Jan 7 | BCS National Championship | Alabama

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I remember before the OU game was telling me ND was going to lose. I came back to work and class the following Monday and noboby said a word. There was kind of this akward silence after some of the aggressive anti-ND comments. I didn't say a word either, no "I was right" bragging kind of statements but everyone knew ND proved them wrong.

So now as I here the anti ND comments again. I hoping I get same kind of silence on Tuesday Jan 8th at work and when I return to class from break Jan 14th.

Lot of South Side Irish where I work. People here are almost as jacked up as I am. No idea how I will be productive today with all this excitement. Three hours into the workday ... haven't gotten very far.
 

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They are comparing it to David VS Goliath. Well, we all know how that turned out! :)
 

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It did suck that Oklahoma got stomped in the Cotton Bowl, because they were arguably our best win.

But on the other hand, Clemson scored more on LSU than Alabama did, and Nebraska but up more on Georgia than Alabama did. (Not to mention the whole lost-to-A&M thing). So the good news is that Alabama isn't nearly as good this year as their previous NC teams.

You can't look at bowl results objectively. Teams are normally quite different than they were during the regular season, and the extra long preparation time is not used equally by all.

This is my biggest worry going into the game tonight.

Will we be as sound defensively after the layover? Will our timing be off?

The jitters are starting to creep on my soul boys. My faith should get me through till game time. Then I should be fine.
 

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Ha -- for reals.

As dorky as it sounds, I'm hunkered down in my house...My wife offered some Guiness for the occasion, but I told her I needed to concentrate on the game...:)
 

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You can't look at bowl results objectively. Teams are normally quite different than they were during the regular season, and the extra long preparation time is not used equally by all.

This is my biggest worry going into the game tonight.


Will we be as sound defensively after the layover? Will our timing be off?

The jitters are starting to creep on my soul boys. My faith should get me through till game time. Then I should be fine.

To me it's our biggest advantage. With a RS frosh QB, we need the extra practice more than 'Bama does. Golson basically had another spring practice to improve. I expect a few new wrinkles offensively. Kelly has said that the team that makes the most mistakes may actually win this game, because that will be the team that is playing aggressively.

Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly meets the press for the last time before kickoff (transcript) | al.com
 

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Ha -- for reals.

As dorky as it sounds, I'm hunkered down in my house...My wife offered some Guiness for the occasion, but I told her I needed to concentrate on the game...:)

I drink a Guiness after EVERY victory.

And I drink one before season opening kickoff each season.


I got one ready. I will be home alone with my dogs. The wife will go to her mothers, as she does every saturday. If we win, she comes home immediately, if we lose, she stays a little longer.
 

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Football Outsiders' Bill Connelly offers a final breakdown of ND v. 'Bama here. I particularly enjoyed his description of our "13-man defense":

Not every 3-4 defense is alike. From a 3-4 look, you can either choose to attack the backfield with voracity or play as passively as possible. Alabama falls somewhere in the middle, and Notre Dame skews significantly toward the latter. The Tide rarely rush more than four defenders at the passer (until third-and-long, anyway, when they send five or six and get to your quarterback within about 0.4 seconds), but you never really know where those four pass rushers are going to come from. The Tide are not infinitely aggressive, but they are wild and crazy compared to Notre Dame, which features probably the best 3-4 line in the country (it is difficult to improve on ends Stephon Tuitt and Kapron Lewis-Moore and tackle Louis Nix III), one that is both active enough to generate fierce pressure on its own (those three players have combined for 29 tackles for loss and 21.5 sacks) and big enough to occupy and entire offensive line by itself (the three average 6'4, 312 pounds).

Notre Dame, of course, also features an inside linebacker so good that he almost won the Heisman. Manti Te'o's stats may be some of the oddest you'll see from a star linebacker, but they reflect the odd, complete game Te'o brings to the table. Te'o plays the role, basically, of two different linebackers on any given play: a run-stopper and a third safety; meanwhile, the three-man line plays the role of four linemen. Good luck, then, against that 13-man defense. As with the Notre Dame offense, the Irish defense doesn't take any more risks than it has to, and why should it? The Irish can generate a numbers advantage on virtually every play of the game without doing anything crazy.

