Trump Presidency

[Irish YJ]

Today trump will try to sue his way to the Presidency and spit on the democracy that makes this country great.
Take your ball home donny. Just when you think he can't be worse... He proves us wrong.
"You're fired"

Our country will move forward and both sides will work together to make the United States United.

Here's to both sides trying to find common ground and make a better country.
Today most likely, Joe Biden will become the next President elect.
It's time that both parties work together and work for a better union.

While I hope for some unity, and for the parties to work together, some of the above is a bit silly. It's a pretty passive aggressive attempt to bash Trump for the same things the Dems have done, while at the same time calling for harmony. Nobody on the left tried to work together the last 4 years. It was just the opposite, and that's even without all the nonsense attacks.

We'll see if Biden's calls for unity, and that he's everyone's president, isn't just lip service.
Yes, he got the most votes ever, but Trump got the 2nd most votes ever. It wasn't a landslide, and the country is still clearly divided. I pray he able to keep some of the elements in his party in check, and truly does the things that are necessary to build a bridge. My hopes are not high.

 

[ulukinatme]

The whole Politics board can go to hell tonight. Every thread. I don't even care!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

At least the pandemic is finally over now.

 

[arahop]

While I hope for some unity, and for the parties to work together, some of the above is a bit silly. It's a pretty passive aggressive attempt to bash Trump for the same things the Dems have done, while at the same time calling for harmony. Nobody on the left tried to work together the last 4 years. It was just the opposite, and that's even without all the nonsense attacks.

We'll see if Biden's calls for unity, and that he's everyone's president, isn't just lip service.
Yes, he got the most votes ever, but Trump got the 2nd most votes ever. It wasn't a landslide, and the country is still clearly divided. I pray he able to keep some of the elements in his party in check, and truly does the things that are necessary to build a bridge. My hopes are not high.

My hopes are higher now that he has lost and so are the hopes for many on both sides. Not even arguable IMO
No Presedential candidate has ever done what he has done.
He's an absolute joke and a disgrace.
I'm not passive with my thoughts on him.
He's the worst President and the biggest embarrassment the country has ever had in office. Stated that previously a handful of times.
I'm good with turning the page. His supporters have no ground to stand on.
It is time to put aside for differences but I'll continue to comment about his absolute garbage claims as long as he pursues them.

 

[irishff1014]

While I hope for some unity, and for the parties to work together, some of the above is a bit silly. It's a pretty passive aggressive attempt to bash Trump for the same things the Dems have done, while at the same time calling for harmony. Nobody on the left tried to work together the last 4 years. It was just the opposite, and that's even without all the nonsense attacks.

We'll see if Biden's calls for unity, and that he's everyone's president, isn't just lip service.
Yes, he got the most votes ever, but Trump got the 2nd most votes ever. It wasn't a landslide, and the country is still clearly divided. I pray he able to keep some of the elements in his party in check, and truly does the things that are necessary to build a bridge. My hopes are not high.

Biden and unity lol you know it’s lip service. Biden does nothing just like always.

 

[NorthDakota]

My hopes are higher now that he has lost and so are the hopes for many on both sides. Not even arguable IMO
No Presedential candidate has ever done what he has done.
He's an absolute joke and a disgrace.
I'm not passive with my thoughts on him.
He's the worst President and the biggest embarrassment the country has ever had in office. Stated that previously a handful of times.
I'm good with turning the page. His supporters have no ground to stand on.
It is time to put aside for differences but I'll continue to comment about his absolute garbage claims as long as he pursues them.

Jimmy Carter, FDR, and Woodrow Wilson on line 1...

 

[Irish YJ]

My hopes are higher now that he has lost and so are the hopes for many on both sides. Not even arguable IMO
No Presedential candidate has ever done what he has done.
He's an absolute joke and a disgrace.
I'm not passive with my thoughts on him.
He's the worst President and the biggest embarrassment the country has ever had in office. Stated that previously a handful of times.
I'm good with turning the page. His supporters have no ground to stand on.
It is time to put aside for differences but I'll continue to comment about his absolute garbage claims as long as he pursues them.

