Trump Presidency

[Cackalacky2.0]

Oof.

 

[ulukinatme]

Did he leave the White House?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Did he leave the White House?

She was told by someone that someone else was going to do something... something that never happened. Wow. Quite the "oof" moment, huh? lol

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Did he leave the White House?

Only because the January 6 coup attempt failed.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He's saying, out loud for all to hear, if you're mean to him and say bad things he's going to put you in jail should he win another term. Which is just normal now despite being completely fucked up now as it would have been before.

Lamestream biased media is all over the Virginia elections being bad for Biden, though, and Fox News has started their annual "War on Christmas" bullshit, so maybe this was missed. Not the first time he's said it though.

But I want my 401k to look nicer, you know, so I'm going to have to consider things in a year.

 

[ulukinatme]

Only because the January 6 coup attempt failed.

And if a frog had wings...

 

[ab2cmiller]

I do not believe that January 6 was even remotely close to an attempted coup.

I DO believe that Trump is capable of such actions if he were to get elected President again. The words that come out of his mouth are pretty chilling.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I do not believe that January 6 was even remotely close to an attempted coup.

I DO believe that Trump is capable of such actions if he were to get elected President again. The words that come out of his mouth are pretty chilling.

There has already been multiple individuals charged with and convicted of Seditious Conspiracy and sentenced to more than 20 years in prison.

What is sedition?
According to the United States Code prepared by the Office of the Law Revision Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives, "seditious conspiracy" is defined as "two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof."

Sedition is "conduct or speech that incites individuals to violently rebel against the authority of the government," the Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, D.C. explains.

When people use the term coup its not in the sense of a military junta walking in and taking over immediately but it would have been a coup on the administative level and using our honor system against itself. Actions Trump and his admin discussed an/or attempted to act on:

Post-election litigation - lost 62/63 cases in each battleground state. Never produced a single piece of evidence for fraud.
Pressure to prevent certification - When it became clear Pence was not going to paly ball (before Jan 6) they tried to stop the certification of the electoral college on the last hard date before Biden's Transition officially began - THEY DID SUCCEED IN THIS on January 6th. This alone is sedition. It was stopped and delayed and the pint was to delay it so GOP legislators could pass legislation putting the election results back to states since AMike Pence didnt do what Trump wanted him to do. Several Senators and Reps were involved in this to include the current speaker, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Gosar and several others.
Efforts to create alternate slates of electors - they illegally formed fake electors and tried to submit their votes to the secretaries of states in battleground states as well as physically tried to put them in Pence's hands.
The chase for possible fraud or machine manipulation - Making Sidney Powell a Special Counsel (loyalist to use powers of SC to support keeping Trump in Power). Discussed using Military to capture and sequester voting machines in battleground state (also to be handled by Powell). When this ultimately didn't seem fruitful due to non-loyal people in the way in the armed forces, Sidney Powell attempted to obtain voting data from machines in the battleground states herself and succeeded with help form local GOP people in at least one county in Georgia. These people are currently part of the RICO conspiracy in Georgia. They tried in other states. I think Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona all have independent investigations pending on this and Trump could see similar charges brought in multiple states.
Attempt to weaponize the Justice Department - Trump tried to install Jeffrey Clark as Acting Attorney General. They did not proceed when non-loyalists threatened to quit and resign in protest indicating the DOJ proper would protest putting Clarke in charge.
Pressure on the vice president - we all know about this.
The effort to harness public pressure — A social media campaign leading to Jan 6 violence.
Attempts to deploy the national security establishment - attempted to get spy and military departments to generate and produce information supporting Trump (Kash Patel, DOD Secretary etc.)
Here is a link to the Jan6th Report. If anyone hasnt at least looked at it and a non-biased eye, its pretty damning and also seems to be the proto-document for Jack Smith's DC case and Georgia's RICO Case where they could use their greater powers to compel and charge persons invovled that the House just doesnt have.

Select January 6th Committee Final Report and Supporting Materials Collection

www.govinfo.gov

Chapter 2 - "I just need to find 11870 votes"
Chapter 3 -Fake Electors and President of the Senate Strategy
Chapter 4 - "Just Call it Corrupt and Leave the Rest To Me"
Chapter 5 - "Coup In Search of a Legal Theory"
Chapter 6 - "Be There, Be Wild"

As of today, Jenna Ellis, Kenneth Chesebro, Sydney Powell, as well as the guy who broke into Coffee County voting machine office with Powell have plead guilty and stated that they acknowledge the case against them in Georgia was legit with actual evidence against them that was enough to achieve a guilty plea. Mark Meadows is cooperating with Jack Smith in the DC Case which is bad news for Trump, Clarke, Powell, Rudy and several other as of yet unindicted co-conspirators.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I do not believe that January 6 was even remotely close to an attempted coup.

I DO believe that Trump is capable of such actions if he were to get elected President again. The words that come out of his mouth are pretty chilling.

Whoever is writing his speeches has recently been taking inspiration from something we have heard before.

Political opponents called vermin and discusses rooting out opponents.
Threat from within.
Poisoning the blood of our country

Chilling indeed.

Axios - Pre-screening Loyalists and Oracle.
Authoritarian 2nd Term for Trump and Loyalists

This plan would remove any of the people from positions who stopped his attempt in 2020. The barriers in our honor system would be gone and they would do exactly what Trump wants no questions asked. I said before that Nov-Jan6 was a dry run and they tested and probed with the expectation they would succeed or create so many paths to succeed that at least one would. maybe they didnt expect people to stand up to him? If not for several patriots in specific positions of government or a group of people not willing to go that far and talk him down, they would have succeeded. That is chilling to me.

