Trump Presidency

[johnnycando]

Forbes Welcome

 

[BGIF]

(The tens of thousands of dollars thing is true but overly stated as if I'm a baller lol.)

OilCando

 

[IrishinSyria]

I agree that oil pipelines are attractive for a lot of reasons and I disagree with a certain segment of the left that tries to block pipelines as a roundabout way to protest fracking.

But I also think you gotta do these things the right way. And that means doing the environmental impact statements, not bulldozing sacred tribal land, and not using state-level eminent domain to avoid federal oversight.

Fracking and pipelines aren't exactly eco-friendly, but they're not worse than any other method we use to get energy.

 

[NorthDakota]

I agree that oil pipelines are attractive for a lot of reasons and I disagree with a certain segment of the left that tries to block pipelines as a roundabout way to protest fracking.

But I also think you gotta do these things the right way. And that means doing the environmental impact statements, not bulldozing sacred tribal land, and not using state-level eminent domain to avoid federal oversight.

Fracking and pipelines aren't exactly eco-friendly, but they're not worse than any other method we use to get energy.

It's not sacred land. The whole thing is a scam. It's been a lie for Indians to get publicity the whole time.

 

[johnnycando]

I agree that oil pipelines are attractive for a lot of reasons and I disagree with a certain segment of the left that tries to block pipelines as a roundabout way to protest fracking.

But I also think you gotta do these things the right way. And that means doing the environmental impact statements, not bulldozing sacred tribal land, and not using state-level eminent domain to avoid federal oversight.

Fracking and pipelines aren't exactly eco-friendly, but they're not worse than any other method we use to get energy.

Fracking is a terrible thing at shallow depths, in my opinion.

As a Permian Basin guy, my company doesn't frack anything shallower, than I'd guess, 3000' from surface. Where I work, we're after Avalon Shale, 2nd and 3rd Bone Springs, and the Wolfcamp. We're talking 7000-11000' deep.

Groundwater isn't contaminated or even remotely affected at this depth. The fresh water aquaifers are much shallower.

The bad part of fracking is the use of fresh water. Millions of gallons go bye-bye.

If we could harness the ability to fully advance and afford produced water to frack with, we'd have a win-win situation in my parts.

 

[johnnycando]

It's not sacred land. The whole thing is a scam. It's been a lie for Indians to get publicity the whole time.

Sacred, and the illusion of burial grounds and great stories of Buffalo hunts fill the mind.

In truth, you're looking at typical BLM land: the land no one but God wanted; but now it's a battle! Lol

 

[johnnycando]

And as far as environmental regs, I wish everyone knew how far we go and how strict things really are for spill remediation and follow up.

There's a big mental picture fallacy here.

There really is regulations and follow-up. Very strictly enforced stuff that the government makes millions off of in fines, wages to employees to enforce, etc.

We have a very proactive, self-reporting standard at work that will terminate anyone that doesn't timely report and contain an issue.

 

[IrishinSyria]

It's not sacred land. The whole thing is a scam. It's been a lie for Indians to get publicity the whole time.

Then let the case play out and show that. The problem is that the company created the appearance of trying to avoid scrutiny by bulldozing ground in question while the injunction was being considered.

 

[NorthDakota]

Then let the case play out and show that. The problem is that the company created the appearance of trying to avoid scrutiny by bulldozing ground in question while the injunction was being considered.

Standing Rock was invited to like 7 or 8 meetings to discuss the path...they didn't show up for any.

 

[drayer54]

I have 10s of thousands of dollars in oil company investments, and peak oil consumption is a pipe dream.

A partial list of products made from petroleum

1) I've played this game too. I've traded nat gas and oil futures with CME. I've made a killing on fine plays like CLR and MMP. Gulfport coming out of the crash was nice. I knew oil was too high, and waited to get back in in the 60's then blew my gains on LINE and Rich Kinder.

2) In 2012, I was at an energy forum with land men, petroleum engineers, GEO-nerds, and investors who thought peak oil was a joke and frackers were bulletproof. They were boisterous and loud, even for Okies.

3) In 2015, I caught back up at the same forum, only in Houston and you could feel the panic. Oil is a commodity, not a promise...

4) You're behind your industry....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oil-company-thinks-demand-may-peak-in-5-years

Forbes Welcome

Is peak oil demand in sight? | McKinsey & Company

Energy is changing fast...

 

[drayer54]

Fracking is a terrible thing at shallow depths, in my opinion.


The bad part of fracking is the use of fresh water. Millions of gallons go bye-bye.

If we could harness the ability to fully advance and afford produced water to frack with, we'd have a win-win situation in my parts.

You were close. Disposal wells and earthquakes driving up insurance premiums for those relishing cheap gas ought to be considered.

