Who's Next? - 2021 Edition

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Looking at the LSU boards, Gee is getting processed out and now he doesn't have a spot at Clemson either.

And for the people talking about the ratings and rankings, his rating has dropped the last three times it changed and that's with him having Senior year film.

 

[Luckylucci]

Offer list certainly isn’t that of a 3 star

This was his top 10. Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn State, and USC. His final two were LSU and Clemson.

He was a big time recruit back then when we didn’t get him and he’s a big time recruit now when we could potentially land him.

 

[Irish Man3]

Looking at the LSU boards, Gee is getting processed out and now he doesn't have a spot at Clemson either.

And for the people talking about the ratings and rankings, his rating has dropped the last three times it changed and that's with him having Senior year film.

You mean a fan base is claiming "we didn't want him anyway" when a decommit could be on the horizon? That's almost never happened before...

Ratings this year are a total crap shoot and anyone not trying to sell subscriptions will tell you that.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

You mean a fan base is claiming "we didn't want him anyway" when a decommit could be on the horizon? That's almost never happened before...

Ratings this year are a total crap shoot and anyone not trying to sell subscriptions will tell you that.

No, they've been talking about probably processing him for more than a month already. Basically since Matthew Langlois committed. That put them at four safeties in the class. Some were saying instead they should keep him and move him to linebacker.

 

[phillyirish]

He is a 4 star on rivals, and #391 overall on 247 when they stop giving out the 4th star at 362. In realty, 250-400 ranked prospects are all in the same league.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I am thrilled. This is the hybrid player we should all covet. He will be able to play all over the field...S, Nickel or even Rover. He is Drue Tranquil with better size and athleticism. I am really happy with this

 

[tussin]

Looking at the LSU boards, Gee is getting processed out and now he doesn't have a spot at Clemson either.

And for the people talking about the ratings and rankings, his rating has dropped the last three times it changed and that's with him having Senior year film.

What does it mean to get processed out? Why would LSU and/or Clemson not want him given the opinions expressed here? Seems like a player any program would want.

 

[ThePiombino]

What does it mean to get processed out? Why would LSU and/or Clemson not want him given the opinions expressed here? Seems like a player any program would want.

Maybe the opinions expressed here are overly optimistic. Or maybe they're just happy with LSU and Clemson's table scraps.

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[Luckylucci]

I am thrilled. This is the hybrid player we should all covet. He will be able to play all over the field...S, Nickel or even Rover. He is Drue Tranquil with better size and athleticism. I am really happy with this

Yea, would be a great addition for any DC that likes to play hybrid players and/or 5 DB base systems. Similar to the whole DB class.

Tucker and Johnson have legit speed for CB. Barnes, Riley, Walters, and Gee offer a great combination of length, size, and physicality.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Maybe the opinions expressed here are overly optimistic. Or maybe they're just happy with LSU and Clemson's table scraps.

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I think you need a nice pour of your favorite whiskey and take the night away. Your posts have been downright unbearable today. We all are aware of the RB issues and the class isn't headlined by 4 5*'s. But neither is the team that is going to take on Clemson on Saturday. Our program is based on trench play and this class continues that. We always say how elite teams have better athletes. Gee is an athlete, without a clear position. So was JOK. Ade is a beast this year and he was an afterthought on signing day. The program isn't perfect, but it's top 10. I want the Natty too, but we also need to appreciate what we have.

 

[ThePiombino]

I think you need a nice pour of your favorite whiskey and take the night away. Your posts have been downright unbearable today. We all are aware of the RB issues and the class isn't headlined by 4 5*'s. But neither is the team that is going to take on Clemson on Saturday. Our program is based on trench play and this class continues that. We always say how elite teams have better athletes. Gee is an athlete, without a clear position. So was JOK. Ade is a beast this year and he was an afterthought on signing day. The program isn't perfect, but it's top 10. I want the Natty too, but we also need to appreciate what we have.

My main issue with Gee is referring to him as "big time". He might be a good prospect, as is the majority of the class. But he's not Fisher, Spindler, Buchner, Colzie, etc. They are "big time".

As for RB recruiting? It's a GD joke this year.

I'm well aware of this staff's ability to develope non "big time" recruits into "big time" players. Hopefully they can do the same here, but let's not kid ourselves - we missed our mark at safety this year.

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[NDMIA]

.9645 4* Ceyair Wright
.9514 4* Terrion Arnold
.9451 4* Avante Dickerson
.9368 4* Isaiah Johnson
.9338 4* Ishmael Ibraheem
.9039 4* Jardin Gilbert
.9000 4* Titus Mokiao-Atimalala
.8871 3* Khari Gee

Top Non-Signed DB's left.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I am thrilled. This is the hybrid player we should all covet. He will be able to play all over the field...S, Nickel or even Rover. He is Drue Tranquil with better size and athleticism. I am really happy with this

But does he have better knees?

