'13 CA P Andrew Antognoli (Notre Dame Preferred Walk-On Verbal)

[dad4aa]

Notre Dame doesn't give academic scholarships, as far as I know, just need-based and athletic.

In any case, even if it did, as soon as you took the field you would count toward the 85 limit, regardless of the fact that your scholarship is non-athletic. In other words, ND would only have 84 athletic scholarships to give out as long as you played for ND.

We were discussing this in another thread and NOLA looked up the rule.

Thanks. I appreciate the insight. So to make sure I am correct, had Rudy been on an academic scholarship (which may be a moot point since the post above stated ND does not give academic schollies...another fact I didn't know), because he saw the field he would now be counted toward the 85?

 

[Green Mountains]

Thanks. I appreciate the insight. So to make sure I am correct, had Rudy been on an academic scholarship (which may be a moot point since the post above stated ND does not give academic schollies...another fact I didn't know), because he saw the field he would now be counted toward the 85?

He would have counted vs. the 85 limit. If ND was at the limit, the moment he saw the field he would have lost his academic scholly.

And as is the case with multi-sport athletes, their scholarship counts against the higher revenue program. As a ND football and baseball player would always count against football. That way a school can't give a football player a "Fencing" scholarship and count it against the Fencing team (if ND even has varsity Fencing, just using it as an example).

 

[BGIF]

He would have counted vs. the 85 limit. If ND was at the limit, the moment he saw the field he would have lost his academic scholly.

And as is the case with multi-sport athletes, their scholarship counts against the higher revenue program. As a ND football and baseball player would always count against football. That way a school can't give a football player a "Fencing" scholarship and count it against the Fencing team (if ND even has varsity Fencing, just using it as an example).

"if ND even had varsity Fencing" ...


smh

 

[zbikowski88]

He would have counted vs. the 85 limit. If ND was at the limit, the moment he saw the field he would have lost his academic scholly.

And as is the case with multi-sport athletes, their scholarship counts against the higher revenue program. As a ND football and baseball player would always count against football. That way a school can't give a football player a "Fencing" scholarship and count it against the Fencing team (if ND even has varsity Fencing, just using it as an example).

2011 Fencing National Champs
2013 Mens and Womens teams both ranked in the Top 3

 

[Buster Bluth]

...and yet they don't have wrestling. smh

 

[BGIF]

2011 Fencing National Champs
2013 Mens and Womens teams both ranked in the Top 3

8 Times National Champs
4 Times in past decade

.903 All-Time Winning %.

277 All-Americans

Bednarski winningest % coach in ND History, .931 through 10 seasons

Only ND coach to win an NC in his First Year.

 

[Irishnuke]

This must be that epic finish to the recruiting season that TP was talking about a while back.

 

[Redbar]

8 Times National Champs
4 Times in past decade

.903 All-Time Winning %.

277 All-Americans

Bednarski winningest % coach in ND History, .931 through 10 seasons

Only ND coach to win an NC in his First Year.

God Bless Coach DeCicco, Fencing Guru, Hall of Famer....

Welcome aboard Andrew, very glad you made this decision, I hope you punt the ball out of the stadium and earn that full ride ASAP.

 

[ndfb3]

God Bless Coach DeCicco, Fencing Guru, Hall of Famer....

Welcome aboard Andrew, very glad you made this decision, I hope you punt the ball out of the stadium and earn that full ride ASAP.

I will take coffin corner at the 5 yard line.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

For all we know the staff told him he gets a scholly if we miss on remaining targets... right now if we don't land EV then it's Jake Golic or Tyler Stockton for an open scholly... might as well give it to a punter at that point if he's good.

Scholi should go to Joe Schmidt.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Idk how these kids can do both punting and kick off/field goals.. I was a kicker in high school, both punter and kicker, but my kicking was 10X better than punting.. I'd bang 50 yarders pretty easily and have kickoffs for touchbacks all the time, but punting was a whole different ballgame.. I had by far the strongest leg on the squad, and most experience with kicking (played soccer all my life, but all my buddies played football so I quit to join as the kicker) but other random kids with no background in punting could out-punt me.. I did both the kicking and the punting, but it's honestly like comparing apples to oranges.. I give a lot of respect to kids that can excel at both, because they're so different and two completely contradicting skill sets

 

[IrishLax]

Scholi should go to Joe Schmidt.

No, that doesn't make sense. He has too much eligibility left. We would be net -1 scholarship for the '14 class then unless the staff told him to expect to give it back... which would be almost more of a dick move than not giving it to him in the first place.