 

[phgreek]

The answer to both the "thanks Obama" argument and the why no EIA statement is in the article:





Basically, the company building the pipeline sought to avoid Keystone round 2 by building it entirely on private land. The federal permission they needed involved the permit for going underneath the river but authority over that rests with the Army Corps of Engineers which acts independently of the administration.

I've worked with the Army corps...I've never known them to do anything on any reasonable scale w/o DOI being informed. Lots of boundaries and such in a pipeline...lots of shalls and musts to dig a pipelien. So, I don't buy it. I believe The Secretary of the interior knew about this pipeline. I also believe there was likely a planning group where engineers from industry, the ACE and DOI were involved.

Shit, when we laser leveled PRIVATE ground we had to get ACE and DOI signoff, and do an impact study with cultural and natural resources...the entire gambit. I mean you can't even suck mud away from a dam that is in danger of failure due to sediment without an act of GOD...and some of those are Privately owned.

IMHO this project was known, and for some political reason supported/permitted until now.

 

[johnnycando]

1) I've played this game too. I've traded nat gas and oil futures with CME. I've made a killing on fine plays like CLR and MMP. Gulfport coming out of the crash was nice. I knew oil was too high, and waited to get back in in the 60's then blew my gains on LINE and Rich Kinder.

2) In 2012, I was at an energy forum with land men, petroleum engineers, GEO-nerds, and investors who thought peak oil was a joke and frackers were bulletproof. They were boisterous and loud, even for Okies.

3) In 2015, I caught back up at the same forum, only in Houston and you could feel the panic. Oil is a commodity, not a promise...

4) You're behind your industry....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oil-company-thinks-demand-may-peak-in-5-years

Forbes Welcome

Is peak oil demand in sight? | McKinsey & Company

Energy is changing fast...

Oil is cyclic for sure. But it'll never be phased out, I don't think.

I believe in history, not in theory. And history shows we go back rather than ween off oil.

So long as we have a lack of science changing propulsion and lubrication, oil will be there.

And I'm not behind in my industry. I'm at the forefront in optimization, which helps to produce oil in more cost effective ways in order to allow hydrocarbons to be more profitable in lease operating expense even with a supply glut.

The rest depends on effective high oil cut reservoirs and good engineering and petrophysical research.

I hope we can continue to give consumers cheap prices at the pump and stay in business.

A strong balance sheet, low debt, and good safe employees go a long ways.

Buy now.

 

[johnnycando]

You were close. Disposal wells and earthquakes driving up insurance premiums for those relishing cheap gas ought to be considered.

No he mentioned fracking not SWDs.

That is certainly a whole other can of worms but absolutely necessary.

And one of the most profitable businesses in the oilfield.

 

[drayer54]

Oil is cyclic for sure. But it'll never be phased out, I don't think.

I believe in history, not in theory. And history shows we go back rather than ween off oil.

So long as we have a lack of science changing propulsion and lubrication, oil will be there.

And I'm not behind in my industry. I'm at the forefront in optimization, which helps to produce oil in more cost effective ways in order to allow hydrocarbons to be more profitable in lease operating expense even with a supply glut.

The rest depends on effective high oil cut reservoirs and good engineering and petrophysical research.

I hope we can continue to give consumers cheap prices at the pump and stay in business.

A strong balance sheet, low debt, and good safe employees go a long ways.

Buy now.

Oil will be needed by Dow and BASF after we're dead. Planes will need it too. But dirt burners are on the clock when it comes to the scale we are seeing now.

This will get accelerated when we have another liberal EPA or gas price hike. We're a world where solar is now cheap and subsidized; and more and more people are plugging in cars. Energy is growing more as a service than a commodity. The rig count may go up for awhile, but the world is moving away from dirt burners for sure.

 

[johnnycando]

Oil will be needed by Dow and BASF after we're dead. Planes will need it too. But dirt burners are on the clock when it comes to the scale we are seeing now.

This will get accelerated when we have another liberal EPA or gas price hike. We're a world where solar is now cheap and subsidized; and more and more people are plugging in cars. Energy is growing more as a service than a commodity. The rig count may go up for awhile, but the world is moving away from dirt burners for sure.

I hate to say it, but we're a war away from $200/bbl oil.

When wars happen, rigs drill, gas gets expensive, and pigs die.

Lots of bacon and beef needed.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Speaking of oil, Planet Money recently did a 5 podcast miniseries where they literally get into the oil business in order to explain it and it's pretty cool. Includes an interview with the guy who invented sweet water fracking.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

And how is that the federal Department of Education's fault?

Public education isn't working in part because we drew arbitrary political lines on a map that concentrated poverty in urban districts that had no chance of offering a decent education, which only compounded the social decay over generations.

