BK stays at ND

[NDBoiler]

FWIW, I heard Chris Landry on the radio this morning saying he doesn't think BK would take the Eagles job and he pegged at a "25% chance".

 

[NDohio]

Kelly's interview with Eagles indicates high standards for Irish - CBSSports.com

1/11/13



This is why a national coach of the year struck quickly: The bar has been set for him and his program. There is no going back. Win 12, at least, each season. Ten wins won't be acceptable, probably not after this season. Not for Kelly, not for long.






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The thing is this is a media made up pressure. Everyone on here has stated they would be OK with consistent 10 win seasons and runs at the NCG every so many years.

 

[chicago51]

The possibility of a head coaching vacancy and John Gruden hasn't been mentioned yet? This has to be in record of some sort?

I said yesterday to that if we get Gruden we can run Spider 2 Y Bannana all day long on teams. If we play Bama again Saban won't know what hit him.

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[chicago51]

I'll take my chances on his .809 winning percentage and home field dominance. Makes $4.3 million.

In regards to Bob Stoops and his brother as DC:

Mike Stoops has only been back as DC for one year. There defense was a bit bettter than last year. Yes the OU defense has been below par for an elite program the last 5 years or so. Back in the early and mid 2000s the Stoops brothers had one of the best defenses in the nation. Its not like ND became # 1 in scoring D over night. I think the Stoops brothers will get the OU defense back on track.

Now that being said hopefully we don't have to go down this road.

 

[phork]

Thank God there is really nothing to all these rumours.
Sincerely,
Smoke & Fire

NOTHING TO SEE HERE LOCK THREAD

Also, pay the assistants. You want to remain competitive, you have to do it.

 

[PANDFAN]

ESPN's John Clayton just said he picked up on Brian Kelly's NFL interest "2 weeks ago." Can't make ND feel any better. Surprised to hear it.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I hate to even feel this way considering I was excited when we hired him and thought it was the right choice, but at this point I really don't care if he stays or goes. I just would like a statement by him or the University with if he's staying or, as BK use to say, 'next man in'. As a fan, and I'm sure current players/recruits/and alums, I just would like to know who will be continuing to lead this program back to the forefront of CFB. BK or someone else. I've seen at least one current player state that even without BK this team is loaded with talent, and recruits tweet that they aren't committed for the coach but rather the University. If they chose to go elsewhere, this University wasn't the right fit then. BK good luck in your ventures, wether here or somewhere else.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Casey Matthews wouldn't start at Notre Dame right now. ****ing worst starting NFL middle LB I have ever seen.

lmao so true

 

[tadman95]

Does anyone else have the sense that our 2013 recruits are doing more to hold things together than Notre Dame? Geez...

 

[Irish Insanity]

Does anyone else have the sense that our 2013 recruits are doing more to hold things together than Notre Dame? Geez...

Just imagine how many recruiting violations are being committed by other school right now trying to flip our current verbals.

 

[BGIF]

The thing is this is a media made up pressure. Everyone on here has stated they would be OK with consistent 10 win seasons and runs at the NCG every so many years.

Years ago some ND students were going to Rockne's grave and ran into Bob Davie on the way. They asked him to join them. At the gravesite each one said something in turn about Rockne and ND football. When it got around to Davie, he said, "Gee, why did you have to make it so hard?"

Parshegian used to tell the story that when he became the head coach, a alumnus came up to him and told him, "Coach, we're with you - win or tie!"

Holtz told the story that after the NCAA voted to abolish tie games through overtime, an ND alumnus came up to him and said empathically, "Coach we're with you - WIN!"


It's not the media that set the bar, it was the coaches and players of Notre Dame. Harper, Rockne, Layden, Leahy, Brennan (his first 2 seasons), Parshegian, Devine, Holtz and now Kelly.

10 wins under most of those guys was impressive as that usually meant a Perfect or 1 Loss season. Today with 12 game seasons and a bowl game, it means a 3 loss season or a .769 winning percentage.

That's the equivalent of the records of
Layden 0.76984
Holtz 0.76515,
Devine 0.76429.

Not too shabby.