 

[Irish#1]

Whoever is writing his speeches has recently been taking inspiration from something we have heard before.

Political opponents called vermin and discusses rooting out opponents.
Threat from within.
Poisoning the blood of our country

Chilling indeed.

Axios - Pre-screening Loyalists and Oracle.
Authoritarian 2nd Term for Trump and Loyalists

This plan would remove any of the people from positions who stopped his attempt in 2020. The barriers in our honor system would be gone and they would do exactly what Trump wants no questions asked. I said before that Nov-Jan6 was a dry run and they tested and probed with the expectation they would succeed or create so many paths to succeed that at least one would. maybe they didnt expect people to stand up to him? If not for several patriots in specific positions of government or a group of people not willing to go that far and talk him down, they would have succeeded. That is chilling to me.

Testimony has shown it was more than several that weren't willing to go there. It was more like several tried to encourage him to fight.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Testimony has shown it was more than several that weren't willing to go there. It was more like several tried to encourage him to fight.

The report indicates otherwise and that is really a weird nit to pick to be honest. There were at least 18 people in Georgia alone....There were multiple dozens (if not multiple of hundreds in the battleground states) of people doing things at his request or on his behalf through HIS lawyers btw Nov and Jan. Luckily there were enough patriots to stem their attempts.

You not concerned at what they tried to do thus necessitating the need for people to stand in their way? If I learned anything from reading the report and watching this unfold is that a large portion of our government operations and positional authority operates solely on the honor system... so what happens to our guardrails in an honor system when positions of power are occupied by immoral and unscrupulous people?

 

[Irish#1]

The report indicates otherwise and that is really a weird nit to pick to be honest. There were at least 18 people in Georgia alone....There were multiple dozens (if not multiple of hundreds in the battleground states) of people doing things at his request or on his behalf through HIS lawyers btw Nov and Jan. Luckily there were enough patriots to stem their attempts.

You not concerned at what they tried to do thus necessitating the need for people to stand in their way? If I learned anything from reading the report and watching this unfold is that a large portion of our government operations and positional authority operates solely on the honor system... so what happens to our guardrails in an honor system when positions of power are occupied by immoral and unscrupulous people?

Since you were talking about Trump not going to leave the WH, I was referring to those at the WH and on staff. Not local or state government.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Regardless of one’s opinion of DeSantis, it’s hard to argue what he says here…

 

[GATTACA!]

Regardless of one’s opinion of DeSantis, it’s hard to argue what he says here…

“Got caught up in”

LOL. I hate it when I’m just waiting in line to place my order at Subway and all of a sudden I’m caught up in storming the capital.

 

[Irish#1]

DeSantis was hammering away on Donnie last night.

 

[PerthDomer]

DeSantis was hammering away on Donnie last night.

Most recent polling has Donald at 60% in Iowa and 60% nationally w DeSantis struggling for second w Haley at below 20%. Don't think he's got a big enough hammer.

 

[dublinirish]

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[notredomer23]

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[Circa]

Thank God for Donald Trump. The only real Man in politics today...

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Irish#1]

lol beat me to it. This is going to go to the SC before it’s over.

 

[IrishLax]

lol beat me to it. This is going to go to the SC before it’s over.

For sure, and I think -- absent some felony conviction between now and then for "insurrection" related charges -- it loses like 7-2 at SCOTUS

 

[ulukinatme]

Trump being disqualified would probably be the best thing for the GOP moving forward so the base can move on. Some Trump voters maybe don't go vote for another candidate, but on the flip side some independents might back a less toxic GOP nominee over Biden.

 

[dublinirish]

Our boy gone woke now smh


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[IrishLax]

 

[Irish#1]

Politics is at a new level.

 

[NorthDakota]

Couple things: the "legal scholar" who wrote the article is an idiot. He graduated from Cornell Law in 2022, but did not pass the bar until this past summer. People fail the bar all the time, including smart and successful people, but Mr. Ingrassia probably failed twice, as he lost a job out of the deal (many firms give you two tries). Next, he took a job with some Trump friendly attorney in NY and put that he was an "associate" on linkedin. However, he was not listed as an associate on the firm's website, and after questions were raised, he changed his job title to "law clerk" (In vernacular, someone who cannot practice). Holding yourself out to the public as an associate attorney at a firm when you are not able to practice is a big no-no I think. Anyways, he's an idiot. Trump sharing the article is beyond embarrassing.

Second point, one of Trump's PACs tried to not only get Ron DeSantis barred from running for President, but also to have him removed from office in Florida. For crying so much about "letting the people decide", TrumpWorld doesn't seem to practice what they preach.

Anyways, looks like the Iowa caucus next week is going to have some very very cold weather, wonder how much that will impact turnout.

 

[Irish#1]

Couple things: the "legal scholar" who wrote the article is an idiot. He graduated from Cornell Law in 2022, but did not pass the bar until this past summer. People fail the bar all the time, including smart and successful people, but Mr. Ingrassia probably failed twice, as he lost a job out of the deal (many firms give you two tries). Next, he took a job with some Trump friendly attorney in NY and put that he was an "associate" on linkedin. However, he was not listed as an associate on the firm's website, and after questions were raised, he changed his job title to "law clerk" (In vernacular, someone who cannot practice). Holding yourself out to the public as an associate attorney at a firm when you are not able to practice is a big no-no I think. Anyways, he's an idiot. Trump sharing the article is beyond embarrassing.

The dude probably got the idea from watching "Suits".

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[Irish#1]

Something tells me she's okay with Hunter and his actions.