Truck plows into Christmas Market in Berlin

[NDPhilly]

Feel bad for the Europeans that are going to see the entire culture of their countries change in the coming years because of the policies of Merkel and others.

 

[MNIrishman]

ISIS claimed responsibility

The whole thing mirrors the France attacks

The Muslim terrorists are instructed to use automobiles as weapmannow

Can't discriminate. Now the TSA is going to have to glove you up before you can get behind the wheel. Just to be safe.

 

[Rizzophil]

Feel bad for the Europeans that are going to see the entire culture of their countries change in the coming years because of the policies of Merkel and others.

No one remembers the immigration act in American. It ended in 1952 but basically only allowed so many people per year bc they had to assimilate to American values and morals. Seems like a pipe dream now.

A quarter of this country hates america and wants to see it fundamentally changed. It's going to be a clash one way or another

 

[NorthDakota]

Feel bad for the Europeans that are going to see the entire culture of their countries change in the coming years because of the policies of Merkel and others.

Expulsion is the answer. Auf wiedersehen!!

 

[Irish YJ]

No one remembers the immigration act in American. It ended in 1952 but basically only allowed so many people per year bc they had to assimilate to American values and morals. Seems like a pipe dream now.

A quarter of this country hates america and wants to see it fundamentally changed. It's going to be a clash one way or another

Sounds like a good plan. There was likely something to it, as we no longer have the act, and many no longer have American values and morals.

By the way... Saw a bumper sticker yesterday... Viva Amexico or something close with a play on the American Flag.

 

[Irish YJ]

Can't discriminate. Now the TSA is going to have to glove you up before you can get behind the wheel. Just to be safe.

Nope, but probably a DMV watch list...

 

[notredomer23]

Read on twitter the driver was of Pakistani origin. No idea if accurate.

Edit: Fox mentions it: At least 9 dead, dozens injured after truck plows into Berlin Christmas market in apparent terror attack | Fox News

 

[Buster Bluth]

No one remembers the immigration act in American. It ended in 1952 but basically only allowed so many people per year bc they had to assimilate to American values and morals. Seems like a pipe dream now.

A quarter of this country hates america and wants to see it fundamentally changed. It's going to be a clash one way or another

I'd love you to elaborate on this.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'd love you to elaborate on this.

Buster we already know that anyone against the dem's "walk freely across the rio grande act" is an outright racist.

 

[Rizzophil]

I'd love you to elaborate on this.

The Immigration Act of 1924 limited the number of immigrants allowed entry into the United States through a national origins quota. The quota provided immigration visas to two percent of the total number of people of each nationality in the United States as of the 1890 national census. It completely excluded immigrants from Asia.



When was the last time you heard CNN, ABC, or CBS talk about this part of history to protect our country?

 

[NorthDakota]

Buster we already know that anyone against the dem's "walk freely across the rio grande act" is an outright racist.

Hey man, if a guy named Jesus wants to walk on the Rio Grande (no bridges or fords allowed, muse walk on top of the water) I welcome him into the US.

 

[NDgradstudent]

I'd love you to elaborate on this.

Do you think the country would change if we swapped our population with that of Iran?

 

[Booslum31]

The Immigration Act of 1924 limited the number of immigrants allowed entry into the United States through a national origins quota. The quota provided immigration visas to two percent of the total number of people of each nationality in the United States as of the 1890 national census. It completely excluded immigrants from Asia.



When was the last time you heard CNN, ABC, or CBS talk about this part of history to protect our country?

Good stuff Rizzophil...I had forgotten that this was how immigration was handled. We have moved a great distance from this approach.

 

[BobbyMac]

Feel bad for the Europeans that are going to see the entire culture of their countries change in the coming years because of the policies of Merkel and others.

I feel bad for the European refugees that were looking for a better place to live and would have functionally assimilated because they are going to get waxed with the trouble makers when the Nationalists rise up and start cleansing. It's gonna happen. Europeans are pretty liberal util they're not.

It's coming. It's always been coming.

 

[Booslum31]

CNN...Dead Polish citizen found in the passenger seat of the truck.

 

[notredomer23]

CNN...Dead Polish citizen found in the passenger seat of the truck.

From what I could gather from some German articles... The owner of the truck said he sent his cousin with it en route to Italy. Sounds like it was hijacked by the attacker.

If Fox's sources are accurate, Merkel is gonna feel the heat: Suspect in Berlin Christmas market attack came to Germany as refugee, reports say | Fox News

 

[Rizzophil]

From what I could gather from some German articles... The owner of the truck said he sent his cousin with it en route to Italy. Sounds like it was hijacked by the attacker.

If Fox's sources are accurate, Merkel is gonna feel the heat: Suspect in Berlin Christmas market attack came to Germany as refugee, reports say | Fox News

Markell owns the mainstream media. She publicly won't get touched

 

[Buster Bluth]

The Immigration Act of 1924 limited the number of immigrants allowed entry into the United States through a national origins quota. The quota provided immigration visas to two percent of the total number of people of each nationality in the United States as of the 1890 national census. It completely excluded immigrants from Asia.