LOL. Both sides have higher hopes? You do realize Trump still got the second most votes ever, right? 48% for Trump, 50.7% for Biden. Not exactly a windfall. Anything in the 45-55 range is still a country clearly divided.

You want to put aside differences now that your guy won after the stuff the left pulled for 4 years lol. What a remarkable effort and sacrifice by you.

I don't agree with the path he's taking, but garbage claim? You realize Dems have been doing the same thing all over right? Abrams here in GA to this day still doesn't accept she lost. But I'm sure you either don't notice, don't care, or think she's in the right... lol.

 

[Irish YJ]

At least the pandemic is finally over now.

I know right! And I bet the vaccines/drugs are all good now.

 

[Irish#1]

My hopes are higher now that he has lost and so are the hopes for many on both sides. Not even arguable IMO
No Presedential candidate has ever done what he has done.
He's an absolute joke and a disgrace.
I'm not passive with my thoughts on him.
He's the worst President and the biggest embarrassment the country has ever had in office. Stated that previously a handful of times.
I'm good with turning the page. His supporters have no ground to stand on.
It is time to put aside for differences but I'll continue to comment about his absolute garbage claims as long as he pursues them.

Except for not acting presidential, in speaking and tweeting his BS, what are all of the bad things he's done? Before you answer, let me help you a little.

1. COVID? - It appears that other countries who took stricter precautions are experiencing the same thing as far as a second wave.
2. Immigration? - Remember, Obama deported more than Trump did.
3. Economy - Prior to COVID, the economy was making record gains.
4. Foreign Policy - We've seen more peace in the Middle East with Trump in office.
5. Unemployment was at a historic low prior to COVID.

Trump's narcissistic personality and having to be the smartest guy in the room bothered everyone, including the most staunchest supporters, but if you look past that, the guy was pretty much nailing it. Given that, would you rather have a "presidential" president where things decline or someone you don't like that makes good things happen?

Now that we elected another career politician, my fear is we go back to the same old song and dance.

 

[arahop]

LOL. Both sides have higher hopes? You do realize Trump still got the second most votes ever, right? 48% for Trump, 50.7% for Biden. Not exactly a windfall. Anything in the 45-55 range is still a country clearly divided.

You want to put aside differences now that your guy won after the stuff the left pulled for 4 years lol. What a remarkable effort and sacrifice by you.

I don't agree with the path he's taking, but garbage claim? You realize Dems have been doing the same thing all over right? Abrams here in GA to this day still doesn't accept she lost. But I'm sure you either don't notice, don't care, or think she's in the right... lol.

Yeah pretty scary that many voted for him and still defend him after the absolute garbage way he's handled basically this whole calendar year.
I notice that he's a bag of mashed up asshole.
No Presedential candidate has falsely been so insistent that he won and is trying to sue multiple states.


He is good at convincing people to live in his alternate, full of crap, divisive, chaotic, don't believe the science, false reality.
Media is the enemy to Trump because they won't let him spew absolute untrue statements. What a joke that so many broadcasts just cut him off.
His radicals are bit too much like Nazis for me but hey,
There's always 2024 right? Sounds like he plans to run again
I hope the Grand Ole Party can bring something better next time.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yeah pretty scary that many voted for him and still defend him after the absolute garbage way he's handled basically this whole calendar year.
I notice that he's a bag of mashed up asshole.
No Presedential candidate has falsely been so insistent that he won and is trying to sue multiple states.


He is good at convincing people to live in his alternate, full of crap, divisive, chaotic, don't believe the science, false reality.
Media is the enemy to Trump because they won't let him spew absolute untrue statements. What a joke that so many broadcasts just cut him off.
His radicals are bit too much like Nazis for me but hey,
There's always 2024 right? Sounds like he plans to run again
I hope the Grand Ole Party can bring something better next time.

A majority of Democrats believe the Russians literally changed votes in the 2016 election.

It's not a Republican thing or a Democrat thing that people get irrational when it comes to this crap. Prominent Dems have said for the last four years that the 2016 election was stolen. They've called The Donald illegitimate. How do you square going after Donald for leading people into an alternate reality as though he's the only one to do so?

I doubt he'll run again. He'll probably have a media network or something set up.

