Trump Presidency

[NDVirginia19]

The fact you will still vote for him says it all. He isn’t favored to win in current polls. He is now claiming rigged polls lmao. Dude is scared and insane.

4 Years of Trump were considerably better than 4 years of Biden and another 4 years of Kamala. I think he's a pretty detestable dude but the alternative is much worse.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

4 Years of Trump were considerably better than 4 years of Biden and another 4 years of Kamala. I think he's a pretty detestable dude but the alternative is much worse.

What are you smoking? 🤣 I’d love some cuz it’s likely illegal where I live. Just kidding you don’t have to answer. I don’t give a fuck.

 

[RDU Irish]

The fact you will still vote for him says it all.

Yes - I vote on substance, not style. I will vote for a terrible person who affects the right policies because I am not an emotion driven simp. I was a SCOTUS voter in 2016, far and away the top issue of that election for me. I was proven correct and now your hair is on fire b/c the terrible person I voted for was more effective in upending Roe v Wade than all of the boy scouts and choir boys that came before him.

You don't really think your side is full of altruistic good people, you don't care. Commies love to bash and use their opponents morals against them. You love tampon Tim b/c of his policies, not his goodness. Keep demonizing Trump - projection is the Democrat way.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

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He's a complete fucking lunatic.

What's the bs that Bishop says about those resorting to name calling and personal attacks?? Those must not apply to his Lord and Savior Donnie Trump

 

[NDVirginia19]

What are you smoking? 🤣 I’d love some cuz it’s likely illegal where I live. Just kidding you don’t have to answer. I don’t give a fuck.

Low inflation, progress towards peace in the middle east, not having 13M+ illegal immigrants entering our country, no weaponization of the justice system against political opponents (not even talking about the obviously politically motivated Trump prosecutions), no sending pallets of cash to Iran to embolden them to continue their reign of terror in the middle east to include killing Americans, no cutting deals with a dictator in Venezuela to lower gas prices for domestic political gain. In what way are things better under Biden?

 

[RDU Irish]

Low inflation, progress towards peace in the middle east, not having 13M+ illegal immigrants entering our country, no weaponization of the justice system against political opponents (not even talking about the obviously politically motivated Trump prosecutions), no sending pallets of cash to Iran to embolden them to continue their reign of terror in the middle east to include killing Americans, no cutting deals with a dictator in Venezuela to lower gas prices for domestic political gain. In what way are things better under Biden?

Some might argue his inability to pursue prosecution of corrupt politicians is a red mark on Trump. Then again, he did get impeached for even sniffing the Ukraine laundering operation.

 

[TheProspector]

Low inflation, progress towards peace in the middle east, not having 13M+ illegal immigrants entering our country, no weaponization of the justice system against political opponents (not even talking about the obviously politically motivated Trump prosecutions), no sending pallets of cash to Iran to embolden them to continue their reign of terror in the middle east to include killing Americans, no cutting deals with a dictator in Venezuela to lower gas prices for domestic political gain. In what way are things better under Biden?

I stopped reading after your first point.

Please outline how Trump would have kept inflation low these last 4 years despite every comparable economy across the world all dealing with out of control inflation due to the pandemic and its after effects.

 

[GATTACA!]

I stopped reading after your first point.

Please outline how Trump would have kept inflation low these last 4 years despite every comparable economy across the world all dealing with out of control inflation due to the pandemic and its after effects.

Tax breaks for the rich and another trade war with China, duh.

 

[RDU Irish]

I stopped reading after your first point.

Please outline how Trump would have kept inflation low these last 4 years despite every comparable economy across the world all dealing with out of control inflation due to the pandemic and its after effects.

Trump likes to spend money - the only deflationary factor for him will be drill, baby, drill, IMO. Deporting demand for goods and services will likely largely offset deportation of supply of goods and services such that its hard to say which way that will pressure inflation. I'll believe we are deporting 10M households when I see it but that many open apartments/houses/etc can't help but reduce prices and possibly crush new builds which would risk recession. Medicine I think we need to take but highly doubt anyone has the spine for it.

Trump's Covid response is to be blamed for a lot of inflation and he sure as hell wasn't cutting spending anywhere outside of maybe foreign aid.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Tax breaks for the rich and another trade war with China, duh.

Regulating Tranny private parts and women’s reproductive decisions.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Trump likes to spend money - the only deflationary factor for him will be drill, baby, drill, IMO. Deporting demand for goods and services will likely largely offset deportation of supply of goods and services such that its hard to say which way that will pressure inflation. I'll believe we are deporting 10M households when I see it but that many open apartments/houses/etc can't help but reduce prices and possibly crush new builds which would risk recession. Medicine I think we need to take but highly doubt anyone has the spine for it.

