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Bogtrotter07
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In the 49 states outside of California plus the District of Columbia Trump has a 1.7 million popular vote plurality over Clinton.
Can you imagine the meltdown if Trump actually GAINS votes in the Electoral College, today?
I cannot speak for anyone but myself.
I have not heard Hillary complain about the Electoral College; I have only heard her complain about unprecedented (workin' the word!) interference by the FBI and director, and the hackers whom everyone knowledgeable is certain are Russian. If I were her I would have complained about the Trump campaign's incessant lying, and incredible, shameless promotion of false news. But that's me.
BGIF, parsing vote totals the way you did there, what are you saying? You want to eliminate California and DC? I mean, what the fuck? That whole point, isn't it? People are complaining about the pencil-necked communists that want one vote to equal one vote anywhere, isn't it? Who then cares how you parse it.
The reason all politicians are crooks is that they need inconsistencies like this to gain, and maintain, power and control.
Folks will never be in control of their government until they learn the following :
1) Someone with opposing views is just as valuable a neighbor and fellow citizen as those that agree with you, and the world won't end if their party gets in;
2) All governing districts should be designed by computer modeling based upon census data, and geographic location, and overseen by non partisan management;
3) The two party oligarchy is a huge limitation to running robust elections, and probably the main reason 'we are all disenchanted with the choices' every cycle. If we are going to keep two primarily worthless parties, different qualification, nomination, and selection processes should be instituted by popular mandate, (for instance, have VP candidates run separately from the top of the ticket, or select the VP as the second place vote getter in the Presidential race);
4) Make voting mandatory, and create a voting holiday. Make it on a weekend if you want, because there is no reason it need be on the first Tuesday, after the first Monday in November.
5) Eliminate conventions. Give the money a better cause. Feed the poor. Or give it to me.
6) Penalize candidates for lying, or falsifying information. All candidates should have to file a legal affidavit, response answers to a standard questionnaire, and after investigation is complete, those candidates should be legally and criminally responsible for their results. Likewise, if a candidate lies about an opponent, or their own record, they should be publically censured. (Don't say that nobody would run for office, etc. We would have better, more ethical candidates regularly, immediately.)
7) Ban anyone who has been in elected office for more that say six years, or two terms, from ever working as a lobbyist. Don't put up term limits. Just take the big bucks out of it for career politicians. If someone gets elected as a 538, then wants to take big bucks for bribing peers, let them. Just limit the time they can stay in office before they turn to a life of crime.
2) All governing districts should be designed by computer modeling based upon census data, and geographic location, and overseen by non partisan management;
3) The two party oligarchy is a huge limitation to running robust elections, and probably the main reason 'we are all disenchanted with the choices' every cycle. If we are going to keep two primarily worthless parties, different qualification, nomination, and selection processes should be instituted by popular mandate, (for instance, have VP candidates run separately from the top of the ticket, or select the VP as the second place vote getter in the Presidential race);
4) Make voting mandatory, and create a voting holiday. Make it on a weekend if you want, because there is no reason it need be on the first Tuesday, after the first Monday in November.
5) Eliminate conventions. Give the money a better cause. Feed the poor. Or give it to me.
6) Penalize candidates for lying, or falsifying information. All candidates should have to file a legal affidavit, response answers to a standard questionnaire, and after investigation is complete, those candidates should be legally and criminally responsible for their results. Likewise, if a candidate lies about an opponent, or their own record, they should be publically censured. (Don't say that nobody would run for office, etc. We would have better, more ethical candidates regularly, immediately.)
7) Ban anyone who has been in elected office for more that say six years, or two terms, from ever working as a lobbyist. Don't put up term limits. Just take the big bucks out of it for career politicians. If someone gets elected as a 538, then wants to take big bucks for bribing peers, let them. Just limit the time they can stay in office before they turn to a life of crime.
As far as my complaints, I am just amazed at how idiotic the idea of putting a hot mess in the Whitehouse, to 'fix' the problems in Washington is, when Congress, which nearly everyone hates, and sees as the bad guy, gets rewarded, and encouraged to screw things up worse. My complaint is akin to seeing someone I care about repeat the same mistake over and over, all the while they are getting the shit absolutely kicked out of them, confident that everything will be different because they made an irrelevant, albeit disastrous change, without dealing with the real problem.
Kind of like a woman I knew that got breast implants to keep her husband from kicking the shit out of her.
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I guess they have their target market.