Trump is mostly right when it comes to the media. They ARE genuinely awful, each network might have one or two decent folks but the rest are awful. They may have been okay at one time, but they aren't anymore. They literally ran with a Russian conspiracy theory and still believe it lol.

I'm sure the GOP will run someone more palatable next time but you'll likely find something wrong with them and vote for Kamala while saying how you used to vote for Republicans.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah pretty scary that many voted for him and still defend him after the absolute garbage way he's handled basically this whole calendar year.
I notice that he's a bag of mashed up asshole.
No Presedential candidate has falsely been so insistent that he won and is trying to sue multiple states.


He is good at convincing people to live in his alternate, full of crap, divisive, chaotic, don't believe the science, false reality.
Media is the enemy to Trump because they won't let him spew absolute untrue statements. What a joke that so many broadcasts just cut him off.
His radicals are bit too much like Nazis for me but hey,
There's always 2024 right? Sounds like he plans to run again
I hope the Grand Ole Party can bring something better next time.

I find that most that defend him that I've spoken to aren't defending his lies and rants, but the positive changes he brought with record unemployment, thriving economy, etc. They don't like his rants and accusations either, but they're willing to look past that because in the end his rants are just hot air, where the economy and unemployment are real.

He won't run again and I wouldn't lose any sleep over him contesting the election. He pretty much told you before the election that if he lost would he contest. So he whines, pouts and contest the election. It's not going to change anything.

The GOP found the right formula when they selected a businessman to run for office. Now they just need to find another one that won't have Trump's personality.

 

[drayer54]

I find that most that defend him that I've spoken to aren't defending his lies and rants, but the positive changes he brought with record unemployment, a thriving economy, etc. They don't like his rants and accusations either, but they're willing to look past that because in the end, his rants are just hot air, where the economy and unemployment are real.

He won't run again and I wouldn't lose any sleep over him contesting the election. He pretty much told you before the election that if he lost would he contest. So he whines, pouts, and contest the election. It's not going to change anything.

The GOP found the right formula when they selected a businessman to run for office. Now they just need to find another one that won't have Trump's personality.

They need to keep hammering away at the minority vote and keep the populism theme. Doing so with a woman to hopefully draw in the suburban women that have gone apeshit would be good too.

 

[NorthDakota]

They need to keep hammering away at the minority vote and keep the populism theme. Doing so with a woman to hopefully draw in the suburban women that have gone apeshit would be good too.

Yeah I suspect the suburban women didn't actually hate the message. They just have small emotional brains.

 

[RDU Irish]

Let it play out - I'm not going to hang my hat on this like the collusion hoaxers who were always one day away from the ultimate gotcha, but there are inconsistencies in data that merit investigation. Even then, nobody in PA or MI has the balls to do anything about denying meaningful access to poll watchers. Really think they will throw out 600k votes b/c of shenanigans? Once tabulated, can they dig out the dead folks, maiden name fakes, various double votes, etc? Completely ignoring court orders to segregate ballots - what you gonna do about it? Answer is nuttin. Way more substance to fuel illegitimacy fires than a BS foreign dossier that was slow walked to exposure as a hoax for four years.

Outside of Dominion consistently "miscounting" votes (easily provable by recounts) the recanvas efforts and other will fall flat on their face. 25,000 ballots harvested at nursing homes? Yeah we can't prove how they voted, tough nuggets.

But to call it all baseless? Laughable but predictable.

 

[Legacy]

I, for one, am heartened by the direction that Trump is and will be taking the country - pursuing legal means that may affirm the legitimacy of each state's results of their choice of Biden and the election, bringing confidence in our democratic processes, and assuring a peaceful transition by calming concerns of his dedicated followers.

I imagine and expect that while pursuing his rights in the courts, he will cement a legacy of unification by putting the full weight of his office behind the promises of "the best stimulus plan you have ever seen" of $1.8 trillion that includes forgiveness of thousands of student loans totaling billions, that he will complete the transfer of the largest farm subsidies - $46 billion - in history to help with their overwhelming debt, restoring the $300 billion taken from the CDC budget for the ad campaign meant to assuage Americans fears of the coronavirus and that he will speedily stamp his signature on a much better federal health insurance program that protects Americans who have chronic diseases. He'll further accomplish his promise to preserve Social Security and Medicare. Finally, his commitment to invest $500 billion in black businesses will help solidify many of our communities that are suffering.