When was the last time you heard CNN, ABC, or CBS talk about this part of history to protect our country?

Because it didn't protect our country, the law is a embarrassment from the days of codified racism. And not the modern accusations of racism that take a broad definition of the word, immigration laws from back in the day are 100% actual racism, and they were proud of it.

I wonder what you mean by "assimilate to American values and morals" in 2016? Does that mean being a Protestant? Is that an American value and morale system? They thought so in 1924. They also thought you shouldn't be able to buy a beer, how American is that these days?

What was it about the Italians that this law sought to pick 1890 as the measuring date (pre-Italian immigration), thereby reducing Italian immigration by 90%? Can Italians not "assimilate to American values and morals?"

What is there to like about a complete ban of Asian immigrants in 2016? Here I thought the Conservatives loved pointing out model minority here and how Asians work hard, get educations, and achieve prosperity at an astounding rate? Why wouldn't we want more of them?

If we're opening up history lessons to protect our country? Why don't we just group Muslims up and put them in internment camps? That's the sort of thing they'd do in the first half of the twentieth century, clearly we looove taking advice from those guys.

The point of that law was to cut back on the numbers of Southern and Eastern Europeans, "preserve the ideal of American homogeneity." But tell me, in a generations or two didn't those groups coalesce into an even greater America and prove that this law was total horseshit? Today, who the hell cares if you're Polish or Italian? The people who wrote that shitty law did care. And they cared if you were Asian/Arab/African and unfortunately we have some people today running around peddling the same bullshit: that it is somehow wise to generalize a whole continent or billion-person religion.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Do you think the country would change if we swapped our population with that of Iran?

Is this serious?

 

[Woneone]

Because it didn't protect our country, the law is a embarrassment from the days of codified racism. And not the modern accusations of racism that take a broad definition of the word, immigration laws from back in the day are 100% actual racism, and they were proud of it.

I wonder what you mean by "assimilate to American values and morals" in 2016? Does that mean being a Protestant? Is that an American value and morale system? They thought so in 1924. They also thought you shouldn't be able to buy a beer, how American is that these days?

What was it about the Italians that this law sought to pick 1890 as the measuring date (pre-Italian immigration), thereby reducing Italian immigration by 90%? Can Italians not "assimilate to American values and morals?"

What is there to like about a complete ban of Asian immigrants in 2016? Here I thought the Conservatives loved pointing out model minority here and how Asians work hard, get educations, and achieve prosperity at an astounding rate? Why wouldn't we want more of them?

If we're opening up history lessons to protect our country? Why don't we just group Muslims up and put them in internment camps? That's the sort of thing they'd do in the first half of the twentieth century, clearly we looove taking advice from those guys.

The point of that law was to cut back on the numbers of Southern and Eastern Europeans, "preserve the ideal of American homogeneity." But tell me, in a generations or two didn't those groups coalesce into an even greater America and prove that this law was total horseshit? Today, who the hell cares if you're Polish or Italian? The people who wrote that shitty law did care. And they cared if you were Asian/Arab/African and unfortunately we have some people today running around peddling the same bullshit: that it is somehow wise to generalize a whole continent or billion-person religion.

As Ben Shapiro has stated, not all value systems are created equally and in their current forms not compatible. Do you believe Sharia law, and the value set that accompanies it, is compatible with Western Civilization?

 

[irishff1014]

ISIS claiming responsibility is a surprise NOT. I can't say what we should do to them or I might get banned again....

 

[Voltaire]

CNN...Dead Polish citizen found in the passenger seat of the truck.

Perhaps not ISIS but instead a weekend at Bernie's type of situation?

 

[Buster Bluth]

As Ben Shapiro has stated, not all value systems are created equally and in their current forms not compatible. Do you believe Sharia law, and the value set that accompanies it, is compatible with Western Civilization?

This is an impossible question to ask because Sharia law isn't a tangible thing per se. It's not a written set of legal statutes that is followed uniformly by those who say they are doing so. It's like WWJD for Christians, at the end of the day people will believe what they want to believe and work out the mental gymnastics later. ISIS is following a particularly strict and gruesome interpretation of it. This is what happens when a religion doesn't have a centralized authority, like the Vatican, to act as a moderating force.

The concern shouldn't be some broad angle on Sharia law, but predominantly men who follow the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Sunni Islam. It beyond annoying to see our politicians and media constantly fail to point the finger at Wahhabism. Xenophobia comes from having sloppy opinions, and they are perpetuated by the politicians and media for power and ratings.

We already have a strict immigration policy, despite the rhetoric coming from the Right. The Muslims we allow to immigrate are usually well educated. Think of the Pakistani doctor you see at a hospital, or a Turkish professor at a university. We are not taking on random refugees by the hundreds of thousands.

 

[MNIrishman]

This is an impossible question to ask because Sharia law isn't a tangible thing per se. It's not a written set of legal statutes that is followed uniformly by those who say they are doing so. It's like WWJD for Christians, at the end of the day people will believe what they want to believe and work out the mental gymnastics later. ISIS is following a particularly strict and gruesome interpretation of it. This is what happens when a religion doesn't have a centralized authority, like the Vatican, to act as a moderating force.

