Urban Meyer

[ThePiombino]

Urban needs to hang it up, he is a washed up coach.

He's not tho. He's is, however, a washed up human being. If he ever has a genuine come to Jesus moment, he very well could be an effective college coach at the highest level. He's done it twice already.

 

[Rizzophil]

Fired with cause so they don’t have to pay him out

 

[Blazers46]

Fired with cause so they don’t have to pay him out

He’s almost reached the level of having to be Sabans assistant to resurrect his career.

 

[NDFAN420]

He cited health reasons at UF. At OSU he was dealing with the assistant who beat his wife and Urban basically lied to cover it up. He was strongly encouraged to step down or be fired.

Imagine if Khan had done this on November 30. Oh boy!

Those health problems just happened to manifest after Saban shellacking his #1 ranked team and threatening his ability to reach a championship game while coaching in the SEC.

He was scared of Saban.

 

[Bishop2b5]

He’s almost reached the level of having to be Sabans assistant to resurrect his career.

I don't think Urban's ego would ever let him go that route. Also, Saban probably doesn't think much more of Urban than the rest of us do. I'd be shocked and disappointed if Urban found his way to Saban's staff.

 

[DONTH8]

"Who’s this 99 guy on the Rams? I’m hearing he might be a problem for us."

Too funny not to post.

 

[irishog77]

"Who’s this 99 guy on the Rams? I’m hearing he might be a problem for us."

Too funny not to post.

I saw that and instantly wanted to pile on Urbs. But then I thought, the way that reads, that could be a tongue-in-cheek statement and somebody used it to make him sound bad.

As much as I dislike meyer, it’s still tough to believe he was unaware of the best the player in the entire league for 5,6 years running.

 

[stlnd01]

That TMZ tweet is just a ripoff of this very well-reported (and scathing) article in The Athletic this morning.

‘The most toxic environment I’ve ever been a part of’: Inside Urban Meyer’s disastrous year with Jaguars

According to coaches, players and staff, Meyer crossed the line from tough and demanding to belittling, demeaning and leading by fear.

theathletic.com

I dunno. I don't see how anyone hires this man to coach football again. Even if you argue "he's a winner," you can't win a team sport by treating people this way. He's probably toast as a TV personality too.

 

[Rogue219]

He's going to be a college HC again. I have no doubt about it.

 

[zelezo vlk]

He's going to be a college HC again. I have no doubt about it.

T minus one year until he arrives in Austin?

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[stlnd01]

He's going to be a college HC again. I have no doubt about it.

Where? Like, what sort of program.
Blue-bloods won't touch him after what happened at Ohio State and now Jacksonville. His ego is too big to go to, like, some G5. I guess maybe maybe some wannabe elite where boosters run the whole show (like an Auburn or Tennessee) might throw a ton of money at him and look the other way.
But even then he'd get neg recruited to death. Would you want to send your kid to play for a man like that? (when they can go to lots of other schools with healthier cultures).

 

[ThePiombino]

Where? Like, what sort of program.
Blue-bloods won't touch him after what happened at Ohio State and now Jacksonville. His ego is too big to go to, like, some G5. I guess maybe maybe some wannabe elite where boosters run the whole show (like an Auburn or Tennessee) might throw a ton of money at him and look the other way.
But even then he'd get neg recruited to death. Would you want to send your kid to play for a man like that? (when they can go to lots of other schools with healthier cultures).

Tennessee after Nico forces Heupel out for making more than him...

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[Rogue219]

Where? Like, what sort of program.
Blue-bloods won't touch him after what happened at Ohio State and now Jacksonville. His ego is too big to go to, like, some G5. I guess maybe maybe some wannabe elite where boosters run the whole show (like an Auburn or Tennessee) might throw a ton of money at him and look the other way.
But even then he'd get neg recruited to death. Would you want to send your kid to play for a man like that? (when they can go to lots of other schools with healthier cultures).

What evidence is there to support "blue bloods won't touch him"? Major college football had some kind of moral epiphany?

Have any of his former players from BG, Utah, UF or Ohio State come out and said negative things against him? He's won at every college job he's ever had and won big. People will send their kids to play for him because he wins and he's gotten guys into the NFL. The vast majority of the world doesn't care about the 40 Year Decision.