Affirming our constitutional system of governance and the checks and balances of our three branches, acting to heal our country that seems so divided, breaking up the backlog in DC politics that inhibits positive changes for Americans and fulfilling his campaign promises will be what history will remember him for.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My CNN colleagues looked into 50 of the names on a viral MAGA list supposedly showing 14,000 Michigan cases of ballots being cast in the name of dead people. <br><br>Result: <br>- 37 are dead, no vote cast<br>- 5 are alive and voted<br>- 8 are alive and didn’t vote <a href="https://t.co/2qvoVmRI3N">https://t.co/2qvoVmRI3N</a></p>— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) <a href="https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1326000431546458113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Old Man Mike]

Everyone should realize that Trump needs to pursue every angle that he can (without costing himself too much cash or brushes with the law) in order to try to reconstruct his personal narrative of the Chosen Man who has never been wrong and yet who gets cheated and lied about by many --- The ultimate Hero and Victim. Well, that's who these types of guys are. I've mentioned before that I had to "consult" with another billionaire realtor ego-bully myself, and much of his life was a mirror of Trump with less politics and on-stage behavior.

Legacy was being sarcastic above, but I think that there might be something in some of that. As Trump pursues less and less successful "legal processes" and "executive privileges" and attempts at vengeance, I believe that this WILL in fact be a kind of unifying behavior (for many types of people shaking their heads against his excesses.) I believe that centrist Republicans WILL get closer to the other non-Trumpers in America out of continuously being aghast by his latest (and increasingly desperate and radical) actions and language.

With any luck, this ME ME ME trajectory will sour so many of the mainstream Republicans that his 2024 ambitions will be reduced to running as a third party. That is, despite his doubtless still existing rogue Stage behavior, and thereby "control" over many million voters, the Republican Party will be prepared in whatever ways necessary to keep him out of primaries as a Republican. The sad part will be that his barely subtle suggestions of being badly wronged and that people should do everything that they can to oppose the wrong-doers, will result in a lot more really bad real world physical behavior than would have happened if he'd just shut up and go back to his golf courses.

I'm old and I'm often wrong regardless of those years of observation, but it remains more than interesting to me just how far his partly-out-of-touch-with-reality ego will allow him to reach Olympic levels of Craziness in these next years.

 

[dublinirish]

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[Bishop2b5]

Everyone should realize that Trump needs to pursue every angle that he can (without costing himself too much cash or brushes with the law) in order to try to reconstruct his personal narrative of the Chosen Man who has never been wrong and yet who gets cheated and lied about by many --- The ultimate Hero and Victim. Well, that's who these types of guys are. I've mentioned before that I had to "consult" with another billionaire realtor ego-bully myself, and much of his life was a mirror of Trump with less politics and on-stage behavior.

Legacy was being sarcastic above, but I think that there might be something in some of that. As Trump pursues less and less successful "legal processes" and "executive privileges" and attempts at vengeance, I believe that this WILL in fact be a kind of unifying behavior (for many types of people shaking their heads against his excesses.) I believe that centrist Republicans WILL get closer to the other non-Trumpers in America out of continuously being aghast by his latest (and increasingly desperate and radical) actions and language.

With any luck, this ME ME ME trajectory will sour so many of the mainstream Republicans that his 2024 ambitions will be reduced to running as a third party. That is, despite his doubtless still existing rogue Stage behavior, and thereby "control" over many million voters, the Republican Party will be prepared in whatever ways necessary to keep him out of primaries as a Republican. The sad part will be that his barely subtle suggestions of being badly wronged and that people should do everything that they can to oppose the wrong-doers, will result in a lot more really bad real world physical behavior than would have happened if he'd just shut up and go back to his golf courses.

I'm old and I'm often wrong regardless of those years of observation, but it remains more than interesting to me just how far his partly-out-of-touch-with-reality ego will allow him to reach Olympic levels of Craziness in these next years.