Only three opponents have averaged even 5.0 yards per play against Notre Dame this year: Navy (5.7, mostly after the Irish had built a solid lead), Miami (5.4, again mostly after the Irish had built a solid lead) and USC (5.5). Meanwhile, Alabama has been held under 6.3 yards per play just once all year (4.7 against Ole Miss, strangely enough). Alabama does what it does, and it works. But can the Tide carve out the same advantages against a 13-man Irish defense?
 

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To me it's our biggest advantage. With a RS frosh QB, we need the extra practice more than 'Bama does. Golson basically had another spring practice to improve. I expect a few new wrinkles offensively. Kelly has said that the team that makes the most mistakes may actually win this game, because that will be the team that is playing aggressively.

Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly meets the press for the last time before kickoff (transcript) | al.com

Unless, of course, the "mistake" is something like fumbling on the goal line and kicking it to the other team, who runs it in for a TD...
 

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Oh boy this sounds so much like the time leading up to the Oklahoma game. It's almost comical to hear all of the talk. I'm not so much talking about the media, because for the most part they seem to have bought it, but more so the average Joe. I hang around a few betting forums and everyone is in love with Alabama -10. We don't have the talent or speed to hang around. Alabama is too talented and to fast for us...whatever. The 34-6 is the most common score prediction. So they aren't even predicting anyone to watch for very long.

I love all this talk. It makes me laugh and shake my head. I did have a very bad dream a few nights ago and actually woke up thinking I missed the National Championship game. I really love how no one is giving us a chance. I can find no reason that they wouldn't. My prediction is that Louis Nix smacks Barrett Jones around all game long. We do need to hit them early and make a statement early though.

What does everyone want to start the game? I personally think if ND wins the toss that they take the ball and try and go score. What do you think?

I don't mind when the "experts" criticize ND using good, informed analysis. It bugs me when they don't have a clue what they are talking about. I was listening to that asshat Cowherd on the radio this morning and he was saying ND's offense can't keep up with Bama. He said ND's offense has struggled at times (which I agree with), but he used the Pitt and BC games as his supporting evidence. Pitt was a letdown game and BC we did what needed to be done and just didn't feel the need to put the gas pedal all the way down.

I think if ND wins the toss, we should defer. Let Golson settle down a bit and get some of the jitters out sitting on the sidelines. Let our stellar defense set the tone early. I think that unit is going be less susceptible to the hype and the nerves than the offense.
 

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My Game Breakdown for Notre Dame

My Game Breakdown for Notre Dame

When the Irish are on offense...

Stick to your identity, you have done it all year and there is no need to go away from it now. I think if they can average around 3.5 ypc then they should be fine on offense. If they can do that then that will open up the passing game to Eifert and hopefully we can get one big pass to Brown. Getting Theo lined up with a linebacker is very key in this game.They can't turn the ball over and help the Alabama offense. If they can play a turnover free game and execute then I think they could put up plenty of points.

Kelly can not hold anything back on offense. Bring everything out; boot leg, PA pass, Shotgun, screens, everything! Make Bama play on their heels.

When Notre Dame is on defense...

Stop/minimize there running game and take out Cooper in the passing game and you have pretty much stopped their whole offense. Put Russell on Cooper with a safety over the top and put 7-8 in the box. Get off the field as fast as possible, this will minimize being tired in the 4th quarter. With Jones playing injured, Nix needs to place his dominance on him early and often. Plugging the middle is very important to stop Lacy/Yeldon.
 
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I don't mind when the "experts" criticize ND using good, informed analysis. It bugs me when they don't have a clue what they are talking about. I was listening to that asshat Cowherd on the radio this morning and he was saying ND's offense can't keep up with Bama. He said ND's offense has struggled at times (which I agree with), but he used the Pitt and BC games as his supporting evidence. Pitt was a letdown game and BC we did what needed to be done and just didn't feel the need to put the gas pedal all the way down.

I think if ND wins the toss, we should defer. Let Golson settle down a bit and get some of the jitters out sitting on the sidelines. Let our stellar defense set the tone early. I think that unit is going be less susceptible to the hype and the nerves than the offense.

Wait, our offense struggled against Pitt?

522 yards and 29 points...I hope we struggle that much against Bama.
 

