The Pete Bevacqua Thread

[ulukinatme]

Frankly, you don't go to the big ten. You go to the big 12 and start talking about a deal, then have Bevaqua hit up his buddies at NBC and CBS talking about how terrible the big ten deal is turning out for them with Fox getting all the good games and have them put the pressure on the big ten to get an ND deal so they get a few more decent games a year.

Na, fuck that. Big 12 most years is weaker than the ACC. Since Oklahoma and Texas left the Big 12 their most recent national champion was new member BYU and that was 1984! Big 12 won the head to head games against the ACC this year, but the "top" of the ACC would normally take it to the top of the "Big" 12 most years I think. Texas Tech may be a new outlier, will be interesting to see if they hold up against the truly elite in the playoff.

No, B1G or SEC is the way to go if we get forced into a conference. B1G is preferable, regularly playing a bunch of games in the South from Aug-early October could be hard from a heat perspective on our guys when they're not in that climate regularly. B1G/SEC are getting 4-5 teams in a year. Big 12 and ACC are getting one and that's about it any given year. Easier path going Big 12? Probably, but the money isn't there and the games would suck.

 

[Irish8248]

There was a lot of Miami and Alabama noise Saturday leading into those games. A lot. Jesse Palmer was broadcasting Tech and BYU but wouldn't shut up about Miami.

Saban was talking up Miami and Bama Saturday morning. People want him to be Commissioner of College Football.

They probably lost the PR battle in the end, which is probably more important than the merit of their season. H2H had little to do with all of this in the end. Miami was ranked behind ND for weeks. Then suddenly when it counted they weren't.

Have to have a closer.

This is the real issue.. when you have a process that allows biased ppl tied to confs who benefit from having 1- their team in 2- their member team in and 3 - their rival conf/team out, then no partnership with any other conf will prevent what happened. If we are on the cusp, no matter the circumstance, advanced stats, or PR blitz, we will be tossed to the curb.

Hypothetical --

2025 happens all over again. All the same game results in the same manner. All the same committee meetings, conversations, and horse trading. EXCEPT there's no publicity, no reveal show prior to final selection. No Hunter Cukadick bumbling through broken logic.

Does ND somehow get in? No. Because the error is in the selection process not partnership.

Automatic bids tied to confs is also the problem. A pre planned playoff field isn't how you get the x best teams.

 

[ND87]

Or, you know.... the staff has the guys ready to go from the start and we don't lose 2 games.

 

[thekid33]

I know people keep saying that the B1G wouldn't give us an ACC deal.

But, I have a half-baked idea. Like, I literally put about 5 mins of thought into it. So, admittedly, it might be stupid. I'm going to toss it out there though...

What if we gave the B1G 9 guaranteed games a year (USC + 8 that rotate)?

Essentially, we are joining as a full member with the following caveats (in order to appease the % of ND fans that want to cling to the myth of our Independence):

They don't count as conference games for the B1G schools.
We are not eligible for the B1G title game.
We have no bowl game tie-in with the B1G.
Either we make the CFP or we stay home. We keep our playoff revenue like we do with the current ACC deal. However, we aren't getting a cut of the B1G title game revenue, or sharing any of their bowl revenue.

It allows us to keep Stanford (if we must) and Navy and then one additional marquee game (Clemson, Miami, etc). We also get to renew many of our traditional rivalries on a semi-regular basis.

It provides them with 9 marquee out of conference games per year helps their strength of schedule and provides their schools/cities all of the extra revenue that flows when ND comes to town. It can also allow them to negotiate a better CBS deal.

I'd even be open to accepting no higher than the 5 seed in the playoff, if that comes with an ironclad guarantee that we get in if we are ranked in the top 12 (no shenanigans to manipulate the ranking to drop us lower).

 

[drayer54]

Na, fuck that. Big 12 most years is weaker than the ACC. Since Oklahoma and Texas left the Big 12 their most recent national champion was new member BYU and that was 1984! Big 12 won the head to head games against the ACC this year, but the "top" of the ACC would normally take it to the top of the "Big" 12 most years I think. Texas Tech may be a new outlier, will be interesting to see if they hold up against the truly elite in the playoff.

No, B1G or SEC is the way to go if we get forced into a conference. B1G is preferable, regularly playing a bunch of games in the South from Aug-early October could be hard from a heat perspective on our guys when they're not in that climate regularly. B1G/SEC are getting 4-5 teams in a year. Big 12 and ACC are getting one and that's about it any given year. Easier path going Big 12? Probably, but the money isn't there and the games would suck.

Nothing like running the gauntlet of K State and Kansas after a showdown with OSU. Agree- BIG 12, while interesting in basketball, isn’t the great move.

 

[allenm5333]

Nothing like running the gauntlet of K State and Kansas after a showdown with OSU. Agree- BIG 12, while interesting in basketball, isn’t the great move.

But is it worse than the ACC? K State, Utah, Zona, Zona State, Houston, TCU, Cincy, Baylor, UCF, Tech, and BYU may not have the recent ceilings of Clemson or FSU. However, better than the floor and bad of the ACC

 

[Henges24]

Don’t hate a Big 12 move. Sure ND gets called weak for joining it but it’s the least established conference at the moment.
Michigan / OSU own the B1G whereas Alabama/LSU own the SEC.
USC and the west coast B1G teams could move over, or a team like Vandy that may feel disrespected by the SEC.
Stanford / SMU could leave the ACC upon diminishing.
The current landscape of the Big 12 isn’t exactly appealing but I wouldn’t think it’s a finished product if ND were to join.
ND would be looking for a spot at the head table rather than be an onlooking sheep.