I think you're putting way too much stock in the "Me Me Me" aspect of all this. That wasn't yours or anyone else's explanation when Gore refused to concede and forced a recount. It wasn't why lots of campaigns have demanded recounts. Personally, I don't think Trump has a realistic shot here and I wish he'd just concede gracefully. However, given the closeness of the race, how several key states seemed ready to call for Trump and then swung dramatically to Biden overnight, given the Dems' history (1960 and Joe Kennedy ring a bell?) and how conveniently almost all of the "found" ballots, late votes, etc. seem to be overwhelmingly for Biden, plus all the complaints from several precincts that poll watchers were prohibited from keeping an eye on the voting and counting, you can't blame Trump or many on the Right for being suspicious and wanting the courts to make sure all the voting was correct and legal. Let the process play out and let's be sure this was done correctly and by the book. That's not too much to ask.

 

[dublinirish]

I think you're putting way too much stock in the "Me Me Me" aspect of all this. That wasn't yours or anyone else's explanation when Gore refused to concede and forced a recount. It wasn't why lots of campaigns have demanded recounts. Personally, I don't think Trump has a realistic shot here and I wish he'd just concede gracefully. However, given the closeness of the race, how several key states seemed ready to call for Trump and then swung dramatically to Biden overnight, given the Dems' history (1960 and Joe Kennedy ring a bell?) and how conveniently almost all of the "found" ballots, late votes, etc. seem to be overwhelmingly for Biden, plus all the complaints from several precincts that poll watchers were prohibited from keeping an eye on the voting and counting, you can't blame Trump or many on the Right for being suspicious and wanting the courts to make sure all the voting was correct and legal. Let the process play out and let's be sure this was done correctly and by the book. That's not too much to ask.

they were gonna call before they counted mail in ballots??? Unlikely.

 

[NorthDakota]

they were gonna call before they counted mail in ballots??? Unlikely.

Yeah I think people might be a bit confused with this particular election because of the super high amount of mail-in votes. Even if media agencies call the election, it's not like the counts are going to stop anyway lol.

Hopefully the conspiracy theories subside but I'm much less confident about that. After all, the Obama birth theories stuck around. The "Trump is a Russian Agent", "Russia changed votes for Trump", and "Trump is illegitimate" theories have survived and been encouraged by Democrat politicians and media types too.

People will stomp their feet on both sides (Republicans over voting counts, Libs/Dems over some nonsense with the Justice Dept or SCOTUS), and then it'll be inauguration, and then 2022/24 nonsense starts lol.

 

[Irish YJ]

Yeah pretty scary that many voted for him and still defend him after the absolute garbage way he's handled basically this whole calendar year.
I notice that he's a bag of mashed up asshole.
No Presedential candidate has falsely been so insistent that he won and is trying to sue multiple states.


He is good at convincing people to live in his alternate, full of crap, divisive, chaotic, don't believe the science, false reality.
Media is the enemy to Trump because they won't let him spew absolute untrue statements. What a joke that so many broadcasts just cut him off.
His radicals are bit too much like Nazis for me but hey,
There's always 2024 right? Sounds like he plans to run again
I hope the Grand Ole Party can bring something better next time.

Trump has handled things badly in a lot of areas no doubt. Do you also recognize the dems have also been mashed up asshole? Guessing not.

Constant hem hawing from Dems about Trump's super spreader events, yet zero hem hawing about daily super spreading protests. And zero hem hawing about Dem's celebration over the general. Zero hem hawing about key dems and media personalities not following covid guidelines.

Absolute untrue statements? Like every Dem calling Trump an illegitimate president his entire presidency? Like every Dem and media pushing the collusion delusion for 4 years? Even McCabe today said he shouldn't have pushed the Page investigation today based on what he knows now. It's funny though, all the lib headlines start with "McCabe believed Trump was a danger" lol... They still can't be honest and want to push the narrative.

Media is the enemy of any non-lib.

But hey, enjoy your hypocrisy.

