Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

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Who would be your top 3 replacements for Kelly and BVG?? And make them realistic as possible

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Herman ( I would hope this would be realistic)
Chris Petersen ( If we throw enough money at him?)
Whittingham (Always has a strong D)

DC-
No idea...
the Dr. Pepper guy?
 

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Buddy Ryan's Ghost with no OC.

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Whoa careful Calvegas you almost just gave me some serious PTSD, for a second I thought you wanted Willingham back.

For an HC replacement (and i'm not sure at this point that I want him replaced) my top 3 would be.....

1 Herman- No explanation necessary. Although I do have my reservations, for instance we don't really know how good of a recruiter he is yet?

GIANT GAP. So big I probably would prefer to just keep Kelly for another year.

2 Brent Venables? Seems like he could be the next star in waiting. Would love to put him on my list of coaches to replace BVG but there's no way he makes a lateral move out of the cushy spot he's got down in Clemson.

3 Jeremy Pruitt- Basically the same deal as Venables except at Bama. Also what do either of these guys know about the other side of the ball? Could we get one of them and hang on to Sanford to run the offense? Unlikely.

As for replacing BVG, who needs to be gone immediately, I would go with....

1 Dave Aranda- If Les gets the boot at LSU. This is #1 by a mile. His contract is not tied to Les's but we might be able to get him to jump if that program seems to be hitting the reset button. (I'd also be happy with just Les himself but that seems like a pipe dream.)

2 Mike Hankwitz- He's made Northwestern's D respectable and had a really stout unit at Wisconsin before that. Oh also he looks like Heisenberg.

3 Geoff Collins- Defensive coordinator at Florida. Was at MSSt before that. Great pedigree and can probably recruit the south from all his stops in the SEC. You'd have to pay him, because Florida just gave him a raise.
 

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I think Whittingham would be a good hire, although with USC and Oregon being up and down right now, this is a great time for Utah to be successful in the PAC-12. That South division is ripe for the taking. Moving to ND might be just enough incentive for him to leave, but I think it'll cost some cash. He's been at Utah for a rather long time though, you would think someone would have had success luring him away by now. I get the feeling he really enjoys it there.

I think it's less likely Petersen leaves Washington, at least right now. He turned down USC to coach the Huskies, leaving a very successful run at Boise St. I'm not quite sure what the incentive was to rebuild Washington tbh, but he's off to a good start this year. I'd much rather have Whittingham anyway. Petersen is more offensive minded, we need a defensive coach.

People keep saying Herman, but I'll bet a trillion vBucks he never comes here.
 

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I think Whittingham would be a good hire, although with USC and Oregon being up and down right now, this is a great time for Utah to be successful in the PAC-12. That South division is ripe for the taking. Moving to ND might be just enough incentive for him to leave, but I think it'll cost some cash. He's been at Utah for a rather long time though, you would think someone would have had success luring him away by now. I get the feeling he really enjoys it there.

I think it's less likely Petersen leaves Washington, at least right now. He turned down USC to coach the Huskies, leaving a very successful run at Boise St. I'm not quite sure what the incentive was to rebuild Washington tbh, but he's off to a good start this year. I'd much rather have Whittingham anyway. Petersen is more offensive minded, we need a defensive coach.

People keep saying Herman, but I'll bet a trillion vBucks he never comes here.

Herman Isn't coming to ND. ND isn't going to eat that 5 million buy out he apparently has and Kelly's contract too. USC has the money and the Alumni that would fork up that kinda of money and don't care. It's not that ND can't do it but they wont do it.
 

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Would be hard to imagine ND hiring a Mormon (Whittingham) or a rumored Scientologist (Petersen).
 

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Would be hard to imagine ND hiring a Mormon (Whittingham) or a rumored Scientologist (Petersen).

I dunno. We're kind of past that - at least the Mormon bit - aren't we? We've had plenty of Mormon players. Being Catholic didn't keep Charlie Weis from being an asshole. And it's not like Whittingham has three wives or anything.

Anyway, I'm still Team BK. So, not really sure who I'd want for a head. Maybe the guy at Wisconsin? Or Narduzzi. But let's see how the season plays out.
But for a DC, if I were Kelly I'd be on the phone right now to Dave Aranda. See if I can pry him loose in time for a Friday flight to Newark.
 

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I could be making up a fictional movie up in my head. But I think Herman is a possibility IF Urban Meyer still has respect for ND. Herman and Urban are still in big communication, So if it ever happened and Herman asked Urban what do you think about Notre Dame...that response will have a ton of weight in the decision in my opinion. Hell, he can bring his whole crew for all i care.

I'm with a few others, after that very large gap. I wouldn't want les miles has the HC and I'm not sure he'd take a coordinator job.
 

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Whoa careful Calvegas you almost just gave me some serious PTSD, for a second I thought you wanted Willingham back.

For an HC replacement (and i'm not sure at this point that I want him replaced) my top 3 would be.....

1 Herman- No explanation necessary. Although I do have my reservations, for instance we don't really know how good of a recruiter he is yet?

GIANT GAP. So big I probably would prefer to just keep Kelly for another year.