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I don't mind when the "experts" criticize ND using good, informed analysis. It bugs me when they don't have a clue what they are talking about. I was listening to that asshat Cowherd on the radio this morning and he was saying ND's offense can't keep up with Bama. He said ND's offense has struggled at times (which I agree with), but he used the Pitt and BC games as his supporting evidence. Pitt was a letdown game and BC we did what needed to be done and just didn't feel the need to put the gas pedal all the way down.

I think if ND wins the toss, we should defer. Let Golson settle down a bit and get some of the jitters out sitting on the sidelines. Let our stellar defense set the tone early. I think that unit is going be less susceptible to the hype and the nerves than the offense.

I respectfully disagree. We should take the ball, run no huddle down the field, and show Bama we're playing to win.

Saban HATES the no-huddle...and if we sustain a drive, will not only wear out that first string, but punch them in the mouth to start the game.

I want Bama playing from BEHIND the entire game. Even if it's 3 points.
 

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So this Thread says that the game is at 8:30 ET, and ESPN says the game is at 8:00 ET. Will someone please fix the time. It would be terrible for someone to miss the first 30 minutes of the game.
 

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Coverage starts at 8 ET. The kickoff probably won't be until 8:30 ish. I think I may have seen 8:22 ET for kick (probably wrong).
 

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I get to watch the game three hours before most of you :)
 

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Yep - wearing my green shirt and ND tie here in SC. I received a lot of "looks" at lunch.
 

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kick off isnt until after 830pm (most likely 837pm)it has not been stated officially yet only as i have mentioned
 

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I respectfully disagree. We should take the ball, run no huddle down the field, and show Bama we're playing to win.

Saban HATES the no-huddle...and if we sustain a drive, will not only wear out that first string, but punch them in the mouth to start the game.

I want Bama playing from BEHIND the entire game. Even if it's 3 points.

Agree I want Bama to panic and get away from the run. Despite Johnny Football's exploits against them Bama still could have won but they paniced and got out of their game plan.
 

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When the Irish are on offense...

Stick to your identity, you have done it all year and there is no need to go away from it now. I think if they can average around 3.5 ypc then they should be fine on offense. If they can do that then that will open up the passing game to Eifert and hopefully we can get one big pass to Brown. Getting Theo lined up with a linebacker is very key in this game.They can't turn the ball over and help the Alabama offense. If they can play a turnover free game and execute then I think they could put up plenty of points.

Kelly can not hold anything back on offense. Bring everything out; boot leg, PA pass, Shotgun, screens, everything! Make Bama play on their heels.

When Notre Dame is on defense...

Stop/minimize there running game and take out Cooper in the passing game and you have pretty much stopped their whole offense. Put Russell on Cooper with a safety over the top and put 7-8 in the box. Get off the field as fast as possible, this will minimize being tired in the 4th quarter. With Jones playing injured, Nix needs to place his dominance on him early and often. Plugging the middle is very important to stop Lacy/Yeldon.

Agree with all but the bolded. We won't put anyone specific on Cooper, and even if we did it would be Jackson. IMO
 

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Agree with all but the bolded. We won't put anyone specific on Cooper, and even if we did it would be Jackson. IMO

I'm pretty sure you are correct. ND I'm confident will stick with the Russell on the field (wide) side and Jackson on the boundary (short) side like they have all year.
 
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Wait, our offense struggled against Pitt?

522 yards and 29 points...I hope we struggle that much against Bama.

Yeah good point. I didn't even look at those stats. Thats what I mean. They use those games to support their views and it doesn't make any sense.
 

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So this Thread says that the game is at 8:30 ET, and ESPN says the game is at 8:00 ET. Will someone please fix the time. It would be terrible for someone to miss the first 30 minutes of the game.

Just put your butt in front of the TV at 7:00PM like the rest of us. lol
 
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Not sure if it's been posted, no time to go through the thread. Everyones favorite ESPN "talent" (using the word loosely) David Pollack said that "The only way ND wins this game is if they win turnovers". And that "No one has stopped Bama this year". His inference must then be that they stopped themselves w turnovers against TA&M (and their 100+ players). By that logic, perhaps ND should have played for the title last year. I hate David Pollack. I can not explain in words how badly I want the Irish to win tonight. I hope the turnovers are even and I hope ND wins by double digits. I hate the $EC like very few things (well, similar to Pollack himself). I realize hate is not a family value, but it applies here. Go Irish!
 
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