'13 FL RB Tarean Folston (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[ThePiombino]

I can remember Floyd, Tate, Shark, etc. drop a pass every now and again, too. That didn't mean that they had bad hands, it just meant they had a bad play.

Do me a favor and find in my post where I said GAIII had/has bad hands.

 

[PANDFAN]

Wasn't GA3 initially recruited as a wideout? Heck, I was a little disappointed last year when he was lined up at RB. I thought then that he'd make a great WR. I have no doubt that he could play outside WR or in the slot.

It was rb w/ possibility of moving him out ....then during practice frosh year BK mentionedas some have above he doesn't have the ball skills for a wr and was only practicing as RB....I can remember the press conference

 

[GoIrish41]

Do me a favor and find in my post where I said GAIII had/has bad hands.

I didn't say you said that, but some are arguing the "bad hands" thing and your post was pointing to a single play. I was just trying to make the point that a single play does not brick hands make. I probably shouldn't have quoted your post. Didn't mean to suggest you were making that argument.

 

[ThePiombino]

I didn't say you said that, but some are arguing the "bad hands" thing and your post was pointing to a single play. I was just trying to make the point that a single play does not brick hands make. I probably shouldn't have quoted your post. Didn't mean to suggest you were making that argument.

No worries, didn't understand why you were quoting me. I don't think there's enough evidence to support either argument. At least, not available to us.

 

[Kak7304]

It was rb w/ possibility of moving him out ....then during practice frosh year BK mentionedas some have above he doesn't have the ball skills for a wr and was only practicing as RB....I can remember the press conference

And lacking ball skills doesn't equate to bad hands which is the mistake some people are making here. It could have more to do with finding the ball out of a break, high pointing it, catching in traffic, being able to make a move and keep balance after a catch, using hands instead of catching with arms and chest, etc.

 

[GoIrish41]

No worries, didn't understand why you were quoting me. I don't think there's enough evidence to support either argument. At least, not available to us.

We are in complete agreement. My personal feeling by watching his athleticism is that he could do play WR, but you are right. Not enough evidence either way to prove if he could or not.

 

[Irish Fam]

Wow. Any thoughts on Folston, guys?

 

[IrishLax]

No, "we" were indeed talking about his hands. At least I was, and I was the one that brought the subject up. My concern is why people say that "he cant catch", when I don't see any proof of that. Can he play with the same capabilities as Riddick? Probably not, but that doesn't mean that he cant catch. Maybe he has even gotten better at catching passes. But why do we have to have "another Riddick"?

What? You're saying you just brought that up out of the blue? Because you didn't. This was always directly related to the Riddick role.

Southern Comfort says: I think he could get better PT at Aurburn.
I quote him and say: Eh, I don't know for the Riddick role I don't think he has anyone to be afraid of besides Carlisle.
You quote me and say: Is there any evidence he can't catch? I've never seen it.

So no... we're not debating whether or not he can physically catch a ball. 99.9% of men can physically catch a football. We were always debating this in context of being a legitimate receiving threat at RB.

Why do we have to have another Riddick? Well we don't 'need' another Riddick but it's been very clear from quotes from multiple recruits that the staff is recruiting specifically for that position. So it's a moot point whether or not we "have to have" one... that's what they're telling some kids they're recruiting for.

You ask for evidence that he can't catch... well he had at least a 33% drop rate this year and had a grand total of 4 yards receiving. No... that's not a large sample size. But there's absolutely zero evidence that's he's capable of being a viable receiver and I'll bet you any amount of money that you want that he doesn't get double digit catches the next two seasons.

 

[PANDFAN]

Atkinson was originally tabbed as a wideout prospect even though he rushed for 1,669 yards and nearly 10 yards per carry as a high school senior at Granada High near his Stockton, Calif. hometown. At 6-1, he was potentially too much of an upright runner, and with the need for speed at wideout to put some pressure on defensive coverages and help spread the field vertically, Atkinson appeared to be the man to fill that void. Nevertheless, despite a thin rotation at wideout last year and a strong 1-2 combination with 1,000-yard rusher Wood and the breakout campaign of the now graduated Jonas Gray, Kelly deemed Atkinson a more natural running back and had him apprentice there in his first year while trying to improve his skills when the ball is in the air. This year with the creation of the hybrid running back/slot position, Atkinson’s versatility might be better utilized. 2012 Role The first and foremost job of Atkinson, a

 

[woolybug25]

What? You're saying you just brought that up out of the blue? Because you didn't. This was always directly related to the Riddick role.

Southern Comfort says: I think he could get better PT at Aurburn.
I quote him and say: Eh, I don't know for the Riddick role I don't think he has anyone to be afraid of besides Carlisle.
You quote me and say: Is there any evidence he can't catch? I've never seen it.

So no... we're not debating whether or not he can physically catch a ball. 99.9% of men can physically catch a football. We were always debating this in context of being a legitimate receiving threat at RB.

Why do we have to have another Riddick? Well we don't 'need' another Riddick but it's been very clear from quotes from multiple recruits that the staff is recruiting specifically for that position. So it's a moot point whether or not we "have to have" one... that's what they're telling some kids they're recruiting for.