And if you're complaining about math and science specifically, that's precisely why we need a degree of federal oversight. A child in the Bible Belt has a right to not be taught Creationist horseshit, which is what their state legislatures would too often mandate for their classrooms.

Plus is just pretty funny to complain about falling behind in science when the current Republican Party is the laughingstock of the developed world on matters of science.

I am somewhat in favor of the charter school approach, and do believe in vouchers so kids/families can make choices. But unfortunately the party that backs charter programs also loathes regulation so it's a wild wild west with urban charter schools taking advantage of ignorant parents and their children.

1) I didn't blame the Dept of Education, but it's fair to question why the hell we need a department of education that doesn't educate anyone with the budget it has. Once upon a time, kids were being taught reading, writing, and math well before there was a Dept of Ed.

2) "We" didn't draw lines on a map. The government did.

3) You don't need to be a Democrat or Republican or strong environmental advocate to believe that our kids should at least be competent in school (in every subject). We don't need a country full of kids crushing Physics in 8th grade, but we are capable of much better than what the results show right now.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

And how is that the federal Department of Education's fault?

Public education isn't working in part because we drew arbitrary political lines on a map that concentrated poverty in urban districts that had no chance of offering a decent education, which only compounded the social decay over generations.

And if you're complaining about math and science specifically, that's precisely why we need a degree of federal oversight. A child in the Bible Belt has a right to not be taught Creationist horseshit, which is what their state legislatures would too often mandate for their classrooms.

Plus is just pretty funny to complain about falling behind in science when the current Republican Party is the laughingstock of the developed world on matters of science.

I am somewhat in favor of the charter school approach, and do believe in vouchers so kids/families can make choices. But unfortunately the party that backs charter programs also loathes regulation so it's a wild wild west with urban charter schools taking advantage of ignorant parents and their children.

Pisa tests: Singapore top in global education rankings - BBC News

Just released today. Tell me you're satisfied with these results or believe the US can remain the world's #1 economy in years to come if we continue on this path. The US came in 25 in science, 24 in reading, and 40 in math. Pretty scary if you ask me.

I couldn't even pinpoint Estonia on a map, but they are top 10 in math, science, and reading.

 

[Buster Bluth]

1) I didn't blame the Dept of Education, but it's fair to question why the hell we need a department of education that doesn't educate anyone with the budget it has. Once upon a time, kids were being taught reading, writing, and math well before there was a Dept of Ed.

...because the Department of Education doesn't actually educate? It was created to, get this, be a more efficient way handing out scholarships for tertiary education, enforce Civil Rights laws, oversee performance data so states couldn't hide failures, and fund programs to needy states/districts. It's an apparatus for allowing local governments to be able to build and afford modern schools.

That's not to say there isn't waste. We test way too much and that government waste is corporate profit as the testing companies get paid handsomely. But like with much else, the loony-tune Republicans shrug their shoulders and suggest scrapping it entirely, showing us all once again how they govern irresponsibly.

If only we had some politicians taking money out of politics and then we wouldn't have to choose between corporation-dominated and libertarian wasteland.

2) "We" didn't draw lines on a map. The government did.

We are the government, silly goose. Especially at the local level, where school districts and municipalities are formed.

Although there is an incredible amount to be said about the federal government using transportation funding and influence in housing insurance to allow sprawl to happen in the first place.

3) You don't need to be a Democrat or Republican or strong environmental advocate to believe that our kids should at least be competent in school (in every subject). We don't need a country full of kids crushing Physics in 8th grade, but we are capable of much better than what the results show right now.

Unfortunately we have a President who "loves the poorly educated" and a political party with no motivation to change the fact that uneducated rural America puts them in power.

Overall there is something to be said about the party with its voting base in the educational wastelands of the deep south preaching about education reform when the northeast leads the way in educational achievement. It's like diabetics lecturing people on diet reform.

 

[SavIrish]

...because the Department of Education doesn't actually educate? It was created to, get this, be a more efficient way handing out scholarships for tertiary education, enforce Civil Rights laws, oversee performance data so states couldn't hide failures, and fund programs to needy states/districts. It's an apparatus for allowing local governments to be able to build and afford modern schools.

That's not to say there isn't waste. We test way too much and that government waste is corporate profit as the testing companies get paid handsomely. But like with much else, the loony-tune Republicans shrug their shoulders and suggest scrapping it entirely, showing us all once again how they govern irresponsibly.

If only we had some politicians taking money out of politics and then we wouldn't have to choose between corporation-dominated and libertarian wasteland.



We are the government, silly goose. Especially at the local level, where school districts and municipalities are formed.

Although there is an incredible amount to be said about the federal government using transportation funding and influence in housing insurance to allow sprawl to happen in the first place.