The concern shouldn't be some broad angle on Sharia law, but predominantly men who follow the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Sunni Islam. It beyond annoying to see our politicians and media constantly fail to point the finger at Wahhabism. Xenophobia comes from having sloppy opinions, and they are perpetuated by the politicians and media for power and ratings.

We already have a strict immigration policy, despite the rhetoric coming from the Right. The Muslims we allow to immigrate are usually well educated. Think of the Pakistani doctor you see at a hospital, or a Turkish professor at a university. We are not taking on random refugees by the hundreds of thousands.

Man I've got to tell you about a city called Minneapolis sometime. Most Somali immigrants in the country, and boy do they not integrate well.

 

[Rizzophil]

Man I've got to tell you about a city called Minneapolis sometime. Most Somali immigrants in the country, and boy do they not integrate well.

You are totally right. I think they will be the first city that attempts to mix sharia law with the US constitution


The reason sharia law is so...dangerous is because it take the Quaran literally. You should read it sometime. It is ROUGH

 

[irishroo]

This is an impossible question to ask because Sharia law isn't a tangible thing per se. It's not a written set of legal statutes that is followed uniformly by those who say they are doing so. It's like WWJD for Christians, at the end of the day people will believe what they want to believe and work out the mental gymnastics later. ISIS is following a particularly strict and gruesome interpretation of it. This is what happens when a religion doesn't have a centralized authority, like the Vatican, to act as a moderating force.

The concern shouldn't be some broad angle on Sharia law, but predominantly men who follow the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Sunni Islam. It beyond annoying to see our politicians and media constantly fail to point the finger at Wahhabism. Xenophobia comes from having sloppy opinions, and they are perpetuated by the politicians and media for power and ratings.

We already have a strict immigration policy, despite the rhetoric coming from the Right. The Muslims we allow to immigrate are usually well educated. Think of the Pakistani doctor you see at a hospital, or a Turkish professor at a university. We are not taking on random refugees by the hundreds of thousands.

This is right on. I understand that the internet and our society in general isn't exactly a place for nuance, but I don't understand why the media and political establishment has such a hard time distinguishing between Wahhabism and mainstream Islam - we certainly don't have a difficult time separating the Westboro Baptist Church from the Southern Baptist Convention.

 

[NorthDakota]

Man I've got to tell you about a city called Minneapolis sometime. Most Somali immigrants in the country, and boy do they not integrate well.

Fargo too. Lutheran Social Services makes buckets of money bringing them here.

 

[Woneone]

This is an impossible question to ask because Sharia law isn't a tangible thing per se. It's not a written set of legal statutes that is followed uniformly by those who say they are doing so. It's like WWJD for Christians, at the end of the day people will believe what they want to believe and work out the mental gymnastics later. ISIS is following a particularly strict and gruesome interpretation of it. This is what happens when a religion doesn't have a centralized authority, like the Vatican, to act as a moderating force.

The concern shouldn't be some broad angle on Sharia law, but predominantly men who follow the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Sunni Islam. It beyond annoying to see our politicians and media constantly fail to point the finger at Wahhabism. Xenophobia comes from having sloppy opinions, and they are perpetuated by the politicians and media for power and ratings.

We already have a strict immigration policy, despite the rhetoric coming from the Right. The Muslims we allow to immigrate are usually well educated. Think of the Pakistani doctor you see at a hospital, or a Turkish professor at a university. We are not taking on random refugees by the hundreds of thousands.

Couple points:

- So you are contending that the basic tenants of Sharia Law are impossible to define? There is a huge difference between the level of application of Sharia Law in a Muslim-Majority countries legal framework and the actual concept of Sharia Law itself. There may be a ambiguity in it's interpretation (just like ANY other legal system), but I don't think it's impossible to define the value set associated with it. I guess it kind of is like WWJD, but you actually have someone grading your answer and could be stoned to death if guessing incorrectly. Same basic principle.

- I have no qualms about looking at Wahhabi/Salafi through a much more stringent lens. But, even those who don't identify as those particular sects, look at the percentages that favor Sharia Law. That are in favor, in certain situations, of honor killings. Hell, even in the US, over 25% of Muslims Polled (in all fairness, I can't find the link but if I remember it wasn't a huge polling sample) believed that it was JUSTIFIED to inflict harm on someone how offended Islam. I think it was over half of them that believed they should be allowed Sharia courts instead of our own court system. If you want to argue that you can't see the inherent evil in some of the ideals with this system, that's fine, but if you can, you can see where the issue with values may just happen to come into play.

- There is a rather substantial difference in our Refugee vs Immigration policies. I'm assuming you're using the words interchangeably, but they are different. My guess is the policies that let the doctor and teacher in aren't the same one the guy from Syria is going to see.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

So it wasn't an old Jewish grandmother who was anti Christian and wanted to destroy Christmas market?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Are we sure it wasn't an elderly couple looking for Country Kitchen Buffet?