He hasn't been out west since Utah and that was BEFORE they were a Power Five program. Nice weather for the wife....Arizona maybe? Whatever. The point is don't act like nobody is going to touch him just because he failed at Jacksonville and bailed on Ohio State for harboring a wife beater. He has yet to bomb out of a college job. Somebody will pony up money to get him. I'm guessing the only places he'll likely never go are Michigan, Florida State and Miami.

 

[Rogue219]

T minus one year until he arrives in Austin?

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If it opens. You don't think those people down there want to win badly enough that they won't at least call him if they haven't already?

 

[stlnd01]

What evidence is there to support "blue bloods won't touch him"? Major college football had some kind of moral epiphany?

Have any of his former players from BG, Utah, UF or Ohio State come out and said negative things against him? He's won at every college job he's ever had and won big. People will send their kids to play for him because he wins and he's gotten guys into the NFL. The vast majority of the world doesn't care about the 40 Year Decision.

He hasn't been out west since Utah and that was BEFORE they were a Power Five program. Nice weather for the wife....Arizona maybe? Whatever. The point is don't act like nobody is going to touch him just because he failed at Jacksonville and bailed on Ohio State for harboring a wife beater. He has yet to bomb out of a college job. Somebody will pony up money to get him. I'm guessing the only places he'll likely never go are Michigan, Florida State and Miami.

It's not even about the 40-year decision. I just think in 2022 (or '23) a lot of blue blood-type programs (like USC to name one) have alums and board members who'd be very uncomfortable with the idea of hiring as their most visible employee a man who's now left one job after harboring a wife-beater, as you put it, and another for being verbally abusive to both coaches and players. There was a lot of talk like that when those sort of jobs opened post-Ohio State. Now he's got another strike against him in Jacksonville.

Then there are players - who are vastly more empowered now than they were even a few years ago when Meyer was at Ohio State. They're going to read stories like that and think twice, too. Why play for a guy like that when you can play for Marcus Freeman? (or any other younger coach who actually connects with players)

Maybe I'm wrong. I could see an Auburn-type program (or maybe someplace like Arizona) throwing a pile of money at him if they want to win bad enough. Maybe he even takes the job. I don't forsee it working out well though.

 

[Rogue219]

It's not even about the 40-year decision. I just think in 2022 (or '23) a lot of blue blood-type programs (like USC to name one) have alums and board members who'd be very uncomfortable with the idea of hiring as their most visible employee a man who's now left one job after harboring a wife-beater, as you put it, and another for being verbally abusive to both coaches and players. There was a lot of talk like that when those sort of jobs opened post-Ohio State. Now he's got another strike against him in Jacksonville.

Then there are players - who are vastly more empowered now than they were even a few years ago when Meyer was at Ohio State. They're going to read stories like that and think twice, too. Why play for a guy like that when you can play for Marcus Freeman? (or any other younger coach who actually connects with players)

Maybe I'm wrong. I could see an Auburn-type program (or maybe someplace like Arizona) throwing a pile of money at him if they want to win bad enough. Maybe he even takes the job. I don't forsee it working out well though.

We're getting a tad ahead of ourselves here. Marcus Freeman is 0-1 as a head coach. Meyer has won 3 National Championships. He's slick, and he got as far as he did by being slick.

Until he proves he can't win college football games, somebody out there is going to go after him. Victories bring in more revenue for a program. There are plenty of programs that are willing to look past Meyer's transgressions, regardless of what year it is. I don't think he's been banished yet. Time will tell. He's won a ton of games in college, and he's a 57 year old white guy carrying around that resume. I'm not going to bury his career just yet. In a few years, maybe sooner, I could be proven wrong. Let's wait and see what the next coaching carousel brings.

 

[IrishRazor82]

He's one of the best coaches alive and programs will shed blood to win it all. If he wants to coach again he'll absolutely get a shot at a top 12 school.

 

[ACamp1900]

He's one of the best coaches alive and programs will shed blood to win it all. If he wants to coach again he'll absolutely get a shot at a top 12 school.

This

 

[Irish#1]

What evidence is there to support "blue bloods won't touch him"? Major college football had some kind of moral epiphany?

Have any of his former players from BG, Utah, UF or Ohio State come out and said negative things against him? He's won at every college job he's ever had and won big. People will send their kids to play for him because he wins and he's gotten guys into the NFL. The vast majority of the world doesn't care about the 40 Year Decision.

