'12 NC DE Romeo Okwara (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Thank you TT. For some reason on my laptop pictures just show up as blank. By the time I switched to my phone to see if it worked you have corrected. May need the same help in Baratti's thread.

EDIT: if someone knows how to resolve my missing photo issue please let me know.
 

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Like Damefan said on his blog. I thought Darius Fleming left? Damn he looks big.
 

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I don't think you can use Instagram links for pics here

Yeah I see my mistake on that but I can't see any posted photo's on my home laptop or my work computer. Didn't know if it was something with my internet settings.
 
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Yeah I see my mistake on that but I can't see any posted photo's on my home laptop or my work computer. Didn't know if it was something with my internet settings.

Straight recklessness.
 
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This is what the first roster released by the athletic department says:


45 - Romeo Okwara - Outside Linebacker - 6-5/239 - FR - Charlotte,NC/Ardrey Kell
 

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I can't wait to see how this young man develops. Could become a beast at the cat position.
 

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In an article about Ben Councell on II, Pete says that Romeo's been moved to DOG from CAT. He kinda hints that it was a reaction to Danny Spond's injury.
 

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In an article about Ben Councell on II, Pete says that Romeo's been moved to DOG from CAT. He kinda hints that it was a reaction to Danny Spond's injury.

Kelly has said this himself, and yes, it's mostly due to Spond's injury. Romeo has apparently looked very good in pass coverage. Kelly also said if need be there's always the chance that Prince could moved to dog again. But, you can tell that Kelly would like to keep Prince at CAT with Ishaq.
 
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In an article about Ben Councell on II, Pete says that Romeo's been moved to DOG from CAT. He kinda hints that it was a reaction to Danny Spond's injury.

Yes. Kelly has commended Okwara twice or three times now. But on Saturday, Kelly said he was moving Romeo and CJ over because of their abilities to DOG. By my count I have heard of five times publicly or privately, Kelly has pointed out the "dynamic nature of Romeo's coverage skills." Kelly and ever other expert point out how rare it is to have a big man with such skills. He is also exceptionally fast with a freakish burst. (I am just saying).

This is why they are not going to convert him to a rush-DE. I don't know if there is such a thing but if there were, you would not sidline maybe your top, or one of your top five big skill athletes with a simple task, far short of using your rare skills, what? 25% of the time?

Romeo will be a DOG with, Ben, Jaylon, Danny, (thank God!) and maybe CJ. But CJ is a special guy in another way; how many guys have a shot at breaking the two deep at linebacker and are finalists for punt return specialists?
 

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Bogs, spot on, and great post. I have to be honest, I was not high on Romeo at all when we picked him up. The more I hear, the more I like. Just another reason my trust in BK grows daily.
 
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You know we have a bunch of them in this class: Brown, Ferguson, Turner, Barrati, Day (as good as we knew he would be he is still turning out much better), and Romeo. Ooopps forgot the two offensive linemen.
 

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still not very optimistic about this move. Romeo is too big to play in space. He is the ideal CAT LB or having his hands in the dirt going after the QB. I wonder if Kelly is simply trying a couple people out at DOG and seeing who sticks.
 

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With how much the staff is gushing over this kid and how great he looks in the film we are getting, this stat is all that more impressive.

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QB Jimmy Clausen turned 20 in Sept. of his freshman season at #NotreDame. Freshman OLB Romeo Okwara is on pace to be 20 when he graduates.
 
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still not very optimistic about this move. Romeo is too big to play in space. He is the ideal CAT LB or having his hands in the dirt going after the QB. I wonder if Kelly is simply trying a couple people out at DOG and seeing who sticks.

Why is Romeo too big to play in space? Is it written? Is it cause you say so?

How do you know this hand in the dirt stuff? I mean I posted a report a short time ago how Kelly spoke his very first words about Romeo, that he impressed the staff with his coverage ability. And then Kelly has said that about two or three times since practice began. And every report is he is doing well.

What is the problem with Romeo? Because dog skills are harder to find than cat, and if we have another great dog, we are going to be so much better off!
 

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Lets see, he has never done pass coverage before, his own words... He was recruited as a DE/CAT... This is essentially the same as putting Aaron Lynch at the DOG position. There is more on my side than yours Bog...

I am not saying Romeo is a bad player, but telling a cat to go "woof" simply doesnt work.

So it is written, so it is because I say so, and Romeo himself is my supporting cast.
 

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I don't think Kelly is putting guys he thinks can't handle the Dog at the position. That wouldn't make much sense.
 

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Lets see, he has never done pass coverage before, his own words... He was recruited as a DE/CAT... This is essentially the same as putting Aaron Lynch at the DOG position. There is more on my side than yours Bog...

I am not saying Romeo is a bad player, but telling a cat to go "woof" simply doesnt work.

So it is written, so it is because I say so, and Romeo himself is my supporting cast.

You seem to really be harping on this.. It is on no way "essentially" putting Aaron Lynch at DOG, he showed up at ND 6-6 270, a pure pass rushers measurements.