 

[arahop]

I think you're putting way too much stock in the "Me Me Me" aspect of all this. That wasn't yours or anyone else's explanation when Gore refused to concede and forced a recount. It wasn't why lots of campaigns have demanded recounts. Personally, I don't think Trump has a realistic shot here and I wish he'd just concede gracefully. However, given the closeness of the race, how several key states seemed ready to call for Trump and then swung dramatically to Biden overnight, given the Dems' history (1960 and Joe Kennedy ring a bell?) and how conveniently almost all of the "found" ballots, late votes, etc. seem to be overwhelmingly for Biden, plus all the complaints from several precincts that poll watchers were prohibited from keeping an eye on the voting and counting, you can't blame Trump or many on the Right for being suspicious and wanting the courts to make sure all the voting was correct and legal. Let the process play out and let's be sure this was done correctly and by the book. That's not too much to ask.

Gore lost by 537 votes.

This isn't 1960,. although a lot of trumpers wish it were.

The mail in vote were counted last and takes longer in urban areas, which BTW, in the state of Pennsylvania, heavily democratic.

everyone knew this. That's why donny boy declared victory at 2:30 am election night.

There is your "convenient" explanation for your
and others hanging on to these BS conspiracies.



Election sites have democrats and republicans working these polling stations.

Let it play out? What's the substantiated evidence?
And it won't make a difference.

Lot of Radicals just eating bullshit.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

We’re not really going to do the whole sore loser = ferocious competitor thing, are we? I do understand it from the GOP perspective where they can’t cut him off yet due to the GA runoffs, but I mean at some point someone’s gotta step in, right?

 

[arahop]

Trump has handled things badly in a lot of areas no doubt. Do you also recognize the dems have also been mashed up asshole? Guessing not.

Constant hem hawing from Dems about Trump's super spreader events, yet zero hem hawing about daily super spreading protests. And zero hem hawing about Dem's celebration over the general. Zero hem hawing about key dems and media personalities not following covid guidelines.

Absolute untrue statements? Like every Dem calling Trump an illegitimate president his entire presidency? Like every Dem and media pushing the collusion delusion for 4 years? Even McCabe today said he shouldn't have pushed the Page investigation today based on what he knows now. It's funny though, all the lib headlines start with "McCabe believed Trump was a danger" lol... They still can't be honest and want to push the narrative.

Media is the enemy of any non-lib.

But hey, enjoy your hypocrisy.

Yes, absolute untrue comments.

trumpism has his supporters bitching and making wild claims.
Going to have to be a lot of fraudulent votes.
the trumpism is strong here.
And if you truly believe that voter fraud will change the result than you are part of the problem.

Generalizing that all media is bad is just lazy and supports ignorance.
You drank too much maga kool-aid

 

[Irish YJ]

Yes, absolute untrue comments.

trumpism has his supporters bitching and making wild claims.
Going to have to be a lot of fraudulent votes.
the trumpism is strong here.
And if you truly believe that voter fraud will change the result than you are part of the problem.

Generalizing that all media is bad is just lazy and supports ignorance.
You drank too much maga kool-aid

lol. You just sidestepped everything I said.. what is untrue?

And.. Where did I mention anything about voter fraud?

There are actually lib studies that support that media is overwhelmingly liberal. It's not a stretch.

I think Trump is dick. You're the one that seems to be drinking the blue Kool-Aid.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Gore lost by 537 votes.

This isn't 1960,. although a lot of trumpers wish it were.

The mail in vote were counted last and takes longer in urban areas, which BTW, in the state of Pennsylvania, heavily democratic.

everyone knew this. That's why donny boy declared victory at 2:30 am election night.

There is your "convenient" explanation for your
and others hanging on to these BS conspiracies.

Election sites have democrats and republicans working these polling stations.

Let it play out? What's the substantiated evidence?
And it won't make a difference.

Lot of Radicals just eating bullshit.

Do you actually read anything others write and make an attempt to understand it, or is getting angry and ranting about Trump just your go-to, reflex response without any thought involved? This and your last few posts have had so little to do with what myself and others have written that I think you just want to vent and complain about Trump instead of engaging in intelligent conversation about what's actually being discussed. You're welcome to join us if you like or you can stay angry and bitter and keep doing a spot-on impersonation of every ranting lib of the past four years. Your choice.

 

[Rogue219]

Down 5 million in the popular vote and 0-12 in court.

That's not winning, that's Kansas Jayhawk Football, my friends.

 

[Live from Evelyn's Pub]

Down 5 million in the popular vote and 0-12 in court.

That's not winning, that's Kansas Jayhawk Football, my friends.