He hasn't been out west since Utah and that was BEFORE they were a Power Five program. Nice weather for the wife....Arizona maybe? Whatever. The point is don't act like nobody is going to touch him just because he failed at Jacksonville and bailed on Ohio State for harboring a wife beater. He has yet to bomb out of a college job. Somebody will pony up money to get him. I'm guessing the only places he'll likely never go are Michigan, Florida State and Miami.

He didn't bail at OSU, he was shown the door and it was a lot more than harboring a wife beater. He lied to OSU and failed to report what he knew. Not saying he won't get hired, but the OSU crap was serious enough to give any school pause. Just this year USC said he was not being considered for their opening.

 

[Rogue219]

To clarify, I personally wouldn't touch him and would risk hiring someone else if it meant that guy fails and I lose my job as A.D. The stuff coming out of Jacksonville is demented. He sounds like he's completely lost the plot and maybe has some mental issues.

“And do you know what would happen if I cut you guys?” Meyer said, according to four people in the room. “You couldn’t get a job paying more than $15 an hour.”

“Hey, Trevor, you’ve got to slow it down for him,” Meyer said, according to sources. “These boys from the South, their transcripts ain’t right.”

He supposedly said this shit to professionals in the NFL. I can only imagine how he belittles 18 and 19 year old freshmen. I believe the allegations and the guy is a turd. Truth be told, he never belonged at Notre Dame at all and it's the reason why he didn't take the job. Skip Holtz got him a job as an assistant. It was a stepping stone gig to him.

 

[Rogue219]

He didn't bail at OSU, he was shown the door and it was a lot more than harboring a wife beater. He lied to OSU and failed to report what he knew. Not saying he won't get hired, but the OSU crap was serious enough to give any school pause. Just this year USC said he was not being considered for their opening.

You really think he got "shown the door"? I don't. They gave him a crappy three game suspension and finished 12-1 with a Rose Bowl win. Gene Smith was found as liable as Meyer and he kept his job. Smith is still there. They could have shown him a number of doors, with cause, PRIOR to that 2018 season and didn't. They didn't want to fire him with or without cause. Period. They didn't have to fire him and if they did they would have likely had to have fired others. Like Smith. Then you would have had legal issues on top of that and would have likely had to have settled to pay him out. Tens of millions.

USC didn't consider him because they're finally starting to get some of the stench off of themselves from Poodle and Bush. It's been long enough that nobody cares anymore. It's old news to most people outside of ND and UCLA football fanbases. This, again, doesn't mean others will not. I'm shocked that so many posters here truly believe that in this industry he's not going to be considered as a viable hire again. Other than Art Briles, college football has been incredibly forgiving guys with questionable ethics who can win football games.

So I may likely be wrong in the end, but I'll bet the field and say he gets a head coaching job at Power Five school again.

 

[irishog77]

If deshaun watson can get $230 million, guaranteed, and a clean slate with the skeletons he has bursting out of his closet, this psychopath can get a job and several million.

 

[jprue24]

Have any of his former players from BG, Utah, UF or Ohio State come out and said negative things against him?

I've heard former Utah player and now radio personality Kyle Gunther consistently talk about what a piece of shit Meyer is. He'd dance around it to not get into specifics, but I have heard him say that Meyer used to throw water bottles at players.

 

[Irish#1]

You really think he got "shown the door"? I don't. They gave him a crappy three game suspension and finished 12-1 with a Rose Bowl win. Gene Smith was found as liable as Meyer and he kept his job. Smith is still there. They could have shown him a number of doors, with cause, PRIOR to that 2018 season and didn't. They didn't want to fire him with or without cause. Period. They didn't have to fire him and if they did they would have likely had to have fired others. Like Smith. Then you would have had legal issues on top of that and would have likely had to have settled to pay him out. Tens of millions.

USC didn't consider him because they're finally starting to get some of the stench off of themselves from Poodle and Bush. It's been long enough that nobody cares anymore. It's old news to most people outside of ND and UCLA football fanbases. This, again, doesn't mean others will not. I'm shocked that so many posters here truly believe that in this industry he's not going to be considered as a viable hire again. Other than Art Briles, college football has been incredibly forgiving guys with questionable ethics who can win football games.

So I may likely be wrong in the end, but I'll bet the field and say he gets a head coaching job at Power Five school again.