 

[NDdomer2]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly says Notre Dame expects to sign two running backs and one more defensive back. <br><br>Irish already at 24 signees, which would push this to the biggest class in Brian Kelly’s tenure here.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1339327459293089795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Interesting in the difference from Kelly to Polian.

Kelly

Within this class, we expect to sign a couple more running backs and we expect to sign somebody that is going to help us in the back end of the defense as well.

Polian

There's possible additions here in the next 48 hours and there are possible additions at the February date. We are still fluid right now

 

[Luckylucci]

My main issue with Gee is referring to him as "big time". He might be a good prospect, as is the majority of the class. But he's not Fisher, Spindler, Buchner, Colzie, etc. They are "big time".

As for RB recruiting? It's a GD joke this year.

I'm well aware of this staff's ability to develope non "big time" recruits into "big time" players. Hopefully they can do the same here, but let's not kid ourselves - we missed our mark at safety this year.

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I’m sure you didn’t think Kyren or JOK were big time either. I get it, it’s easy and unoriginal to play follow the leader with the rating/recruiting sites. So be it. It’s just funny that some people refuse to think for themselves and then gripe about it online. Not to mention how flawed your logic is about LSU and Clemson’s leftovers. Yet, you don’t even realize it.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I agree running back recruiting was a miss this cycle we could very well end up with no one. We decided to go all in on Shipley knowing we were up against one of the best recruiting schools in the country. Then had to back track once he didn’t come. Should have offered many backs and tell everybody there’s only 1-2 spots so get in while you can.

 

[ThePiombino]

I&#146;m sure you didn&#146;t think Kyren or JOK were big time either. I get it, it&#146;s easy and unoriginal to play follow the leader with the rating/recruiting sites. So be it. It&#146;s just funny that some people refuse to think for themselves and then gripe about it online. Not to mention how flawed your logic is about LSU and Clemson&#146;s leftovers. Yet, you don&#146;t even realize it.

No, I didn't think they were "big time" when they signed, because they weren't yet. But I liked both their films, thought they were good prospects. They have both exceeded that much. Are you being purposely dense? I already acknowledged that we have a staff that has proven very capable of developing kids from good prospects to good players. Maybe he'll be the next JOK, I don't know. But to sit here and pretend that this kid is "big time" is a bit of a reach. He's not an immediate impact player and doesn't appear to be a plan-A for the staff. So sorry, he doesn't qualify as "big time" for me.

As for LSU and Clemson's scraps, is that not what he is? Likely processed at LSU, no room at the inn at Clemson. Tell yourself what you want. He may very well be the next coming someday, but right now he was expendable to those schools. Their scraps. Now if you want to tell me he was at the top of ND's board all along, I'll take it back and apologize. But I doubt it...

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[Irish#1]

I agree running back recruiting was a miss this cycle we could very well end up with no one. We decided to go all in on Shipley knowing we were up against one of the best recruiting schools in the country. Then had to back track once he didn’t come. Should have offered many backs and tell everybody there’s only 1-2 spots so get in while you can.

If you want to be in consideration for a NC, you have to go hard for a guy like Shipley and make him your main focus while still recruiting some lesser talent. I don't think you take the first 1 or 2 that want to commit until you know you aren't going to land the main guy you're chasing.

 

[ThePiombino]

If you want to be in consideration for a NC, you have to go hard for a guy like Shipley and make him your main focus while still recruiting some lesser talent. I don't think you take the first 1 or 2 that want to commit until you know you aren't going to land the main guy you're chasing.

Going all-in on a Carolina kid whose other main interest is Clemson seems less than prudent though, no? Not saying we shouldn't have swung for the fences. We should have. But to put all our eggs in a single basket was a terrible choice. It subsequently put us behind the 8-ball on a lot of other talent. We may very well still land a couple decent-to-good prospects this class, but that pool is a helluva lot more shallow than it should have been. I'm willing to bet the staff doesn't make that same mistake twice.

 

[stpeteirish]

Interesting in the difference from Kelly to Polian.

Kelly


Polian

I like Kelly's optimism here. He's basically telling his staff he expects them to land these guys.

He's also clearly telling us we'll fill those slots. If we don't get the four star guys we want we're taking 3 star guys someone else doesn't want.

Get the right guys and this class is bordering on excellent.No real gaps. Don't and its a good class with a lot more guys you need to develop than the "elite" teams' classes do.