 

[GowerND11]

I know people keep saying that the B1G wouldn't give us an ACC deal.

But, I have a half-baked idea. Like, I literally put about 5 mins of thought into it. So, admittedly, it might be stupid. I'm going to toss it out there though...

What if we gave the B1G 9 guaranteed games a year (USC + 8 that rotate)?

Essentially, we are joining as a full member with the following caveats (in order to appease the % of ND fans that want to cling to the myth of our Independence):

They don't count as conference games for the B1G schools.
We are not eligible for the B1G title game.
We have no bowl game tie-in with the B1G.
Either we make the CFP or we stay home. We keep our playoff revenue like we do with the current ACC deal. However, we aren't getting a cut of the B1G title game revenue, or sharing any of their bowl revenue.

It allows us to keep Stanford (if we must) and Navy and then one additional marquee game (Clemson, Miami, etc). We also get to renew many of our traditional rivalries on a semi-regular basis.

It provides them with 9 marquee out of conference games per year helps their strength of schedule and provides their schools/cities all of the extra revenue that flows when ND comes to town. It can also allow them to negotiate a better CBS deal.

I'd even be open to accepting no higher than the 5 seed in the playoff, if that comes with an ironclad guarantee that we get in if we are ranked in the top 12 (no shenanigans to manipulate the ranking to drop us lower).

The B1G hates us, always has. It has served as a conference FOR Michigan and OSU for most all of its existence. If we were to do that, they would 100% corrupt that rotation. I mean, whatever, play the games you know? But I'm sure that first year in this system you would see a schedule of these teams:

Michigan, OSU, Oregon, Washington, PSU, Iowa, USC, Illinois, and then Purdue as a bone thrown. Then throw in the home and away/travel of it all. The B1G would absolutely want to try and send us a message.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

From a recruiting standpoint, B1G offers no incentive. We already have a footprint in the Midwest.

The B12 offers a solid footprint in Texas.


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[thekid33]

The B1G hates us, always has. It has served as a conference FOR Michigan and OSU for most all of its existence. If we were to do that, they would 100% corrupt that rotation. I mean, whatever, play the games you know? But I'm sure that first year in this system you would see a schedule of these teams:

Michigan, OSU, Oregon, Washington, PSU, Iowa, USC, Illinois, and then Purdue as a bone thrown. Then throw in the home and away/travel of it all. The B1G would absolutely want to try and send us a message.

Fair points - you would need some sort of fine print that the rotation can only include any 2 of those teams in a given year.

 

[jpachuta33]

Is the presser at noon today?

Any solid info to what it’s about?

 

[irishnd31]

Is the presser at noon today?

Any solid info to what it’s about?

Only person that knows started his self imposed, honor your bet 2 months hiatus yesterday

 

[Irish8248]

Didn't the BIG burn quite a few bridges when they thought they had us by the balls during COVID? Then we said fuck you and saved college football

 

[pumpdog20]

From a recruiting standpoint, B1G offers no incentive. We already have a footprint in the Midwest.

The B12 offers a solid footprint in Texas.


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You bring GT with you.

Then you have the MW, Cali, Georgia, DMV areas. Then you rotate years playing non con with a florida and texas school and all basis are covered, IMO.

 

[Pete]

Is the presser at noon today?

Any solid info to what it’s about?

My guess is it’s just the standard of the season presser. I wouldn’t expect any fire and brimstone.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Basically said they're not looking to leave the ACC is how I took his comments from this, but who knows.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[thekid33]

This is probably going to be the Al Capone's vault of press conferences - but I hope I am wrong.

 

[arrowryan]

Basically said they're not looking to leave the ACC is how I took his comments from this, but who knows.

My biggest takeaway is that a Freeman extension is basically guaranteed

 

[2013Irish]

Hearing the AD say he feels worse with each passing day means that we're all going to be Jon Favreau in Swingers in due time.

 

[Irish8248]

My guess is it’s just the standard of the season presser. I wouldn’t expect any fire and brimstone.

When did JS give end of year press conf before the HC? Did he ever give a PC to recap a season?

 

[NDpendent]

Basically said they're not looking to leave the ACC is how I took his comments from this, but who knows.

I don't think that was said or implied at all. He pretty much said they arent talking about it yet.

What he did say was that the decision the conference made did not sit well with ND and said the ACC cant think there wont be consequences and repercussions on how the university feels about the conference. He then said that it not only didnt sit well with him but people much higher and more important at Notre Dame then him.

I think its going to happen, just wont be immediately. Definitely nothing today

 

[ColinKSU]

This is probably going to be the Al Capone's vault of press conferences - but I hope I am wrong.

I started out by saying this presser is about all ND sports, which kinda readjusts expectations.

 

[NDpendent]

nothing burger today, just repeated the same talking tracks he said the past couple days.

 

[ab2cmiller]

nothing burger today, just repeated the same talking tracks he said the past couple days.

I was assured by a banned (supposed to be banned) member that an extension would be announced today. I demand satisfaction

 

[#1rish]

What a pointless press conference lol

 

[Huntr]

This presser could have been an email

 

[hungryhippo]

tf was the point of this conference

 

[bumpdaddy]

Listening live like a lot of you, but I already think he dropped the ball when he said, "Alabama deserves to be in," as well as ND and Miami.

Note to Pete: There's NO point in stating you are upset if you can't point directly to who we should be in ahead of and what specifically was wrong with the process. All 3 of ND, Miami, Bama could not be in. If you are going to comment on it, which you should, you need to state who should have been left out and why.

 

[NDPhilly]

Did he just imply Father Dowd wants out of the ACC lol?