BK: Field Turf is Coming

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Bobias said:
That actually sounds really great. It would be beyond expensive but incredibly cool. Plus it could help with more acurate measurements since they could have the first down marker already on the field like we see it on tv. There are soo many options available for this type of technology
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Probably what it will be like if you were born in the year 3001. Ah, immortality.
 
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You don't understand Notre Dame one bit. What you have to understand is (a) how much power the Board of Trustees has, and (b) how image and money are the two overriding elements of their value system. There is no old guard/new guard dichotomy at Notre Dame. That's some fiction you created in your mind, probably based on your opposition to NDNation, a friggin football forum.
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I agree with everything you say, except the old and new guard thing.

And my world view is entirely a figment of my imagination.

So is yours. And so is the next guys.

Here is how the guard thing works. Willingham was a certain former Secretary of State's choice. The old guard was then very pro-that admin in nature. The board answers on many issues to the court of public opinion. And that is exactly how it works.
 
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irishfanjho15 said:
Haha. I think the same, I just was saying that in the year 3001 and no one will even remotely remember the days of playing football on grass.
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It looks like Michigan State has made some changes to their stadium. Some of you might think this is an upgrade, others will think it is an eyesore. Personally, I don't like the looks of this jumbotron but I would like to see one at ND eventually.

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I remember Ara's teams quite well, so that should tell you how old I am. I've been going to games since 1973. I'm still in favor of keeping the grass. Turf offers no advantage to either team. I stand and yell as much as possible, but we do have too many fans that don't "get into the game" the way we would like them to. I wouldn't mind seeing a jumotron. I think it would help get the fans more vocal and create more of a home field advantage. 80,000 fans booing a blown call would have to make the ref think about evening things up.
 
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Irish#1 said:
I remember Ara's teams quite well, so that should tell you how old I am. I've been going to games since 1973. I'm still in favor of keeping the grass. Turf offers no advantage to either team. I stand and yell as much as possible, but we do have too many fans that don't "get into the game" the way we would like them to. I wouldn't mind seeing a jumotron. I think it would help get the fans more vocal and create more of a home field advantage. 80,000 fans booing a blown call would have to make the ref think about evening things up.
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Aside from, you know, not getting torn up if it rains.

And lowering the risk of injury.

And after the installation cost, lowering the operating costs of the stadium.
 
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Irish Houstonian said:
This was interesting on everydayshouldbesaturday.com:

AND FIELD TURF RUINS NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL FOREVER. We talked a bit about FieldTurf coming to Notre Dame on Twitter, but to reiterate a really obvious series of points:


•The problem with the ND in-game experience is not a Jumbotron, or the lack of one, or the wooden seats, or the grass. It is the ethos of sad asses planted to seats shushing anyone who shows enthusiasm.

•If you want this to be your thing, and to keep Notre Dame as the Westminster Dog Show of football environments, that's fine. That's your thing. It will be the opposite of fun, and a drudge to watch, and it will be tradition because tradition because tradition. You go ahead and do that.

•But if that is not what you want--and there are Notre Dame fans who do not want this, and would like to have a good time at games without things devolving to utter, LSU-ish anarchy--then you need to do a few things.

•You need to stand up. You need to stop telling others to sit down. You need to yell. You need to act like you care without being the repressed Midwestern uncle of in-stadium fanbases. You see what the student section is doing? DO THAT. Okay, don't attempt pushups on top of the extended hands of your friends, because that's a great way to dislocate a middle-aged shoulder. But the other stuff, yeah: DO THAT.

•Those who don't like it can go to the luxury boxes, where you can feel really great about all the money you've made via superior virtue, and most definitely not because of your social connections purchased through a degree. You go up there, and let the wolves have their fun in the stands.

•It is a football game. It is not Death of a Salesman in pads.

•Oh, and fire every usher in the place. They're worthless pocket fascists who wear--we are not kidding--UNIFORMS. Point and laugh at them until they leave if firing is too complex.
If you want a real environment, do all that. If you want the mausoleum, just keep on doing you, Notre Dame. We could couldn't care less, since there are no fewer than fifty or sixty college football stadiums we would rather see a game at. Boise has a better atmosphere than South Bend once the whistle starts, even if you get kicked out in the first quarter for drinking in the stands. Which we did. On a work assignment. Go Broncos.

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This is the reason me and my wife always try to sit by the student sections. I'm not going to drop $150 on a pair of tickets just to sit down and watch. We can do that at home. I come here for the atmosphere of game day not to listen to some goody two shoe who isn't even watching the game tell me to shut up and sit down. Yes all the ushers need to be fired. There should be an age limit on being an usher like 40
 
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A little something I haven't seen mentioned or discussed – how often do the Irish play on natural turf in away and neutral site games? Would it not be advantageous to the team to have experience playing on it when that happens?

