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Pops Freshenmeyer

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amazing how we’re just supposed to accept that low level P5 and G5 teams are more or less farm systems going forward. Just sucks for those schools.
They might do OK financially because of TV revenues but I expect attendance is just going to crater at these places.
 

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Would love to see him spurn Colorado for FSU this time. Not going to happen, even though he said he's not a lock to follow Sanders, but would like to see it.
Would probably be better for his NFL prospects to develop away from Deion's reality show cameras.
 

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Agreed. The only way you turn down mid round NFL money is if you think there is a pretty good chance you become an even higher pick. But it doesn’t even seem like he’s testing the waters. I don’t want to fall for expectation wise the Cain Madden was an All American thing.
Yeesh Cain Madden. Did he even get into an NFL camp?
 

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The Nielsen ratings. Multiple regular season games broke prior records, with Mich vs OSU I believe being all time or top 5 including playoffs.




Games this season are getting a double bump though from continued COVID rebound, and abundance of legal sports gambling.



I tend to agree with the original post. This sport succeeds in spite of itself, but success/popularity isn’t forever, and last I checked Minor League Baseball and Basketball aren’t exactly growing in popularity.

College Football is the only sport I watch that has (mostly) survived having kids (Goodbye NFL & Baseball; hellos F1 and EPL)

Time commitment to games was my biggest factor.
 

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The Nielsen ratings. Multiple regular season games broke prior records, with Mich vs OSU I believe being all time or top 5 including playoffs.




Games this season are getting a double bump though from continued COVID rebound, and abundance of legal sports gambling.



I tend to agree with the original post. This sport succeeds in spite of itself, but success/popularity isn’t forever, and last I checked Minor League Baseball and Basketball aren’t exactly growing in popularity.

College Football is the only sport I watch that has (mostly) survived having kids (Goodbye NFL & Baseball; hellos F1 and EPL)

Time commitment to games was my biggest factor.

i think some new teams being good aided in renewal of dead rivalries as well.
 

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CFB ratings have been in a long decline. The highest since Covid is a far cry from the highest ever.



1) I was wrong on OSU-Mich relative to playoffs, but it was still a reg season record

2) that data seems to be only the NCG which has a lot of things working against it vs prior New Years Day tie-ups

3) that data is flat, with spikes around the most compelling storylines hard to see a trend

4) spent a bunch of time on that sports media data, and it’s not well laid out for comparing regular seasons over time, so I’m more unsure about direction of travel for absolute ratings.

5) the increasing notional value of media rights lends credence to increasing popularity, but I admit that I have not found the data that I thought was there
 

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I probably sound like a sore loser, but i really wouldn't want to root for a team of mercenaries every year. Program building and player development is one of the best parts about CFB.
That and watching a kid develop for 3-4 years builds something of a relationship for the fans.
 

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At what point does this hurt recruiting for them? If you're plucking the best offensive weapons in the portal every year, how do you sell a kid in high school on being the next guy?
Sounds like already. They processing all but high four stars off their comit list for roster spots for transfers
 

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A buddy of mine is a high school basketball coach, and he has a kid going to a mid major D1 program next year. The head coach came by to visit the kid in class the other day and they were chatting about the portal. The coach at the D1 program told him the portal has completely changed the way they recruit in a way I didn't even consider.

He tells the kids he recruits who are a bit raw but have the measurables/athleticism to play P5 ball that he will coach them up so they can transfer into a P5 program after a year or two. Basically, these lower level D1 schools are now JUCOs.
 

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A buddy of mine is a high school basketball coach, and he has a kid going to a mid major D1 program next year. The head coach came by to visit the kid in class the other day and they were chatting about the portal. The coach at the D1 program told him the portal has completely changed the way they recruit in a way I didn't even consider.

He tells the kids he recruits who are a bit raw but have the measurables/athleticism to play P5 ball that he will coach them up so they can transfer into a P5 program after a year or two. Basically, these lower level D1 schools are now JUCOs.
I get that for basketball where D1 is enormous. I even get it for G5 schools offering kids with eyes on the P5. But when proud mid-level Power 5 programs like Arizona and Pittsburgh and Indiana are watching their best players get repeatedly bought off by like 20 big-time schools, it's bad for the sport.
After a few years of this their fans will lose interest - for the same reason no one really cares about minor league baseball - and migrate to the NFL or whatever. And the 20 teams that still matter only have so many fans. Ratings will drop for real, and...
 

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At what point does this hurt recruiting for them? If you're plucking the best offensive weapons in the portal every year, how do you sell a kid in high school on being the next guy?
I don’t think they care. It’s like trading prospects for established major leaguers. If the prospect really develops he could end up as good as the major leaguer you just got so don’t clutch prospects too tight.

There’s no limit on transfers so they will just reload with proven players every year.
 

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I get that for basketball where D1 is enormous. I even get it for G5 schools offering kids with eyes on the P5. But when proud mid-level Power 5 programs like Arizona and Pittsburgh and Indiana are watching their best players get repeatedly bought off by like 20 big-time schools, it's bad for the sport.
After a few years of this their fans will lose interest - for the same reason no one really cares about minor league baseball - and migrate to the NFL or whatever. And the 20 teams that still matter only have so many fans. Ratings will drop for real, and...
Totally agree.
 

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Is this true? From Dec 6.


131 teams x 85 scholly players = 11,135.

Why does he say 13,000? Is he counting walk-ons? Or are there/were there still temporary exceptions for scholarship limits due to COVID? I thought that had ended.
 

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Walk ons would be players.
Thought I read - on this very website! - that a lot of lesser-known guys in the portal are walk-ons trying to get a scholarship somewhere. Which would make sense, especially if they’re willing to go down the food chain a notch or two.
 
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