Of course, the truly great ones averaged, on an equivalent 13 game schedule, 11-2, 0.84615

Rockne 0.88115
Harper 0.86250
Leahy 0.85514
Parshegian 0.83621

People today think ND football started to decline in with the BC loss in '93. Actually the decline started in 1956. ND entered that year with a 0.811 All-Time Winning Percentage or 10.5 wins on a 13 game basis. That wasn't a good year. That was average!

Since Leahy "retired" only Parshegian over his ND career met the Standard that was Notre Dame. That's the reason why ND was so admired ... and so despised. They were head and shoulders better than the rest.

Kelly right now is 28 - 11, 0.71795. IF he has another 12-1 season he'll be in Ladyen's territory. (BTW Layden never won an NC.) A 10-3 season would put Kelly at 0.73077 considerably below Holtz et al. which is the point I believe Dodd was trying to make.

To paraphrase Charlie Weis for a 13 game year, "10-3 isn't good enough".

Think not, than consider the records of Earl Bruce who won over 75% of his games at OSU and John Cooper who won over 71%. Both were lin the neighborhood of an equivalent 10 -3, 13 game year. Both were let go. Neither won a NC.

At ND Kelly will be expected to reload every year. Dodd is pointing out the expectation level is different in Philadelphia. He's right.

 

[Kak7304]

Does anyone else have the sense that our 2013 recruits are doing more to hold things together than Notre Dame? Geez...

They really are a special group of guys, on and off the field.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Did anyone catch what Mayock said on Mike and Mike???

 

[RDU Irish]

almost 1300 posts on this, unbelievable

Kelly is still on the ND learning curve and is a developer of young men. I could understand someone like Saban fitting the NFL HC profile but Kelly really needs to put up two or three more years of BCS qualifying results before he makes sense to me as a potential NFL HC. Also from a family persepective I would want to get some kids out of school before taking on the NFL and maybe, just maybe, stay put for more than three years.

Then again, I think firing Lovie Smith was pretty stupid (rather par for the course for Bears GM). Flakey GMs would take a chance on him but I don't see why Philly would take such a big chance.

 

[PANDFAN]

Did anyone catch what Mayock said on Mike and Mike???

yes...thought that he would make a good nfl coach because he is smart...figured it would take some time to learn the nfl game w/ free agency etc...pair him w/ a good gm and good young coordinators and he would be fine

 

[RDU Irish]

Did anyone catch what Mayock said on Mike and Mike???

Thought Kelly would be good a good NFL head coach. Also thought he could be mayor of Boston or CEO of a Fortune 500 company if he set his mind to it. No opinion on McCarron but Manti is a 1st rounder despite crappy BCS game.

 

[BGIF]

almost 1300 posts on this, unbelievable

Kelly is still on the ND learning curve and is a developer of young men. I could understand someone like Saban fitting the NFL HC profile but Kelly really needs to put up two or three more years of BCS qualifying results before he makes sense to me as a potential NFL HC. ...

I don't understand NFL interest at this point. He's still OJT at ND. (And he'd only be 7th in the SEC so I've heard.)

What offense does Kelly run in the NFL?

If he had a sharp OC would he let him call the plays?

 

[Irishbounty28]

Poster over on DD stated that he has it on good authority that BK will be back. Also that he has negotiated significant pay raises for his assistants, as well as extending his contract.

Not sure the source, but those over there feel he has been a good source of info.

 

[jerboski]

Dan Murphy from B&G is saying that Coach Kelly is for sure not out of the country so I dont understand why nobody can reach him and get a read on this. By the way, I know it has been asked many times but is the dead period over today or tomorrow?

 

[arrowryan]

I really wish he wouldn't have gone on vacation now, I wish he would've done it in February. It isn't helping him with either Notre Dame or the Eagles. This probably would've been settled yesterday if he was in town. His greed could cost him more recruits and critical positions. Idk when he gets back but he needs to get back ASAP

 

[Rhode Irish]

If leverage was the ploy all that was necessary was for Kelly to mention to Swarbrick or Jenkins that XYZ has approached him about an interview. Or his agent could have done instead. Neither Swarbrick nor Jenkins are obtuse. I would expect both of them to be anticipating "feelers".

