'11 CA RB Amir Carlisle (Notre Dame Football Player)

[NDinFL]

I've been pondering that question myself? It would be tough to take away something that a recruit worked hard to get, but unlike "some younger" peoples (old man point of view here) you have to take a step back and look at the big picture. What is best for him as a student/athlete not an athlete/student and what is best for the team. With the way the game has evolved in a couple years he could have one huge season and go pro and still leave early for the NFL.

I would rather your scenario play out with young Amir.

It would stretch the length of our "stable" of good RB's by maybe 2 years...

 

[Emcee77]

I definitely don't want him to blow a year of eligibility if he is less than 100% till deep into the season ... Unless we are in a situation where we are having a great year and the coaches feel they need him to make a BCS run. Ideally he gets healthy soon, or redshirts, or comes in late season and leads us to a BCS title. That would be ideal.

 

[PraetorianND]

I definitely don't want him to blow a year of eligibility if he is less than 100% till deep into the season ... Unless we are in a situation where we are having a great year and the coaches feel they need him to make a BCS run. Ideally he gets healthy soon, or redshirts, or comes in late season and leads us to a BCS title. That would be ideal.

Don't sleep on Amir. he was a solid back for USC and has tons of upside. I can seem him having a solid season. His injury isn't serious enough to keep him out this year either. As far as we know he has no ligament damage and thus a much shorter recovery.

I predict he makes a big impact in our running game and gives us a great 1 2 punch with him and Wood. Our depth at RB is insane and I think we quickly forget that we have the pieces in place to have a very productive offense.

Our OL + RB situation is such that we should have a 100 yard rusher every game... if not two. A step up from last year.

 

[PraetorianND]

I have to agree to disagree, Amir would have to be a absolute beast to take away reps from Wood and Riddick. I could even entertain the idea that it would be difficult for him to take carries away from Atkinson at this point. You are suggesting a player taking away snaps from other guys that hasn't even ran one play from our playbook yet.

I'm predicting between 300 and 600 yards on the season. He may even catch some balls out of the backfield like at USC too.

 

[NDPhilly]

In that interview today with Jack Nolen Kelly mentioned 3 Rbs; Wood, Riddick, and Atkinson nut also said we will see some young guys. Whether or not that means Carlisle or Mahone idk.

 

[PraetorianND]

In that interview today with Jack Nolen Kelly mentioned 3 Rbs; Wood, Riddick, and Atkinson nut also said we will see some young guys. Whether or not that means Carlisle or Mahone idk.

You're right.. I forgot about that. In any event our RB depth is amazing. I'm happy with what we have in the stables.

 

[NDdomer2]

Let's not forget he was practically the starter at USC by end of season as a true frosh.

I think Amir is our "ace up the sleeve" if you will. Lots of talent and no film of him in OUR offense. Also holds some big info on the way things work on the dark side. I don't mean on play calls and what not but he was in the film room and listened to the way the coaching staff wanted to attack our defense.

I am sure kiffy cakes is aware of this too but he isn't going to change his offense either. My guess is his ego is big enough to think, "it doesn't matter what they know."

 

[Whiskeyjack]

In that interview today with Jack Nolen Kelly mentioned 3 Rbs; Wood, Riddick, and Atkinson nut also said we will see some young guys. Whether or not that means Carlisle or Mahone idk.

My guess is that any reps Carlisle sees this season will be at Z WR. Russell moves to CB and Carlisle surpasses Toma as he gets back to 100% later in the season (Neal being the #1).

 

[phgreek]

...does anyone else have visions of a Hockey-like line change with skill guys this year...might even include QB...If I thought we could generate any consistency...I'd be all for it...could you imagine DCs trying to prepare for us...hehehehe.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You think?

 

[NDinL.A.]

Let's not forget he was practically the starter at USC by end of season as a true frosh.

Sorry, but that's not even close to being true. By the end of the year, "Moody" McNeal was the clear-cut starter. I mean, it wasn't even close. He ran for over 1000 yds and almost 7 yds a carry.

Meanwhile, Carlisle didn't even have a rushing attempt the last 2 games.

 

[woolybug25]

Sorry, but that's not even close to being true. By the end of the year, "Moody" McNeal was the clear-cut starter. I mean, it wasn't even close. He ran for over 1000 yds and almost 7 yds a carry.

Meanwhile, Carlisle didn't even have a rushing attempt the last 2 games.

Didn't Amir start two games in a row and then get hurt. Hence the no attempts in the last 2 games?

I don't really remember how that all went down.

 

[NDdomer2]

Didn't Amir start two games in a row and then get hurt. Hence the no attempts in the last 2 games?

I don't really remember how that all went down.

Yes he did start against Colorado then against Washington. Marc Tyler then returned from injury and Amir was still ailing from an ankle injury that hampered him all season.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

How about the fact that Kelly really liked his "I am the guy" attitude, with the stacked position. He is confident, and he works incredibly hard. First time I heard Kelly so confident of contribution with an injured player, except for maybe Teo last fall.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Didn't Amir start two games in a row and then get hurt. Hence the no attempts in the last 2 games?

I don't really remember how that all went down.