Unfortunately we have a President who "loves the poorly educated" and a political party with no motivation to change the fact that uneducated rural America puts them in power.

Overall there is something to be said about the party with its voting base in the educational wastelands of the deep south preaching about education reform when the northeast leads the way in educational achievement. It's like diabetics lecturing people on diet reform.

Just wow to the bolded....from your profile you live in the rust belt....pretty sure that is the area that put trump into office and without he wouldn't have been elected!! Maybe you should stop preaching on message boards and educate your surrounding community

 

[wizards8507]

Trump’s election stole my desire to look for a partner

 

[ACamp1900]

Not procreating would be a big plus for the rest of us...

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

...because the Department of Education doesn't actually educate? It was created to, get this, be a more efficient way handing out scholarships for tertiary education, enforce Civil Rights laws, oversee performance data so states couldn't hide failures, and fund programs to needy states/districts. It's an apparatus for allowing local governments to be able to build and afford modern schools.

That's not to say there isn't waste. We test way too much and that government waste is corporate profit as the testing companies get paid handsomely. But like with much else, the loony-tune Republicans shrug their shoulders and suggest scrapping it entirely, showing us all once again how they govern irresponsibly.

If only we had some politicians taking money out of politics and then we wouldn't have to choose between corporation-dominated and libertarian wasteland.



We are the government, silly goose. Especially at the local level, where school districts and municipalities are formed.

Although there is an incredible amount to be said about the federal government using transportation funding and influence in housing insurance to allow sprawl to happen in the first place.



Unfortunately we have a President who "loves the poorly educated" and a political party with no motivation to change the fact that uneducated rural America puts them in power.

Overall there is something to be said about the party with its voting base in the educational wastelands of the deep south preaching about education reform when the northeast leads the way in educational achievement. It's like diabetics lecturing people on diet reform.

1) The federal Dept of Ed has a $77 billion budget. While their work is noble and in good heart, that number is insane. 98% of education and funding happens at the local and state level.

2) When you say President are you referring to Obama or Trump? Because there are uneducated whites in rural Mississippi, and uneducated minorities in big cities.

3) Curious to see your reaction the the US PISA rankings I posted earlier today, then tell me our Dept of Education with that budget and our educational system at its core is a bright shining star.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Unfortunately we have a President who "loves the poorly educated" and a political party with no motivation to change the fact that uneducated rural America puts them in power.

Overall there is something to be said about the party with its voting base in the educational wastelands of the deep south preaching about education reform when the northeast leads the way in educational achievement. It's like diabetics lecturing people on diet reform.

And this mindset is why your side lost the election and will continue to do so for years to come. Just totally out of touch with mainstream America, erroneously taking the intellectual shortcut of putting everyone who doesn't agree with your view of the world in the category of uneducated deplorables, and having no clue what those people actually believe or need. By all means, keep doing it! Worked out quite nicely this cycle.

 

[drayer54]

Not procreating would be a big plus for the rest of us...

Lots of folks need to do us all a favor and pull out.

Including this dumf!@#

Things I Blame For Hillary Clinton's Loss, Ranked | The Huffington Post

I'm just amazed that people are this far gone.

 

[NorthDakota]

Lots of folks need to do us all a favor and pull out.

Including this dumf!@#

Things I Blame For Hillary Clinton's Loss, Ranked | The Huffington Post

I'm just amazed that people are this far gone.

What a tard

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

...because the Department of Education doesn't actually educate? It was created to, get this, be a more efficient way handing out scholarships for tertiary education, enforce Civil Rights laws, oversee performance data so states couldn't hide failures, and fund programs to needy states/districts. It's an apparatus for allowing local governments to be able to build and afford modern schools.

That's not to say there isn't waste. We test way too much and that government waste is corporate profit as the testing companies get paid handsomely. But like with much else, the loony-tune Republicans shrug their shoulders and suggest scrapping it entirely, showing us all once again how they govern irresponsibly.

If only we had some politicians taking money out of politics and then we wouldn't have to choose between corporation-dominated and libertarian wasteland.



We are the government, silly goose. Especially at the local level, where school districts and municipalities are formed.

Although there is an incredible amount to be said about the federal government using transportation funding and influence in housing insurance to allow sprawl to happen in the first place.



Unfortunately we have a President who "loves the poorly educated" and a political party with no motivation to change the fact that uneducated rural America puts them in power.

Overall there is something to be said about the party with its voting base in the educational wastelands of the deep south preaching about education reform when the northeast leads the way in educational achievement. It's like diabetics lecturing people on diet reform.

Let's not forget...the federal Dept of Ed is 100% unconstitutional.

 

[drayer54]

What a tard

Have no fear. I'm sure the tard is from one of Buster's preferred regions of educational achievement.

 

[connor_in]

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