Yes. Everything I read pretty much spelled that out. The suspension was to quell the noise in the media and get ahead of any possible NCAA sanctions. As more came out on the Zach Smith situation OSU wanted to move on. Smith should have been let go as well IMO. I'm guessing he didn't have the skeletons in the closet that Meyer had is why he survived. Though the stuff about the team physician sure raised eyebrows.

The comment about USC supports my comment. They weren't going to touch him because they wanted to clean things up and his stench wouldn't have helped.

I never said he won't get hired again, but I think his track record is going to make many have second thoughts before hiring him. It's a different "woke" world from even five years ago.

 

[Irish#1]

Hadn't listened to Dan Dakich in over a year, but decided to listen during lunch. He's ranting and raving how Meyer is a great person and the article was just a hack job. You could have a video with Meyer killing someone and Dakich would find some excuse. When it comes to Meyer, he'll defend him to the bitter end.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

If deshaun watson can get $230 million, guaranteed, and a clean slate with the skeletons he has bursting out of his closet, this psychopath can get a job and several million.

If Hannibal Lector ran a 4.3 forty, he’d simply be described as having an eating disorder. Meyer will coach in college agin. Notice how none of the Jags’ assistants have spoken out yet. It’s quite a fraternity despite the disparity between solid, high character guy vs douchebag.

 

[NDdomer2]

i'll go on record saying hes done coaching. And that might not be because of lack of opportunities.

 

[Irish#1]

If Hannibal Lector ran a 4.3 forty, he’d simply be described as having an eating disorder. Meyer will coach in college agin. Notice how none of the Jags’ assistants have spoken out yet. It’s quite a fraternity despite the disparity between solid, high character guy vs douchebag.

It's such a small fraternity, it's rare to hear any coach publicly say anything negative about another coach. They don't say much to protect their own reputation and the possibility of getting hired elsewhere.

It's like listening to Gene Steratore comment on a call during the NCAA. Even when it's obvious the ref made a bad call, you rarely hear him say the ref blew it.

 

[Rogue219]

Yes. Everything I read pretty much spelled that out. The suspension was to quell the noise in the media and get ahead of any possible NCAA sanctions. As more came out on the Zach Smith situation OSU wanted to move on. Smith should have been let go as well IMO. I'm guessing he didn't have the skeletons in the closet that Meyer had is why he survived. Though the stuff about the team physician sure raised eyebrows.

The comment about USC supports my comment. They weren't going to touch him because they wanted to clean things up and his stench wouldn't have helped.

I never said he won't get hired again, but I think his track record is going to make many have second thoughts before hiring him. It's a different "woke" world from even five years ago.

So he got shown the door after a three game suspension, 12-1 season and nobody else other than him faced any consequences?

USC is one situation unto itself. Think about how desperate Texas is to win. They've churned through two head coaches and are now on a third since Mack Brown. Arizona, North Carolina, etc. would love to have the revenue from a winning football program where they have otherwise not had one for years if not decades.

Being held accountable for your actions being considered "woke" shows how f*cked our society has been for decades. Like it's a bad thing the millionaire in his late 50s from Ohio may not get hired again. I wouldn't worry, though. He's going to get offers, informal or otherwise. This guy got to do what he pleased and got away with it in the college ranks until he went to the NFL and let the world know what so many people already did: he's a sociopathic jackass and he didn't belong there, so he failed due to both.

 

[Rogue219]

i'll go on record saying hes done coaching. And that might not be because of lack of opportunities.

For as miserable as he looked in Jacksonville, he still lacks self awareness and is crazy competitive. I can't imagine that Jacksonville is the exit he wants for himself from the profession. He's unretired three times now. Maybe you are right and he's finally done, but with his personality I have a hard time thinking he's not going to want to get back into it. Not to mention I don't think things are as rosy at home as his wife and kids are projecting on social media. He may want to be back in it and not at home, and they may not want him home either.

However woke people think society is, we have pretty short memories and attention spans. The coaching carousel starts spinning earlier now than ever. Sark hits too many potholes come fall in Austin, I have a hard time believing they don't reach out and see if he's interested. That program is desperate to win and they're headed to the SEC in short order. The portal and NIL give players more leverage. Meyer will know this, whoever hires him will know it and so will the players.

As an alum of Cincinnati, you can't tell me there would not be mutual interest should Luke Fickell eventually leave there. They're going to be a Power Five program soon. If Ohio State did show him the door, what an opportunity for this spiteful shit of a human to go recruit for Cincinnati against Ohio State.