'14 AZ WR Mark Andrews (Oklahoma Verbal)

[STLDomer]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just talked with coach Kelly, coach Martin, and coach Booker from ND all great coaches and good guys <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Irish">#Irish</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NorteDame">#NorteDame</a></p>— Mark Andrews (@Mandrews_81) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mandrews_81/status/304639767801384962">February 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[STLDomer]

Visiting April 6 for Spring Practice

Two other prospects are set visit then also

 

[Luckylucci]

Something that I thought was interesting was when the coaches talked to Dallis Todd they told him that we were only taking two receivers and since we already had Brent committed it had to be a slot type guy. While they might have told Todd that I doubt the same holds true for Andrews. This kid is quite the talent and I think they bring him in regardless.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Something that I thought was interesting was when the coaches talked to Dallis Todd they told him that we [are] only taking two receivers and since we already had Brent committed it had to be a slot type guy. While they might have told Todd that I doubt the same holds true for Andrews. This kid is quite the talent and I think they bring him in regardless.

Not sure that's true. These types of messages seem to get consistently garbled in the big game of "telephone" between our coaches, the recruits, the reporters, and us.

Assuming Onwualu starts his career on the outside, we need 2 X/W WRs to fill out the position. With Brent already on board, the staff will hopefully be very picky with that lost spot.

Slot receiver is even harder to project. We're currently projected to have 8 guys at RB/ Z WR through 2014, which means we're technically full. If the right guy wants in (Artavis Scott?), we'd probably take him, but if we continue using a lot of 12 and 13 personnel, I wouldn't be surprised to see the staff pass on one entirely.

 

[PANDFAN]

Something that I thought was interesting was when the coaches talked to Dallis Todd they told him that we were only taking two receivers and since we already had Brent committed it had to be a slot type guy. While they might have told Todd that I doubt the same holds true for Andrews. This kid is quite the talent and I think they bring him in regardless.

what makes him quite the talent in ur eyes? imo i think he would be a good flex te but was slow for a receiver and the kids he was playing against looked like some scrub competition..imo he would be a wait it out and see type thing

 

[IrishLax]

Not sure that's true. These types of messages seem to get consistently garbled in the big game of "telephone" between our coaches, the recruits, the reporters, and us.

Assuming Onwualu starts his career on the outside, we need 2 X/W WRs to fill out the position. With Brent already on board, the staff will hopefully be very picky with that lost spot.

Slot receiver is even harder to project. We're currently projected to have 8 guys at RB/ Z WR through 2014, which means we're technically full. If the right guy wants in (Artavis Scott?), we'd probably take him, but if we continue using a lot of 12 and 13 personnel, I wouldn't be surprised to see the staff pass on one entirely.

I think a huge reason for general confusion in the numbers game is the garbling between RB/Z. I don't know if any of us truly know how that position will be used sans Theo Riddick or how many bodies they're willing to take for those roles.... or if some prospects are viewed as pure ATHs that can play RB/Z/DB.

 

[Luckylucci]

what makes him quite the talent in ur eyes? imo i think he would be a good flex te but was slow for a receiver and the kids he was playing against looked like some scrub competition..imo he would be a wait it out and see type thing

Well I think that he'll be playing college ball as a 6'6 250 pound TE/WR or Flex player as you stated which will be a match up nightmare similar to Eifert. Also I don't think this kid is going to need too much time in the gym. He's put together pretty well for a 17 year old kid. I also like to follow the amount of attention recruits get from the staff. Usually thats a good indicator of how much they want a certain prospect. They have given Andrews a lot of attention.

 

[PANDFAN]

Well I think that he'll be playing college ball as a 6'6 250 pound TE/WR or Flex player as you stated which will be a match up nightmare similar to Eifert. Also I don't think this kid is going to need too much time in the gym. He's put together pretty well for a 17 year old kid. I also like to follow the amount of attention recruits get from the staff. Usually thats a good indicator of how much they want a certain prospect. They have given Andrews a lot of attention.

he's got a lot of growing to do...he looks like ben koyak coming out of HS not as tall though

good point! on the last bold statement

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I think a huge reason for general confusion in the numbers game is the garbling between RB/Z. I don't know if any of us truly know how that position will be used sans Theo Riddick or how many bodies they're willing to take for those roles.... or if some prospects are viewed as pure ATHs that can play RB/Z/DB.

That's a good point. In 2012, Eifert and Theo rarely ever came off the field. Now that we won't have proven play-makers at RB or TE, we may see a reversion to the 11 personnel that Kelly has favored historically (which would put a larger emphasis on Z WR).

But we're still projected to have 8 RB/ Z WRs through 2014, and most of those guys (Carlisle, McDaniel, Neal, Folston, & Hunter) could hold their own at the position.

 

[STLDomer]

I think the staff wants 1 RB, 1 outside WR, 1 inside WR, and 1 TE.

That being said, a 2nd RB and a WR/TE or big time WR is high on their list of best available they are pursuing

 

[GBdomer]

hes coming for blue gold game instead per bg

 

[clashmore_mike]

and wants to visit OSU and Michigan the two days prior.

