seems to me if you line him up at slot, with cam or GAIII at tail...that's a tall order for a defense...so while his production may not be "BCS" leading man production, his presence in that spot forces more mismatches and more options for EG...If Carlisle is the primary tail, he'll be very productive if healthy, and he'll be 1K+ rusher. I think Carlisle is an elite BCS caliber back right now (ok in another 6 weeks or so ...:) )

If Carlisle can stay healthy, I agree he is #1. No argument here.
 
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This guy has a great attitude, his stars and success doesn't seem to get to him (at least according to his tweets). Seems like a humble guy, and those are the ones that usually excel. He's going to be a beast.
 
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Kelly has said repeatedly he is trying to copy the SEC model of football for success. I look at what Alabama has done with RBs in the recent past as an example of what I see us doing. We are not quite there yet, but with Mahone, Bryant, Hood coupled with our OL haul this is real damn close:

Mark Ingrahm
Freshman -2nd Team All-American, Backed up Coffee.
Sophmore - Heisman, backed up by freshman Trent Richardson
Junior - Splits time with Richardson, leaves for NFL

Trent Richardson
Freshman - backed up Ingram
Sophmore - split time with junior Ingram, with Lacy 3rd.
Junior - split time with Lacy, left for NFL

Eddie Lacy
Freshman - 3rd behind Ingram and Richardson
Sophmore - backed up Richardson
Junior - Split time with Freshman Yeldon

T.J. Yeldon
Freshman - backed up Lacy
Sophmore - Starter with incoming backup Freshman
 
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Kelly has said repeatedly he is trying to copy the SEC model of football for success. I look at what Alabama has done with RBs in the recent past as an example of what I see us doing. We are not quite there yet, but with Mahone, Bryant, Hood coupled with our OL haul this is real damn close:

Mark Ingrahm
Freshman -2nd Team All-American, Backed up Coffee.
Sophmore - Heisman, backed up by freshman Trent Richardson
Junior - Splits time with Richardson, leaves for NFL

Trent Richardson
Freshman - backed up Ingram
Sophmore - split time with junior Trent Richardson, with Lacy 3rd.
Junior - split time with Richardson, left for NFL

Eddie Lacy
Freshman - 3rd behind Ingram and Richardson
Sophmore - backed up Richardson
Junior - Split time with Freshman Yeldon

T.J. Yeldon
Freshman - backed up Lacy
Sophmore - Starter with incoming backup Freshman



That's pretty badass that he can backup himself...must have been really good.

I'm sure you meant Ingram and Lacy.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Im down to over come adversity anyday....!</p>— Greg Bryant #⃣6⃣ (@GB6for6) <a href="https://twitter.com/GB6for6/status/338524666908008449">May 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Solid 200 pounds! <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TheGrind">#TheGrind</a> &#55357;&#56490; <a href="http://t.co/VCWNiN4v7A" title="http://twitter.com/GB6for6/status/339758957369372673/photo/1">twitter.com/GB6for6/status…</a></p>— Greg Bryant #⃣6⃣ (@GB6for6) <a href="https://twitter.com/GB6for6/status/339758957369372673">May 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If Bryant can pass block, I see no reason that he can't get some meaningful carries early even {and this is coming from a Cam McDaniel fan}.

I could imagine Amir continuing his bad health, and GAIII continuing his patchy inability to evolve into a true all-purpose back. Then the carries would fall to McDaniel [who is the only known quantity who can perform the whole list of Kelly-offense tasks], plus Mahone [who MIGHT get them figured out by Fall], and the two uber-talented rookies.

When I contemplate all of that, the RB situation actually seems very promising. The issue in my mind {entirely outside the Tommy/ Andrew/ Malik situation} is will the OLine consistently runblock? In other words, my view of the adequacy of the 2013 offense [without Everett] is OLine blocking for runs. Even a stud like Greg will not produce a lot unless the rightside horses [and Niklas] are earthmoving the opponents. If they are, then Bryant seems the ideal "hit-it-fast, rip and roll" back we want.

Fast, quick, decisive, 200 pounds ... sounds awfully good to me.
 

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Forgive me if I forgot something, but isn't Cameron Roberson still eligible... he is supposed to be healthy now as well correct?

Is there any options that could in any way shape or form involve him as well?
 

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Forgive me if I forgot something, but isn't Cameron Roberson still eligible... he is supposed to be healthy now as well correct?

Is there any options that could in any way shape or form involve him as well?

He's on medical hardship now I believe.
 
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