Trump's Covid response is to be blamed for a lot of inflation and he sure as hell wasn't cutting spending anywhere outside of maybe foreign aid.

9trillion added to deficit in less than three years.

 

[NDVirginia19]

9trillion added to deficit in less than three years.

Debt =/=Deficit. It can be true that fiscal irresponsibility drives some inflation, the COVID stimulus in 2020 was necessary and both parties would have done it, and continued insanely high spending like Biden's "inflation reduction act" was irresponsible and hilariously ineffective bad policy.

 

[TorontoGold]

Trump the guy who never reached the same levels as Obama in terms of deportations, is going to deport 10M. I am old enough to remember when hiring IRS agents to recover unpaid taxes was fascism.

If anyone was to actually come up with a plan would it not be?

1) Task force setup for the sole purpose of finding these undocumented immigrants.
2) Task force collecting data on all citizens in the process of verifying immigration status.
3) Inquiring and going door to door to follow up on leads of suspected people safe guarding these people.
4) Forceful removal of these people from society.
5) Setting up holding areas, or camps where these people would be concentrated in high numbers.
6) Then coordinating their movement to offshoring them to a country of the Gov's choosing.

Boy, that sure doesn't sound like something popular to articulate to people. Then again, the muslim ban guy is still the other major parties nominee so what do I know.

 

[RDU Irish]

Trump the guy who never reached the same levels as Obama in terms of deportations, is going to deport 10M. I am old enough to remember when hiring IRS agents to recover unpaid taxes was fascism.

If anyone was to actually come up with a plan would it not be?

1) Task force setup for the sole purpose of finding these undocumented immigrants.
2) Task force collecting data on all citizens in the process of verifying immigration status.
3) Inquiring and going door to door to follow up on leads of suspected people safe guarding these people.
4) Forceful removal of these people from society.
5) Setting up holding areas, or camps where these people would be concentrated in high numbers.
6) Then coordinating their movement to offshoring them to a country of the Gov's choosing.

Boy, that sure doesn't sound like something popular to articulate to people. Then again, the muslim ban guy is still the other major parties nominee so what do I know.

Like I said, nobody has the stomach for it in practice. Definitely not the Lindsay Grahamnesty's of the world that can't wait for WW3 but can't stomach law and order applied to our immigration process.

 

[Irish#1]

9trillion added to deficit in less than three years.

The debt actually rose $6.5 trillion during Trump’s entire term—and is up $7.9 trillion in less than four years of Biden’s tenure.

The Left’s $7 Trillion Lie: Biden Far Outpaces Trump in Racking Up the National Debt

Projection is blaming someone else for your own bad behavior. We saw a classic case of projection in Thursday’s presidential debate, when President Biden—who is overseeing annual budget deficits of $2 trillion—asserted that his predecessor, Donald Trump, added more to the federal debt than...

www.heritage.org

From The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

• Federal debt held by the public grew by $5.9 trillion over the first three years and five months of President Trump’s term in office, and $7.2 trillion over his full term.
• Debt held by the public has grown $6.0 trillion during the President Biden’s three years and five months in office.
• Gross federal debt grew by $6.3 trillion over the first three years and five months of President Trump’s term and $7.8 trillion during his full term; gross debt has grown $7.0 trillion during President Biden’s term so far.

 

[TorontoGold]

Like I said, nobody has the stomach for it in practice. Definitely not the Lindsay Grahamnesty's of the world that can't wait for WW3 but can't stomach law and order applied to our immigration process.

Say they do have the stomach that you and #1 want.

How does that process look? How do you communicate the public that you are going to undertake the largest deportation in modern history? How do you flip on the stance that hiring IRS agents is bad, but creating a large government apparatus to observe and track your citizens for purposes of deportation is somehow better? Let's assume that people who call themselves libertarians also have a spine, how do you wrangle in them to support increasing the role of government in their life?

If I'm in charge of Dem communications I would say "they want to create concentration camps" "they are creating/or expanding a current three letter agency to increase surveillance on your day to day life". Seems like an unforced error to start trumpeting huge deportation campaigns.

 

[Irish#1]

This one made me laugh.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[yankeehater]

I stopped reading after your first point.

Please outline how Trump would have kept inflation low these last 4 years despite every comparable economy across the world all dealing with out of control inflation due to the pandemic and its after effects.

Keystone Pipeline. Day 1 Biden stopped it and costs across the board were affected.

 

[yankeehater]

Say they do have the stomach that you and #1 want.

How does that process look? How do you communicate the public that you are going to undertake the largest deportation in modern history? How do you flip on the stance that hiring IRS agents is bad, but creating a large government apparatus to observe and track your citizens for purposes of deportation is somehow better? Let's assume that people who call themselves libertarians also have a spine, how do you wrangle in them to support increasing the role of government in their life?