 

[GBdomer]

I was wrong. This is from someone who knows what there talking about

Andrews is and will be a WR with the frame and skill set to play wide, in the slot as a de facto detached/move-TE, in the slot as a WR, or play through the backfield in a quasi-Hback role. But he's a WR and does not have the body structure to bulk into a pure or attached TE who blocks in-line, which is what separates him from an Eifert by comparison. He also possesses the abilities of a WR more so than, say, Tyler did.

Again, WR with a versatile role other than attached TE. We're recruiting Luatua, Blazevich and Schultz as the "pure" TEs, and Weishar, Bunting and others in the hybrid roles.

We like Andrews a lot.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Again, WR with a versatile role other than attached TE. We're recruiting Luatua, Blazevich and Schultz as the "pure" TEs, and Weishar, Bunting and others in the hybrid roles.

So we should consider Andrews as part of the latter group?

 

[GBdomer]

So we should consider Andrews as part of the latter group?

I didn't write that so I take no credit for it. But it sounds like they like Andrews as an outside guy with the ability to move around like Eifert. But he will never be a "pure" TE.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I didn't write that so I take no credit for it. But it sounds like they like Andrews as an outside guy with the ability to move around like Eifert. But he will never be a "pure" TE.

That makes sense. I'm just wondering if the first to commit of Andrews, Weisher and Bunting will freeze the other two out.

 

[Rizzophil]

I was wrong. This is from someone who knows what there talking about

Andrews is and will be a WR with the frame and skill set to play wide, in the slot as a de facto detached/move-TE, in the slot as a WR, or play through the backfield in a quasi-Hback role. But he's a WR and does not have the body structure to bulk into a pure or attached TE who blocks in-line, which is what separates him from an Eifert by comparison. He also possesses the abilities of a WR more so than, say, Tyler did.

Again, WR with a versatile role other than attached TE. We're recruiting Luatua, Blazevich and Schultz as the "pure" TEs, and Weishar, Bunting and others in the hybrid roles.

We like Andrews a lot.

Great post

 

[Luckylucci]

That makes sense. I'm just wondering if the first to commit of Andrews, Weisher and Bunting will freeze the other two out.

Haven't seen too much on that topic but on II they said that Latua is one they would continue to recruit regardless because of his versatility (they like him on defense too).

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Mentioned in the article today on BGI that the staff sees him as a hybrid (WR/TE) and could learn to play some with his hand on the ground...

Also said that he is planning on taking all five OVs and deciding after his season.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Rivals100">#Rivals100</a> receiver Mark Andrews plans to get his first look at <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> at the Blue-Gold Game ($): <a href="http://t.co/Rwp672vGEU" title="http://bit.ly/YcUUMC">bit.ly/YcUUMC</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/status/309356388268769280">March 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Grahambo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>2014 AZ WR Mark Andrews is ready to see <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> (Premium) <a href="http://t.co/sKQnGWOYF6" title="http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/recruiting/premium-football-recruiting/8867-andrews-ready-to-visit">irishsportsdaily.com/recruiting/pre…</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/311824934009716736">March 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[koonja]

Do you guys buy this guy as elite? His ratings say he is. I suck at judging speed on film, but he doesn't look terribly fast.

 

[PANDFAN]

Do you guys buy this guy as elite? His ratings say he is. I suck at judging speed on film, but he doesn't look terribly fast.

this is my take--i think he would be a good flex te but was slow for a receiver and the kids he was playing against looked like some scrub competition..imo he would be a wait it out and see type thing

 

[koonja]

this is my take--i think he would be a good flex te but was slow for a receiver and the kids he was playing against looked like some scrub competition..imo he would be a wait it out and see type thing

My exact thoughts. Great minds, average minds... looks like they all think alike . He is a tremendous blocker and a big bodied guy, though. And runs tough off acter the catch. He has it all, just not speed.

 

[yankeeND]

this is my take--i think he would be a good flex te but was slow for a receiver and the kids he was playing against looked like some scrub competition..imo he would be a wait it out and see type thing

That's pretty much what I was thinking too. He has the size to play TE and is fast for that position. The only guy I ever watched on film and thought, damn he's fast, is Keith Marshall. Other than that I'm not a good judge of it either.

 

[arrowryan]

Do you guys buy this guy as elite? His ratings say he is. I suck at judging speed on film, but he doesn't look terribly fast.

They're not going to use this kid bust the top off of a defense. This guy is a big body and is a mismatch that a secondary doesn't want to deal with. We have plenty of guys with speed, lets bring in a kid with size now

 

[Grahambo]

Jeff Samardzija wasn't a burner either but did ok. That's kinda how I view Mark Andrews.

 

[Irishman77]

They're not going to use this kid bust the top off of a defense. This guy is a big body and is a mismatch that a secondary doesn't want to deal with. We have plenty of guys with speed, lets bring in a kid with size now

I agree...create a mismatch, run 10-15 yards, box out, catch, repeat as much as necessary on 3rd and long. No need to put your hand in the dirt Mark...

 

[koonja]

Reminds me of Maurice Stovall.

 

[IrishLion]

Reminds me of Maurice Stovall.

Bingo. If I could see a Maurice Stovall reincarnated, I would be the happiest guy on earth. He was a tremendous example of a true "possession" receiver. Big body, makes the physical plays, but enough athleticism to make things happen after the catch and catch balls that he had no business getting to.