2 Brent Venables? Seems like he could be the next star in waiting. Would love to put him on my list of coaches to replace BVG but there's no way he makes a lateral move out of the cushy spot he's got down in Clemson.

3 Jeremy Pruitt- Basically the same deal as Venables except at Bama. Also what do either of these guys know about the other side of the ball? Could we get one of them and hang on to Sanford to run the offense? Unlikely.

As for replacing BVG, who needs to be gone immediately, I would go with....

1 Dave Aranda- If Les gets the boot at LSU. This is #1 by a mile. His contract is not tied to Les's but we might be able to get him to jump if that program seems to be hitting the reset button. (I'd also be happy with just Les himself but that seems like a pipe dream.)

2 Mike Hankwitz- He's made Northwestern's D respectable and had a really stout unit at Wisconsin before that. Oh also he looks like Heisenberg.

3 Geoff Collins- Defensive coordinator at Florida. Was at MSSt before that. Great pedigree and can probably recruit the south from all his stops in the SEC. You'd have to pay him, because Florida just gave him a raise.

I can't see ND again hiring an assistant coach who has never been a HC before. Haven't we learned the lesson (Davie. Weis) that ND isn't the place for on-the-job training as HC? As for Herman---maybe. But he's only been a HC for a little over a year. Kelly had a better resume prior to coming to ND than Herman does. I think a change should be at least considered. The problem is that there may not be a realistic replacement who would be an improvement.
 
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if BC crashes and burns, picking up their coach for DC might be a good option. They seem to always have a tough D, and he's familiar with the ACC opponents. Also, ND and BC from same mold as university settings.
 

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if BC crashes and burns, picking up their coach for DC might be a good option. They seem to always have a tough D, and he's familiar with the ACC opponents. Also, ND and BC from same mold as university settings.
Their good DC from the last few years is at UofM now isn't he?
 

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if BC crashes and burns, picking up their coach for DC might be a good option. They seem to always have a tough D, and he's familiar with the ACC opponents. Also, ND and BC from same mold as university settings.

If you're referring to Addazio, he's an offensive coach; and not a very good one at that.
 

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I honestly dont know because I am not sure who would come here. I dont think we are getting Hermann. Taking a shot on someone like Venables may unfortunately be the best option. I know BK is not the answer though so I would rather move on. Honestly I would fire BK now so that we can start exploring options and give Sanford a shot to lead the team the rest of the season. It honestly could not get any worse.
 

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I don't understand why people don't think we can get Tom Herman.

The way we get him is by being the first to offer and ponying up. Notre Dame is a top 5 job no matter what people say and coaches know it.
 
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I don't understand why people don't think we can get Tom Herman.

The way we get him is by being the first to offer and ponying up. Notre Dame is a top 5 job no matter what people say and coaches know it.

And Kelly has proved that you can bring athleticism to South Bend, the job is more attractive in 2016 than it was in 2009.
 

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Did he? Herman won a NY6 bowl in his first year in Houston- something we haven't done in...well, everyone knows how long.

Eighteen years as a HC prior to ND.
Three head coaching stops prior to ND.
Two Division II National Championships.
Two undefeated regular seasons.

Yeah, I'd say that's a better resume than Herman has to date.

Not saying that Herman isn't a good coach, but there are many examples of coaches who appear to be the next up and coming coaching genius only to crash and burn on a bigger stage.
 

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What about the coach of North Dakota St? Dominates at that level and steps up and beats a P5 team every year. I have no idea how old he is or anything. Just throwing it out there. Sticking with BK because you dont think we can do better is insane, have to give someone a chance to do better because we know BK can't get it done.
 

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BK isnt going anywhere.

As for DC, who I want is:
1) Aranda
2) Derek Mason
3) Bo Pelini

Who ND is going to get is:
CHUCK MARTIN.

That is my prediction.
 

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BK isnt going anywhere.

As for DC, who I want is:
1) Aranda
2) Derek Mason
3) Bo Pelini

Who ND is going to get is:
CHUCK MARTIN.

That is my prediction.

Yep. Not saying Martin would necessarily be a bad choice (anyone would be better than BVG), but that's my prediction, too.
 

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If you're referring to Addazio, he's an offensive coach; and not a very good one at that.

And I believe Michigan hired away their DC (who is quite good) after last season. Something we might have thought about trying...
 

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Speaking of Michigan DCs. What's Greg Mattison up to these days? Serious question. I just don't see how BVG can ride out the season at this point.
 

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Herman is this go-round's version of Urban Meyer...except that there was never any tangible evidence to suggest TH would even be remotely interested in coming to ND (unlike UM) other than ND fans' delusions of grandeur.
 

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What about the coach of North Dakota St? Dominates at that level and steps up and beats a P5 team every year. I have no idea how old he is or anything. Just throwing it out there. Sticking with BK because you dont think we can do better is insane, have to give someone a chance to do better because we know BK can't get it done.

He's like 45. This is his 3rd year. His teams are each worse than his team the year before. No thanks. He can replace BVG though, that would triple his pay.
 
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