You ask for evidence that he can't catch... well he had at least a 33% drop rate this year and had a grand total of 4 yards receiving. No... that's not a large sample size. But there's absolutely zero evidence that's he's capable of being a viable receiver and I'll bet you any amount of money that you want that he doesn't get double digit catches the next two seasons.

You were having a completely seperate conversation about the rb/z role and I asked why people keep saying that he "cant catch". Two seperate subjects. I brought up the hands, you were talking about the z-role. In fact, if you read my first comment, it was directed to the board, not you in particular.

Where are you getting the 33% drop rate? Did he even have three passes in front of the line of scrimmage?

 

[IrishLax]

You were having a completely seperate conversation about the rb/z role and I asked why people keep saying that he "cant catch". Two seperate subjects. I brought up the hands, you were talking about the z-role. In fact, if you read my first comment, it was directed to the board, not you in particular.

Where are you getting the 33% drop rate? Did he even have three passes in front of the line of scrimmage?

Then why did you quote me? That typically means you're responding directly to that person and continuing that conversation. I do understand what you're saying... you put it out there to the board if there was any evidence besides a haphazard quote from Kelly. I guess you meant to segue away from what we were talking about, I didn't know that. In all seriousness, if you don't want to talk about how it relates to the RB/Z role and Folston's potential early PT then we shouldn't even be talking in this thread and should move it elsewhere.

As far as drop rate... he caught two passes and I'm sure he dropped 1... that means he dropped at least 33% of passes thrown to him. Can't be any better than that, but it can be worse if I missed another drop or two somewhere. Again, I'll gladly go find the drop if you want to link me youtube videos that have the junk edited out and just all the offensive plays. Just let me know.

 

[woolybug25]

Then why did you quote me? That typically means you're responding directly to that person and continuing that conversation. I do understand what you're saying... you put it out there to the board if there was any evidence besides a haphazard quote from Kelly. I guess you meant to segue away from what we were talking about, I didn't know that. In all seriousness, if you don't want to talk about how it relates to the RB/Z role and Folston's potential early PT then we shouldn't even be talking in this thread and should move it elsewhere.

As far as drop rate... he caught two passes and I'm sure he dropped 1... that means he dropped at least 33% of passes thrown to him. Can't be any better than that, but it can be worse if I missed another drop or two somewhere. Again, I'll gladly go find the drop if you want to link me youtube videos that have the junk edited out and just all the offensive plays. Just let me know.

If you read my first post, I was addressing everyone. I quoted you because you mentioned that he couldn't catch. It's all semantics, don't worry about it. We can move on.

I don't feel like 4 passes is a big enough subset to actually attibute statistical analysis to. Just my opinion.

 

[Irish#1]

Folston? Folston? Anyone?

 

[KPENN]

Per 24/7 met with the staff and them he's coming to ND. Auburn is meeting with him tonight too

 

[zbikowski88]

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[IrishLax]

Great update... told staff today in in home he's coming to ND.....

 

[Grahambo]

Great update... told staff today in in home he's coming to ND.....

I feel a but coming on.

 

[IrishLax]

Buttttttttttttttttttt Auburn visiting this evening so I'm sure they'll put the screws on him, tell him how horrible ND is, obfuscate facts about academics, and do other things to confuse him.

We won't be out of the woods until the fax is received.

 

[Redbar]

Man that is great news. Needed that.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I mean wouldn't he just cancel their visit if he was done?

 

[jerboski]

Ha this drama is far from over, I am positive after the Auburn visit tonight, we will be back to square one and he will be considering both schools and its 50-50 on signing day.

 

[Oberon]

I mean wouldn't he just cancel their visit if he was done?

Probably just getting the info out to make Auburn up their offer

 

[yankeeND]

I feel a but coming on.

If there's a but, it's hold onto your butts until NSD.

 

[IrishLax]

I mean wouldn't he just cancel their visit if he was done?

Winner, winner chicken dinner! Actions speak louder than words. Even if he intends on signing with ND, letting them back in his living room is going to cause issues. These are the kind of guys that don't take no for an answer. And Folston seems very impressionable.

I still don't think we land him in the end.

 

[Redbar]

Ha this drama is far from over, I am positive after the Auburn visit tonight, we will be back to square one and he will be considering both schools and its 50-50 on signing day.

That is always true. It is still very positive news, given how things were appearing.

 

[magogian]

If we don't get him, I'll be super pissed. We pushed away several good RBs because we were focused on this kid.

 

[irishff1014]

If we don't get him, I'll be super pissed. We pushed away several good RBs because we were focused on this kid.

Don't be surprised if it happens.

 

[clashmore_mike]

So back to Atkinson, can he catch a cold?

 

[ThePiombino]

Wiltfong has an update stating that the visit went very well and the staff was told that TF would be coming to ND. Auburn has an in-home tonight. Hopefully TF tells them thanks but no thanks.

 

[arrowryan]

Wiltfong has an update stating that the visit went very well and the staff was told that TF would be coming to ND. Auburn has an in-home tonight. Hopefully TF tells them thanks but no thanks.

About time we got some good news tonight