If I'm in charge of Dem communications I would say "they want to create concentration camps" "they are creating/or expanding a current three letter agency to increase surveillance on your day to day life". Seems like an unforced error to start trumpeting huge deportation campaigns.

They are not citizens; thus, the need to deport. It is a matter of national defense. Also, millions with no plan or path to success is how a nation can/will fail.

 

[TorontoGold]

They are not citizens; thus, the need to deport. It is a matter of national defense. Also, millions with no plan or path to success is how a nation can/will fail.

How are these people supposed to be found? In order to carry out the largest forced removal of people in modern times you're going to need to, you know, find these people and then boot them out.

Keystone Pipeline. Day 1 Biden stopped it and costs across the board were affected.

Trump presided over 8% of the Keystone XL Pipeline being built, you really think Joe Biden would have been able to somehow see it be completed in time to impact costs? You have a much greater opinion of Joe Biden than I do.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Trump the guy who never reached the same levels as Obama in terms of deportations, is going to deport 10M. I am old enough to remember when hiring IRS agents to recover unpaid taxes was fascism.

If anyone was to actually come up with a plan would it not be?

1) Task force setup for the sole purpose of finding these undocumented immigrants.
2) Task force collecting data on all citizens in the process of verifying immigration status.
3) Inquiring and going door to door to follow up on leads of suspected people safe guarding these people.
4) Forceful removal of these people from society.
5) Setting up holding areas, or camps where these people would be concentrated in high numbers.
6) Then coordinating their movement to offshoring them to a country of the Gov's choosing.

Boy, that sure doesn't sound like something popular to articulate to people. Then again, the muslim ban guy is still the other major parties nominee so what do I know.

There's a simple way that's much less expensive or harsh than what you lay out. Simply remove all incentives to be here illegally. Phase it in over a 6-12 month period to allow people to make arrangements and minimize impact on businesses, but phase out ALL housing and welfare benefits to anyone illegally here. Make it illegal to do business with them. No banking, no renting or selling homes or cars. No free medical services other than genuine emergency situations. Make any and all employment of anyone here illegally a serious crime. You employ illegals and you get fined heavily and if you continue, you lose your business. No licenses of any kind, from drivers to fishing to business.

If you aren't a citizen or someone who entered here via due process, then no services, no housing, no banking, no anything other than emergency care. Phase that in over 6-12 months and 99% of them will be forced to deport themselves. The US taxpayer will gladly buy them a bus ticket to the border to help, but all the rest ends. If you break into my home, I'm not under any obligation to provide for you, let alone let you move in and stay. I'm all for legal immigration and the opportunities it affords to those coming here and the benefit such immigrants bring to us, but this invasion of millions of people who thumb their nose at our laws is not acceptable.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[ulukinatme]

lolWaPo

I've got guys that I used to work with in 2022. No idea what they're doing now, and couldn't tell you what projects they're working on. Also, that 45 minute plane ride they reference was in 2022, and the 900+ page manifesto wasn't released until April of 2023.

Project 2025 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Trump has never publicly endorsed Project 2025.

In truth he's publicly disavowed it, but it's the left's latest boogeyman so it's being pushed as his platform.

 

[calvegas04]

lolWaPo

I've got guys that I used to work with in 2022. No idea what they're doing now, and couldn't tell you what projects they're working on. Also, that 45 minute plane ride they reference was in 2022, and the 900+ page manifesto wasn't released until April of 2023.

Project 2025 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In truth he's publicly disavowed it, but it's the left's latest boogeyman so it's being pushed as his platform.

So you think they came up with the project 2025 idea sometimes in the months after flying private with trump?

 

[ulukinatme]

So you think they came up with the project 2025 idea sometimes in the months after flying private with trump?

So you think they put together a 900+ page manifesto following a 45 minute flight?

 

[NDVirginia19]

So you think they came up with the project 2025 idea sometimes in the months after flying private with trump?

Think tanks put together policy pieces like this for every presidential cycle, and Heritage puts out in depth policy positions all the damn time.

 

[Irish#1]

That was pretty good.

 

[ulukinatme]

Think tanks put together policy pieces like this for every presidential cycle, and Heritage puts out in depth policy positions all the damn time.

Yup. There's a lot of think tanks out there with their own Project 2025s. Even the Centrists have one, it's called Moderate Power Project.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/28/fight-next-biden-administration-00165366

The difference is most of these policy programs aren't as well known because the GOP nor anyone else is using them as a boogeyman to scare voters. Democrats have decided to marry Project 2025 to Trump as part of their scare tactics for the 2024 election. GOP has instead focused on things like the border situation, inflation, election law, etc.

 

[Giddyup]

It’s about to get on. Iran attacking Israel. Democrats getting ready to steal another election. Get ready for WWIII.