Rockne flirted with annual offers and used the leverage adroitly. I recall Weis getting a big contract adjustment after a big season (which used to be an average season) but I don't recall him getting on a plane to make it happen.

There have been several changes at ND in the past few years which have benefited football AND other sports, such as EEs, Training Table, HC and assistant's salaries, etc. Since Monk has left office several draconian policies have eased for the entire student body including athletes. ND as an administration is much more "coach friendly then they were during the Holtz years and so far ND's graduation hasn't suffered.

Sorry but I don't understand Kelly interviewing a few days after the climb to the mountain top. You savor the moments and readjust your battle plan for the next assault.

People are still whining about a missed calls in the NCG causing a "loss of momentum". What the hell is an interview for a new job, 3 weeks from NSD?

People are chiding Anzalone for "taking a new job" in essence. They're incensed that he would say that ND is his dream school, that he was happy here, and then "poof" be gone. Sounds familiar to me expect one is 18 years old and one should know better how to handle things appropriately at his level.

The issue is with the agent. They're hired specifically to steer the ship in these situations, and in this case the agent's efforts seem clumsy to the point of being incompetent. I think most of us understand the game that is being played, but playing it so transparently almost defeats the purpose. To use a football analogy, you have to sell the fake in order to pull off a play action pass. If the other guys don't buy it you'll get your QB killed. The way this has been handled gives me the impression that Trace Armstrong isn't a very sophisticated guy. There was no finesse to this at all, so far as I can tell.

 

[JughedJones]

Dan Murphy from B&G is saying that Coach Kelly is for sure not out of the country so I dont understand why nobody can reach him and get a read on this. By the way, I know it has been asked many times but is the dead period over today or tomorrow?

12:01 AM Saturday

(I'm almost positive.)

 

[domerfreak]

Found this on the espn board, but unable to find it else where. Having said that and considering the source:

Notre Dame Fighting Irish Forum - ESPN

and begin

 

[jerboski]

The issue is with the agent. They're hired specifically to steer the ship in these situations, and in this case the agent's efforts seem clumsy to the point of being incompetent. I think most of us understand the game that is being played, but playing it so transparently almost defeats the purpose. To use a football analogy, you have to sell the fake in order to pull off a play action pass. If the other guys don't buy it you'll get your QB killed. The way this has been handled gives me the impression that Trace Armstrong isn't a very sophisticated guy. There was no finesse to this at all, so far as I can tell.

I agree this situation if in fact is a ploy to get more compensation for him and his assistants could have been handled much better. Coach Kelly could have simply met with Jack and informed him that he was receiving real interest from NFL teams and if something isnt done about making salaries more competitive with the other major programs than he would start listening to some of these offers. None of this needed to be aired publicly and now it's affecting our recruits, future recruits and Coach Kelly's reputation. I just think in a nutshell that this is complete nonsense and a horrible way to handle the situation

 

[arrowryan]

710 guests are on irishenvy. Wonder how many of them are U$C and scUM fans. Lol

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Tweet from TP. Unsure what it relates to, figured I stick it here.

@turningpointnd: Gonna be a great day to be Irish! &#55356;&#57152;

 

[JughedJones]

well, that made me smile.

 

[aubeirish]

I really wish he wouldn't have gone on vacation now, I wish he would've done it in February. It isn't helping him with either Notre Dame or the Eagles. This probably would've been settled yesterday if he was in town. His greed could cost him more recruits and critical positions. Idk when he gets back but he needs to get back ASAP

It's dead period. The man deserve a vacation after this kind of season. Recruits are not that stupid, they will wait to see what really happen with all this before jumping the gun. Anzalone was going to go anyways. He is no reference.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Tweet from TP. Unsure what it relates to, figured I stick it here.

@turningpointnd: Gonna be a great day to be Irish! í ¼í½€

Needs more cat pics.


(Just kidding people, don't start posting cats in here(

 

[Irish Insanity]

Tweet from TP. Unsure what it relates to, figured I stick it here.

@turningpointnd: Gonna be a great day to be Irish! 🍀

It's always a great day to be Irish. But I know usually tweets like this from him allude to something more.