He played against Oregon, but didn't have any attempts (he did catch a pass and was in on other plays). I don't remember what happened against UCLA. The point was, he wasn't 'practically the starter' by the end of the season, as the other poster said. Not even close. McNeal wrestled that position away long before that.

 

[ab2cmiller]

From Bill Kings interview with Kelly:

Ankle is healed
There is an issue of some nerve impingement
Making progress it's just a matter of time
After doing doing a day of two practices, they have been shutting him down to make sure he feels good and he's been coming back pretty good the next day.
Definitely expects him to play, but didn't state when he thinks he would be available.

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

My heart sank when I saw this thread had been updated. Don't scare me like that.

 

[BGIF]

He shouldn't be needed for either Navy or Purdue. It'd be nice to have him get some game work in but he's not a freshman. He's played in games against Div 1 competition. He doesn't need to adjust to the speed of play nor size and technique of the players. He's had 6 months to study the playbook and watch film. Blitz protection via audible calls shouldn't require a mental adjustment for him, just an automatic reaction.

Besides keeping him out of the first few games give UM or MSU only USC film to study, if they can get it. They'd have nothing on his role in a Kelly offense to go by.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

My opinion:

I don't think there will be all of this shuffling like some of you are suggesting. Let's face it, the past coaching staffs did a terrible job at building depth. Sure they had some heralded recruits at most positions, but no one behind them pushing them to get better. BK's staff recruits multiple players for positions. This breeds competition. The best man plays. Just because our third or fourth option at RB is capable of playing at a high level, doesn't mean he should take reps away from 1a and 1b, right? (Note: I'm not suggesting Amir is the true fourth option. That was just an example) The depth chart will work itself out and the best players will play. Again, just my opinion on how things will shake out. It's a groovy feeling having this much depth! I'd much rather be having this discussion.

 

[CHIDomer9]

I think if ND gets to a point the in the season where none of the other RBs are injured, they should seriously consider not playing Carlisle in 2012. Along with GAIII, he becomes the feature back in 2013.

 

[anarin]

I think if ND gets to a point the in the season where none of the other RBs are injured, they should seriously consider not playing Carlisle in 2012. Along with GAIII, he becomes the feature back in 2013.

No way do they keep him off the field.

 

[BGIF]

My opinion:

I don't think there will be all of this shuffling like some of you are suggesting. Let's face it, the past coaching staffs did a terrible job at building depth. Sure they had some heralded recruits at most positions, but no one behind them pushing them to get better. BK's staff recruits multiple players for positions. This breeds competition. The best man plays. Just because our third or fourth option at RB is capable of playing at a high level, doesn't mean he should take reps away from 1a and 1b, right? (Note: I'm not suggesting Amir is the true fourth option. That was just an example) The depth chart will work itself out and the best players will play. Again, just my opinion on how things will shake out. It's a groovy feeling having this much depth! I'd much rather be having this discussion.

"The best man plays" Wow, you didn't read any QB threads on this board last year or this year, did ya? Don't you know Kelly ONLY plays Seniors. And when he yanks seniors he only plays players he favors even if they're only 19 year old sophomores.

I agree with you but it places you in the minority around here.

 

[arrowryan]

No way do they keep him off the field.

+1

He is a serious threat in the kicking game, he can take it to the house at any time. No way you keep him off the field

 

[BleedBlueGold]

"The best man plays" Wow, you didn't read any QB threads on this board last year or this year, did ya? Don't you know Kelly ONLY plays Seniors. And when he yanks seniors he only plays players he favors even if they're only 19 year old sophomores.

I agree with you but it places you in the minority around here.

I haven't been around this board long enough to have a clue what you meant by that post. Are you just referring to the anti-BK posters?

I know "the best man plays" is coach speak. Perhaps there's better phrasing for my point I was trying to make. Bottom line, I just don't understand why some people think we need to play every RB on the roster just because the depth and talent is there.

Excuse my ignorance.

 

[ErieIrish13]

+1

He is a serious threat in the kicking game, he can take it to the house at any time. No way you keep him off the field

I don't belive he was talking about redshirting George. I believe he meant that Amir and George are the 2 main backs next year. Only a fool would bench GA3 (And Kelly isn't a fool)

 

[NDhoosier]

"The best man plays" Wow, you didn't read any QB threads on this board last year or this year, did ya? Don't you know Kelly ONLY plays Seniors. And when he yanks seniors he only plays players he favors even if they're only 19 year old sophomores.

I agree with you but it places you in the minority around here.

I dont know what thread you are reading here, sounds like you have visited NDnation a few too many times.

 

[Kanye West]

If the 3 RBs stay healthy i would let him heal and redshirt him. He's great but there's no reason to waste a year of him if he won't see major reps.

 

[Rhode Irish]

"The best man plays" Wow, you didn't read any QB threads on this board last year or this year, did ya? Don't you know Kelly ONLY plays Seniors. And when he yanks seniors he only plays players he favors even if they're only 19 year old sophomores.

I agree with you but it places you in the minority around here.

With all due respect, what are you talking about?

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

BK will shuffle in three quality backs...a nightmare for our opponents.

 

[scUM Hater]

I know that you know that I know that you know. that should clear it up.