Emcee77
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Isn't great?? In one fell swoop he goes from being a character I just want to see killed off to one of the most interesting characters.
Isn't great?? In one fell swoop he goes from being a character I just want to see killed off to one of the most interesting characters.
ACamp1900
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It's easier to follow in the books though... I watched the first few episodes before picking up the books... So much was lost, misunderstood or flat out not there in the show. It really struck me. Understandable as it must be very difficult to get THAT MUCH on screen... but there it is.
returnofthemack
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Could somebody please pm me what's going on with Theon's helper? I read the books a while ago but I definitely don't remember this.
im with you on this...who is that guy??
NDinMich
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I think this is just made for TV stuff because I read book 3 a month or so ago and can't recall any mention if Theon, except by other characters thinking he was dead. There definitely weren't any chapters related to him. That being said, I'm interested tosee where this goes though.
did the helper/kickass bow and arrow guy take out the younger bolton with that last quiver?
this would be a huge deviation from the book
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fitz bu47 is correct. The archer who frees Theon is Ramsey Bolton. The mailed Bolton soldier says "you little bastard" before getting shot in the face.
Theon is completely absent from ASoS. Had the producers stuck with only the PoVs from Book 3, Theon wouldn't see the screen again until 2015. That doesn't work for a number of reasons, so instead of having "Reek" recount his torture at Ramsey's hand in season 5/ AFfC, the producers are showing it to us in real time.
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returnofthemack
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Yeah definite spoiler material but thanks for clearing that up. I remember in the 5th book he "escapes" but it doesn't quite work out, but it was with a character we haven't met. but I think this was a good addition by the show.
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I deleted the last sentence, as that's the only "spoiler" from the books which hasn't been directly shown or alluded to in the TV series yet.
In my defense, you asked who he was!
mgriff
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SPOILERS
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
Missandei is highly suspicious. She's from Naath but she talks like a Braavosi, and also drops Valar Morghulis last night. When you examine her in ADWD, she's awful sneaky, and she sneaks up on Selmy successfully. Something is going down with her in the upcoming two books, but watching her on the episode last night really did it for me. They are obviously progressing the TV series quickly because of dead time and restraints, so maybe things become more apparent, or more emphasized with a more direct media, without all of the bells and whistles GRRM manages to weave into his stories. Missandei is a FM.
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
Missandei is highly suspicious. She's from Naath but she talks like a Braavosi, and also drops Valar Morghulis last night. When you examine her in ADWD, she's awful sneaky, and she sneaks up on Selmy successfully. Something is going down with her in the upcoming two books, but watching her on the episode last night really did it for me. They are obviously progressing the TV series quickly because of dead time and restraints, so maybe things become more apparent, or more emphasized with a more direct media, without all of the bells and whistles GRRM manages to weave into his stories. Missandei is a FM.
almost beginning to think that GRRM is gonna let he HBO series be the ending for this thing in lieu of that 7th book.
as of today he is about 60% done with book 6 if i recall.
i think the man is burnt out on all this...
agree with above on missandei dropping the valar marghulis quote--never did she utter those words in the books.
as of today he is about 60% done with book 6 if i recall.
i think the man is burnt out on all this...
agree with above on missandei dropping the valar marghulis quote--never did she utter those words in the books.
oh i know i know i do appreciate clearing that up for me-it actually makes sense.
i was just looking out for folks who havent read (and if like me forgot damn near everything it seems) all the books
peoriairish
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This was my point. I'm not opposed to the songs, I rather like modern music in 'period' shows/movies. But it just took away from the darkness and complexity of the scene.
The hand chop was gnarly. As for criticizing using a "punk" song for the closing credits...lol. Google GG Allin.
peoriairish
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Good Lord... dude was messed up.
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Finally caught up after being in Chicago.
All there is to say:
All there is to say:
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This episode...WOW!
The enjoyment during an episode is matched equally by the frustration of realizing I have to wait a week for the next one.
The enjoyment during an episode is matched equally by the frustration of realizing I have to wait a week for the next one.
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Cant wait to watch it
Loved the episode. One reason I love the books is because the author is so descriptive and allows you to really visualize what is happening, along with the surroundings, etc. And then the show does such an excellent job of replicating the scenes from the book.
Repeatedly, I find myself watching the show in awe as a scene looks just how I imagined it in my mind while reading the book.
Repeatedly, I find myself watching the show in awe as a scene looks just how I imagined it in my mind while reading the book.
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NoJusticeNoPeace
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One of the best episodes of TV I can remember. They honestly surpassed the book with the Daenerys scene. That was just an unbelievable episode.
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I haven't read the books, but it's looking like Daenerys Targaryen is about to absolutely **** on some people and it's going to be awesome.
Tywin Lannister is such a boss. I really only think I hate Cersei, Joffrey, and Jaime. Tywin and Tyrion are extremely likeable, so far.
Tywin Lannister is such a boss. I really only think I hate Cersei, Joffrey, and Jaime. Tywin and Tyrion are extremely likeable, so far.
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oh my, sh** just got real!
gkIrish
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I began to like Jaime around this point in the plot. Tyrion is awesome. I don't want to spoil anything but there is so much ridiculousness yet to come. Can't wait to see it on TV.
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Loved that episode. The great thing about the way Martin writes is that there are some characters you loathe, but who grow and change. They redeem themselves and you find yourself suddenly liking or at least pitying them. Characters don't stay exactly the same.