 

[arahop]

Interesting in the difference from Kelly to Polian.

Kelly


Polian

Take them all and figure out roster later.

 

[Rack Em]

Going all-in on a Carolina kid whose other main interest is Clemson seems less than prudent though, no? Not saying we shouldn't have swung for the fences. We should have. But to put all our eggs in a single basket was a terrible choice. It subsequently put us behind the 8-ball on a lot of other talent. We may very well still land a couple decent-to-good prospects this class, but that pool is a helluva lot more shallow than it should have been. I'm willing to bet the staff doesn't make that same mistake twice.

Name a 5 star recruit (ever) that wasn’t considering the in-state school or the adjacent state-school powerhouse. That never happens. Ever.

If Kelly and Polian lick their fingers and test the wind on every recruit who is considering the in state school, then they’re going to get MAC level classes. Honestly, what do you want them to do? Go all in on every 5 star recruit in Indiana each year?!?

If Fr. Sorin hadn’t set up shop on the IN-MI border and had kept walking his frozen ass to Cali, we wouldn’t be having this fucking conversation. We’d be a football powerhouse that Alabama couldn’t even dream of in the current football landscape. But he didn’t and we have to recruit accordingly.

 

[ThePiombino]

Name a 5 star recruit (ever) that wasn’t considering the in-state school or the adjacent state-school powerhouse. That never happens. Ever.

If Kelly and Polian lick their fingers and test the wind on every recruit who is considering the in state school, then they’re going to get MAC level classes. Honestly, what do you want them to do? Go all in on every 5 star recruit in Indiana each year?!?

If Fr. Sorin hadn’t set up shop on the IN-MI border and had kept walking his frozen ass to Cali, we wouldn’t be having this fucking conversation. We’d be a football powerhouse that Alabama couldn’t even dream of in the current football landscape. But he didn’t and we have to recruit accordingly.

I don't really understand your point, but I feel like you're also not understanding mine. I'm not saying we shouldn't go after kids like Shipley. On the contrary, I said swing for the fences - his talent is the type that nudges teams from "very good" to "elite". However, what we shouldn't do is make him (or anyone) 99+% of our recruiting focus and effort at the position. We can make him our primary focus without neglecting the field. We literally do it all the time at every other position -- that's how recruiting generally works. Not sure why they took this approach this time. Whatever the reason may be, it backfired.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Does anyone know anything regarding Gee other than potential interest? I mean, anything he is reported to be saying or just wishful thinking at this point?

 

[BobbyMac]

Does anyone know anything regarding Gee other than potential interest? I mean, anything he is reported to be saying or just wishful thinking at this point?

LSU analysts are saying him and LSU parted ways and mentioned ND as a landing spot. Supposedly, his Clemson spot is filled too.

 

[ThePiombino]

I wonder if this is one of those "strike while the iron is hot" situations where unless we get his signature during this ESD period, we'll likely not land him?

 

[NDdomer2]

Take them all and figure out roster later.

my post wasnt really about taking/not taking.

Kelly saying its expected and Polian saying its possible was the interesting aspect to me.

You would think Kelly wouldnt mention it unless he felt supremely confident. However, Polian didnt seem to feel the same confidence.

I, for one, am happy that we appear to be just "going for it" this year.

 

[IrishRazor82]

If I recall, Shipley was set to make a 2nd ND visit around March that got cancelled to COVID. If that visit happens as planned I bet we land him, so I didn't have a problem going all in on him.

COVID hurt everyone, but we had a massive haul of recruits coming one of those months and it got cancelled for all.

 

[longliveautrydenson]

If I recall, Shipley was set to make a 2nd ND visit around March that got cancelled to COVID. If that visit happens as planned I bet we land him, so I didn't have a problem going all in on him.

COVID hurt everyone, but we had a massive haul of recruits coming one of those months and it got cancelled for all.

I think there are certain guys we missed on due to covid, but Shipley wasn’t one of them. Dabo gave the Shipleys the ole televangelist spiel and they fell for it.

 

[NDdomer2]

If I recall, Shipley was set to make a 2nd ND visit around March that got cancelled to COVID. If that visit happens as planned I bet we land him, so I didn't have a problem going all in on him.

COVID hurt everyone, but we had a massive haul of recruits coming one of those months and it got cancelled for all.

I think there are certain guys we missed on due to covid, but Shipley wasn’t one of them. Dabo gave the Shipleys the ole televangelist spiel and they fell for it.

Shipleys comments post Clemson commitment didnt really sound like ND had a chance, extra visit or not.