Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[pumpdog20]

What we need is a HC who is willing to adjust and adapt. BK appears to be too stubborn right now, and the upcoming hot coaches all appear to be flexible.

 

[irishff1014]

I don't understand why people don't think we can get Tom Herman.

The way we get him is by being the first to offer and ponying up. Notre Dame is a top 5 job no matter what people say and coaches know it.

IMO it isn't a top 5 job. If things go the way they are going right now ND behind USC and LSU openings.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Herman is this go-round's version of Urban Meyer...except that there was never any tangible evidence to suggest TH would even be remotely interested in coming to ND (unlike UM) other than ND fans' delusions of grandeur.

The point is that you still make the call, and offer him more than anyone else. Make him interested.

 

[Irishcop]

Is Art Briles looking for a job???????? Just kidding, but seriously his offense is killer.

 

[kmoose]

Speaking of Michigan DCs. What's Greg Mattison up to these days? Serious question. I just don't see how BVG can ride out the season at this point.

Greg Mattison Bio - Michigan Football - MGoBlue.com

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

One guy I would like to see is Ken Niumatalolo. Always does more with a lot less. Would be great to see what he could do with some athletes. Not sure he would leave the academy and I don't think the triple option could come with him, but I have always liked his style.

 

[BobbyMac]

Eighteen years as a HC prior to ND.
Three head coaching stops prior to ND.
Two Division II National Championships.
Two undefeated regular seasons.

Yeah, I'd say that's a better resume than Herman has to date.

Not saying that Herman isn't a good coach, but there are many examples of coaches who appear to be the next up and coming coaching genius only to crash and burn on a bigger stage.

You missed Girl's Softball which made 4. No italics.

Here in lies BK's problem, he has only been a head coach of meaningless programs besides Cincy but even that does him little good because he was never out on the road as a young assistant recruiting. He never cross pollinated. He never earned his wings. Tom Herman knows every coach and guidance counselor in the state of Texas after 20 years of recruiting the state.

There's a path the vast majority of coaches take. It's a recipe that works and can't be duplicated without the time on the street. I read a story about Earl Bruce firing his entire staff which included a yound DB coach named Nick Saban and they knew they fvcked up because Saban was the best recruiter and talent evaluator.

IMO it isn't a top 5 job. If things go the way they are going right now ND behind USC and LSU openings.

It's not in YOUR eyes. It's not in a lot of coaches eyes but it's a Top 1-2-3 dream job for a lot of other coaches. It only takes one guy to fill the seat and those seats are filled when the music stops.

I can promise you this, I know of a $1M+ P5 co-ordinator that would apply for the job tomorrow because it's his dream job but he'd never get it because ND will only hire HC's... so I doubt he'd even interview for it.

 

[calvegas04]

One guy I would like to see is Ken Niumatalolo. Always does more with a lot less. Would be great to see what he could do with some athletes. Not sure he would leave the academy and I don't think the triple option could come with him, but I have always liked his style.

no thank you, turn ND into a gimmicky offense

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

no thank you, turn ND into a gimmicky offense

You say gimmicky, I say best suited to the personnel he has. I doubt he would run the triple option anywhere but where he is now.

 

[irishff1014]

You missed Girl's Softball which made 4. No italics.

Here in lies BK's problem, he has only been a head coach of meaningless programs besides Cincy but even that does him little good because he was never out on the road as a young assistant recruiting. He never cross pollinated. He never earned his wings. Tom Herman knows every coach and guidance counselor in the state of Texas after 20 years of recruiting the state.

There's a path the vast majority of coaches take. It's a recipe that works and can't be duplicated without the time on the street. I read a story about Earl Bruce firing his entire staff which included a yound DB coach named Nick Saban and they knew they fvcked up because Saban was the best recruiter and talent evaluator.



It's not in YOUR eyes. It's not in a lot of coaches eyes but it's a Top 1-2-3 dream job for a lot of other coaches. It only takes one guy to fill the seat and those seats are filled when the music stops.

I can promise you this, I know of a $1M+ P5 co-ordinator that would apply for the job tomorrow because it's his dream job but he'd never get it because ND will only hire HC's... so I doubt he'd even interview for it.

I would love to see a list that would be interested in coach at ND to see what the quality is.

 

[kmoose]

Bill Cowher is only 59, and has been out of coaching long enough now that maybe he has forgotten how miserable a life it is?

 

[Meatloaf]

Wonder if Bill O'Brien would be interested?

 

[calvegas04]

Wonder if Bill O'Brien would be interested?

I doubt it, he is doing good where he is

 

[Ricochet]

As good as the ND job is, it's not for everyone and the fact is that it's a Univerity that actually cares about education is a big turn off for many despite what most coaches say publicly.

I remember hearing maybe 5 years ago about how disadvantaged ND and Stanford are when it comes getting top talent as in Top 300 talent. It was said in most years about half of those 300 top prospect could get admitted to those schools and in some years it's as bad as only being able to get about a third of the Top 300.