Any and all "speed advantage" would be lost when playing on grass when all practices and home games are played on fake turf. An inability to easily adapt to one or the other might present a problem. Lack of time played on grass could be a detriment.

Practice on turf is preparation for those fields with turf installed, but no home play on grass is no preparation at all. As far as I've read, there are mixed results as to the relative safety when playing on grass or turf.

Why the stampede to plastic?
 
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A little something I haven't seen mentioned or discussed – how often do the Irish play on natural turf in away and neutral site games? Would it not be advantageous to the team to have experience playing on it when that happens?

Any and all "speed advantage" would be lost when playing on grass when all practices and home games are played on fake turf. An inability to easily adapt to one or the other might present a problem. Lack of time played on grass could be a detriment.

Practice on turf is preparation for those fields with turf installed, but no home play on grass is no preparation at all. As far as I've read, there are mixed results as to the relative safety when playing on grass or turf.

Why the stampede to plastic?
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The only game I saw that ND was at a disadvantage was last year's Stanford game. They were slower, and they were used to it. It gave them an incredible advantage. That field was a disgrace.
 
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dshans said:
A little something I haven't seen mentioned or discussed – how often do the Irish play on natural turf in away and neutral site games? Would it not be advantageous to the team to have experience playing on it when that happens?

Any and all "speed advantage" would be lost when playing on grass when all practices and home games are played on fake turf. An inability to easily adapt to one or the other might present a problem. Lack of time played on grass could be a detriment.

Practice on turf is preparation for those fields with turf installed, but no home play on grass is no preparation at all. As far as I've read, there are mixed results as to the relative safety when playing on grass or turf.

Why the stampede to plastic?
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Until we start going undefeated at home road games should not be an excuse.
 
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Aside from, you know, not getting torn up if it rains.

And lowering the risk of injury.

And after the installation cost, lowering the operating costs of the stadium.
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I was speaking strictly on the speed advantage. I would assume maintaining artifical turf would be cheaper.
 
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This is an honest question...

BK mentioned during a press conference that some of the players are in 'awe' when they step into the Stadium on Saturday and it takes away some of the home field advantage. Having turf would allow the team to practice inside the stadium to maybe rid some of the awe factor.

My question, what kind of damage would 1 practice a week inside the stadium do? It seems like ND would have the best crew and equipment on hand to take care of the field.

The team has 6 home games and only two are back-to-back. It seems reasonable for them to practice there once a week and leave plenty of time for the grounds crew to handle their business.

Curious what you guys think.
 
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IndyIrishFan1 said:
This is an honest question...

BK mentioned during a press conference that some of the players are in 'awe' when they step into the Stadium on Saturday and it takes away some of the home field advantage. Having turf would allow the team to practice inside the stadium to maybe rid some of the awe factor.

My question, what kind of damage would 1 practice a week inside the stadium do? It seems like ND would have the best crew and equipment on hand to take care of the field.

The team has 6 home games and only two are back-to-back. It seems reasonable for them to practice there once a week and leave plenty of time for the grounds crew to handle their business.

Curious what you guys think.
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Maybe use the plastic on the field approach and make grandma proud.

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The field turns brown and gets a bit sloppy late in the year even with the grounds crew handling their business, so I don't think it makes sense to practice on the grass once a week and make the job even harder
 
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Field turf installed on outside areas of field where players stand. Playing surface still grass.

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Jack Swarbrick on FieldTurf: "We replace the field on a 5-year cycle. We'll be replacing it after this year. I haven't made a decision."

‏@DavidMcCoyWSBT
Swarbrick says a decision about field turf at ND Stadium will be made after this season. Trying to learn more about Lambeau's combo version
 
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GoldenIsThyFame said:
@ChiTribHamilton
Jack Swarbrick on FieldTurf: "We replace the field on a 5-year cycle. We'll be replacing it after this year. I haven't made a decision."

‏@DavidMcCoyWSBT
Swarbrick says a decision about field turf at ND Stadium will be made after this season. Trying to learn more about Lambeau's combo version
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Atleast he is keeping an open mind about the choices he has.
 
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Idk... I didn't remember the contrast like that either, but apparently we've had it before. However, it doesn't always look like that, as evidenced by the pictures if you do a quick google search of "Notre Dame Stadium".

I would say that the instagram effect also contributes to the greater contrast.
 
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