 

[IrishLax]

The more I look at this pickup the more awesome I think it is. We got an All-American at a position of need without using a scholarship... who also just happens to have strong academics as an added bonus. That's amazing and makes me truly happy. This is great news.

 

[vuirish]

This kid is from Fresno? Can we trust him?

 

[IrishinTN]

What? How can we waste all our preferred walk-ons on special teams guys?

Nice pick-up on this kid. Glad to see this move.

 

[Rhode Irish]

J. Golic or Stockton would be dead weight, but only for one more year. Offering a high school specialist ties up a scholarship for 4 years.

But I fear you may be right. Aside from the fact that he could eventually earn an athletic scholarship here, makes little sense to decommit from Harvard for ND.

I suppose football could just be really important to him, which is good for us. ND isn't Harvard - nothing is. But its a good enough school to justify the choice if it offers something you really want you can't get at Harvard (i.e., big-time football). Its not like he turned down Harvard for Auburn or Florida State. Still going to get an elite education.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Actually, Myron Rolle might be the only exception. If you win an academic scholarship based on your collegiate, not high school academic performance, completely independent of the needs of the football team and available in the same amount to a non-football player, you can play football without counting toward the 85 limit. If any such scholarships are available to upperclass FSU students, and Myron Rolle happened to win one, then FSU could have taken 86 kids that year or years. Strange exception, huh? Doubt it has ever been applied.

That is serious good knowledge right there. I love knowing rules, and I did not know that one. Makes total sense, too.

 

[yankeeND]

I was a little concerned about our kicking situation next year and this eases them tremendously. This is fantastic news!

 

[dshans]

...and yet they don't have wrestling. smh

When was it dropped? I had a number of friends on the wrestling team in my day. One, a classmate, is my bestest ND buddies to this day.

My parents even graciously agreed to have two members of the team spend a couple of nights with us my sophomore year at Christmas break. The wrestling team was in Florida for matches against a number of schools and I lived in Orlando. My mother was blown away by how much the heavyweight ate and how little the 130 lb. class wrestler ate.

 

[Kak7304]

Actually, Myron Rolle might be the only exception. If you win an academic scholarship based on your collegiate, not high school academic performance, completely independent of the needs of the football team and available in the same amount to a non-football player, you can play football without counting toward the 85 limit. If any such scholarships are available to upperclass FSU students, and Myron Rolle happened to win one, then FSU could have taken 86 kids that year or years. Strange exception, huh? Doubt it has ever been applied.

If this is true, I'm really surprised Bama hasn't used this loophole to have 100 kids on scholarship. Saban is an expert at exploiting loopholes like this.

 

[Irish.Ca]

I'd give him the scholly if its available. I bet he gets more yards for the Irish in his first year than Davonte Neal did (no fault of his own nor offends intended to d n). Kick that pig skin lad! Welcome

 

[95NDAlumNM]

When was it dropped? I had a number of friends on the wrestling team in my day. One, a classmate, is my bestest ND buddies to this day.

My parents even graciously agreed to have two members of the team spend a couple of nights with us my sophomore year at Christmas break. The wrestling team was in Florida for matches against a number of schools and I lived in Orlando. My mother was blown away by how much the heavyweight ate and how little the 130 lb. class wrestler ate.

dshans,

I believe it was back in the late 80's or early 90's. I seem to recall when my first year (91') that there was a lot of talk about it because they had just discontinued it.

 

[palinurus]

It must be that he wants to go to and play at ND, because he could still get an NFL shot playing at Harvard. I think Pat McInally did, if memory serves; I also think he was the only guy to score a perfect score on the Wonderlich (sp?) test.

 

[Irish#1]

I've been saying this for years. If you are a 3/4 star OL, why wouldn't you learn how to long snap too and save a roster spot for a team? I think that would be a nice feather in your cap if you're a decent OL coming out of high school.

Many a less than stellar linemen has made a decent living in the NFL as a LS, where as if they didn't have that talent would be cut.

 

[peoriairish]

It must be that he wants to go to and play at ND, because he could still get an NFL shot playing at Harvard. I think Pat McInally did, if memory serves; I also think he was the only guy to score a perfect score on the Wonderlich (sp?) test.

Ryan Fitzpatrick also went to Harvard and nailed his Wonderlic.

 

[RDU Irish]

...and yet they don't have wrestling. smh

I've seen James Bond fence, I have never seen him put on a singlet and go Greco-Roman on anyone. Although I think it is BS the Olympics dropped wrestling.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I've seen James Bond fence, I have never seen him put on a singlet and go Greco-Roman on anyone. Although I think it is BS the Olympics dropped wrestling.

Quality Bump. And I opened the thread dreading he got injured.