Okwara is shorter, lighter and athletically capable of performing the DOG responsibilities. Im sure the coaches believe he is mentally capable of catching on as well. As Cam McDaniel's situation has proved, nothing is final and maybe the coaches are just giving this kid all the workload he can handle.

You don't know, you're not blowing the whistle every day.
 

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Lets see, he has never done pass coverage before, his own words... He was recruited as a DE/CAT... This is essentially the same as putting Aaron Lynch at the DOG position. There is more on my side than yours Bog...

I am not saying Romeo is a bad player, but telling a cat to go "woof" simply doesnt work.

So it is written, so it is because I say so, and Romeo himself is my supporting cast.

The coaches think otherwise. Are you saying you know the players better than than the coaches do? I find that one hard to believe.
 

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Defining what a 17 yr old is capable of with our coaching staff is speculative at best. I am just thankful he is Irish and will be causing havoc for Michigan and USC etc....I am just so impressed with our recruiting! Go Irish!
 

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I've been as big a supporter of everything the Staff does as anyone as far as I can tell, and certainly plenty humble enough to say I know squat compared to Diaco. But that doesn't stop one from wondering how such a seemingly incongruous move of Romeo to DOG has taken place.

I call the move incongruous in the dictionary definition that it does not fit with anything that we previously knew about Romeo [previous playing position; obvious overpowering strength suited to mixing it up in the meathouse; youth seeming to portend further growth out of linebacker size entirely....]. But it has happened. So why?

One piece of this must be that Diaco knew all along that this year he had only two dogs. Prince Shembo isn't. Kendall Moore apparently isn't. Anthony Rabasa apparently isn't, although I'd be more comfortable seeing him try. Diaco doesn't want to move Fox, or try Grace. Down goes Spond. Diaco now is forced to do something that he hoped he didn't have to do: "invent" another DOG and wait it out until Jaylon [and Mattingly?] show up and we're "healed".

How does he invent a DOG? Well, he has two theories. He can invent a modern "Space Age DOG", slim and fast and great coverage, or he can invent a young version of Prince Shembo and see if the new version can cover space better. Therefore: a Greyhound or a Mastiff. He decides to invent one of each, and keeping his fingers crossed, see how it goes.

WHO to re-invent? Greyhound: Shumate? Baratti? Badger? I thought it would be Baratti, but Diaco knows better; it's Prosise.

Mastiff: Grace? Rabasa? I thought it might be Fox to Dog and Grace to Will, but Diaco's smarter and doesn't want to put two starters [Councell and Fox] at one position. [I'm irrationally just trying to get Grace on the field]. So, he pulls Okwara out of the hat..... Boggle.....

The one thing that both Okwara and Prosise have in common is that they are great athletes who have impressed the Staff with that athleticism. The other thing that they SEEM to have in common is that there was no room anywhere this year for them to play. When I add that up, Prosise makes sense [because I am notorious for honoring speed over bulk]. But Romeo.... I still can't quite get it. Diaco MUST know what he's doing. But I wonder if it isn't just the only thing that he CAN do under the bad injury circumstance, rather than what he'd prefer to do.
 

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Mike, I share your apparent confusion on this. If I had to take a stab at Diaco's thought process on this, I would guess that he thinks that by moving Prosise and Okwara to this spot, if he has to use one of them he can use whichever one is better suited for a particular situation (Prosise on obvious pass downs; Okwara on obvious run downs; and maybe a more "sub" defense on neutral downs). And maybe he thinks, best case scenario, they want to preserve a year for Romeo anyway, and if they are lucky enough not to need him then teaching him the DOG this year is he can at least work on some other skills during practice that will help him be a more well-rounded and versatile (and therefore valuable) player moving forward.
 

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Just go to campus and saw him , DAMN is he big. On a side note I ran into Ishaq and i don't think I've ever seen him this happy, he looks like a completely different guy in terms of attitude.
 

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The coaches think otherwise. Are you saying you know the players better than than the coaches do? I find that one hard to believe.

I am just saying what we ALL were thinking when we were recruiting this kid. This guy was recruited as a pass rushing athletic monster because that is what he did in high school. But if you really want me to respond to this statement then I will: "The coaches also said he had two BCS caliber QBs last year." They make mistakes. I am simply questioning why move Romeo from his bread and butter to a position he has never played that focus on skills he is not known for.

My thought is that they are trying out different people at DOG and seeing who sticks. Remember we have two DOGs coming in next year, one of them is a top 5 player in the entire country (screw ESPN rankings). I dont see Romeo staying at DOG after this season regardless of what happens this year.
 
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Contrary to what is popular belief, if you look through the old footage, Kelly points out that Okwara can cover. This was so odd at the time that it was memorable. There were (a few) plays of him in coverage in his highschool tape. I don't believe it was his basic job, or anywhere near as spohisticated as he needs do today, but he did it and the ND coaching staff identified him for it.
 
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