So from the get go they are already at a disadvantage, then of those prospects there plenty who just aren't fits because of the systen that ND runs, because of location, culture etc. etc..

What I'm getting at is that it is significantly harder at ND because the pool of talent is vastly smaller, let alone location/weather, Alumni pressure and history.

There is a reason why Urban chose UF over ND years ago. If he won at ND like the way he did at UF and tOSU he would've been an even bigger legend but he knew that was unlikely to happen in South Bend because he knew how much harder it would be to get truly elite talent regularly because of the restrictions of actually having to recruit student athletes rather than athlete students.

I just don't see a Tom Herman coming to ND because of what I said above and even more so when huge jobs like LSU and USC could soon have an opening.

 

[blackirish]

John Gruden, and I'm serious.

Good luck with that and I'm serious also too !

 

[luckoftheirish11]

I believe Kelly will be staying, just my opinion, however-

HC
1) Venables
2) Whittingham
3) Peterson
4) Saban -- if he leave Bama and took Nd to the promised land he would've the unquestionable greatest of all time, and what more does he have to prove at Alabama?

DC
1) Aranda
2) Miles
3) Pelini
4) Mason

 

[blackirish]

You say gimmicky, I say best suited to the personnel he has. I doubt he would run the triple option anywhere but where he is now.

and with that being said he seems to get the most out of the players that he has with the triple option and that offense has run up a ton of yardage on damn'er EVERYBODY!!!!!. I believe he could be even more creative with better athletes that we have here.

 

[kmoose]

and with that being said he seems to get the most out of the players that he has with the triple option and that offense has run up a ton of yardage on damn'er EVERYBODY!!!!!. I believe he could be even more creative with better athletes that we have here.

He would be missing the most important thing for the triple option, anywhere else but one of the Service Academies; complete, unadulterated discipline. The triple option requires HUGE amounts of discipline. Discipline that modern day practice limits don't allow you to fully develop during the hours you have the kids. At the academies, sports practices are often the EASY part of their day. Every waking minute is designed to keep those kids focused in the same manner that option requires. So it becomes second nature to them.

 

[aubeirish]

How much would it cost to get Bill Belichick? Half serious I guess.

 

[BoredIrish]

Josh McDaniel

 

[Cackalacky]

If we are just talking DC with BK staying next year I say hire Todd Grantham for DC.
I just can't imagine BK getting fired after just signing a long term deal. I think BK is Jack's man and there would have to major things go wrong to fire BK. If it happens that BK does get fired I think TG as HC and Mike Sannford as OC would be a good tandem.

 

[NDgradstudent]

there would have to major things go wrong to fire BK

We just lost to Duke.

 

[stlnd01]

Personally I don't want to replace Kelly. I like Kelly, always have. I want Kelly to turn this around, finish a respectable 8-4 (I'll grant we probably lose to Stanford), win a mid-level bowl game and head into next season with momentum, a big-time DC, a top ten recruiting class and a roster full of experienced, talented young ballplayers and maybe the best QB in the country. Then we make a playoff run.
And, while obviously September has been rough, none of that is anywhere near beyond the realm of possibility.

 

[NDRock]

Bill Cowher is only 59, and has been out of coaching long enough now that maybe he has forgotten how miserable a life it is?

He would be perfect here, if he actually had the fire to coach again.

 

[Booslum31]

If we change head coaches I don't think we get somebody as good as Kelly and I think we will royally suck for two to three years.

 

[Ricochet]

How much would it cost to get Bill Belichick? Half serious I guess.

He would cost $15m+ and one not put one second into recruiting and he would have a problem with football players being more than just football players hence why he would never become a college coach.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Don't crucify me, and maybe it's been brought up before, by why is Shaw's name not thrown around? Or is it?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

My biggest gripe with BK is his body language. He looks mentally checked out before kickoff each game, and has aged worse than Bill Clinton did as president during his tenure here. Now is the time to stop being such a cantankerous sourpuss and positively light a fire. The players need to be excited to make plays, not scared to make mistakes

 

[Ricochet]

If ND keeps losing then I think there is a real chance BK could be fired but I think ND will turn in a decent season when it's all said and done.

That said I think major changes are needed and there needs to be new blood and one's who are not Kelly's people that do things differently because everything BK's way isn't working.

ND needs to continue to poney up the money and get an elite DC. The University has been investing in the program and needs to continue by becoming a SEC like in the sense of paying elite money to get and keep elite coaches.

 

[Ricochet]

My biggest gripe with BK is his body language. He looks mentally checked out before kickoff each game, and has aged worse than Bill Clinton did as president during his tenure here. Now is the time to stop being such a cantankerous sourpuss and positively light a fire. The players need to be excited to make plays, not scared to make mistakes

I agree a 100%.